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post #2971 of 3577
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Never was available in Gaming mode.
On my set they are unavailable in every mode. I was stating they are missing all together. I have User(de-judder only), Smooth, and Clear (no Clear plus), the local Sears that has had the set since launch and never online updated it still has the feature.
post #2972 of 3577
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Generally, it's hard to say Plasma does not overall give a better picture. That's not the same as saying Plasma is better. Each has it's flaws and good points. But read most any site that tests and evaluates TV's and rarely does an LCD make the list of best.
That said, for alot of people with rooms that are not normally darker, an LCD can easily be a better choice. It's also much lighter, and while Plasmas are much better about burn in than in the past, it does still exist. Further, Plasmas which are already generally not as bright, lose brightness over just a few years, and may need re-calibrating where an LCD usually remains more constant longer.
Plasma has no real blur problems, LCD's can though I find the 7600 has greatly improved on that over my older LG.
There's other things to consider also......

As for HDMI cables, I can't say there is no difference, but overall there isn't. The more expensive ones may be made better in some cases, so might last longer. A recent report by Solid Signal suggest the much more expensive ones changed channels 1/4 second faster than the cheapest ones. Certainly not significant, but I am not a gamer, I don't know if that makes any real difference to playing games or if changing channels "faster" translates into anything being faster for games. Don't forget we can be talking hundreds of dollars difference in price.

I'd like to see that link that made that claim. I'm betting he wasn't an engineer.
post #2973 of 3577
Does our TV support Miracast? if not, do you think LG would release firmware to support it?
post #2974 of 3577
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

On my set they are unavailable in every mode. I was stating they are missing all together. I have User(de-judder only), Smooth, and Clear (no Clear plus), the local Sears that has had the set since launch and never online updated it still has the feature.

Some settings are dependent on input - are you using HDMI, is it 1080I, etc.... Think if anything is different now than the last time you checked because updates have not changed those settings.
post #2975 of 3577
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

I'd like to see that link that made that claim. I'm betting he wasn't an engineer.

Which claim - about the cables? I gave where to see it, Solid Signal......
I went back and did the research for you, here it is;

http://forums.solidsignal.com/content.php/1479-HT-Guys-confirm-it-cheap-HDMI-cables-are-just-fine
post #2976 of 3577
I'm revisiting this since I have some updates since the last time.

To recap, it seems like my LM7600's network connectivity (both wired and wireless) is gone altogether.

It was was working fine until say a month ago, but now when the TV starts up, if I go to Home, I see a "Connecting network" notice at the top right next to the buttons, and it's there for a while, but it doesn't connect. After a while, the notice is replaced by an "no connection" icon.

If I go to "Network Connection", I'm sent to the screen that shows the instructions to connect to a wired or wireless network, but when I click "Start Connection", it just shows a screen that says "To connect to the network, check the connection status of LAN cable or AP.", with "Try again" as the only option. When clicked, that button takes me to the previous "To connect to the network" screen.
It never gets to the point when it tries to detect SSIDs or let you enter one to use a hidden network.

Going to "Network Status" takes me straight to the second screen described before.

I tried starting the TV with an Ethernet cable connected, but it doesn't make any difference.

Since the TV starts up with "connecting to network", I suspect there's some persistent network configuration it's trying to use.
I have hopes of finding something that will "deep reset" the TV and make it let go of that. Service menus maybe?

The TV is working perfectly in all other aspects.

Things I've tried:
- Performing an "Initial Setting" restore from the TV's menu.
- Unplugging the TV while on, then holding the Power button for 30 seconds while the TV was unplugged (this was instructed by an LG representative).
- Waiting for the next firmware update and applying it over USB, which I hoped would perform a "deeper" reset.

Needless to say, nothing has helped.

At this point I'm considering buying a new mainboard from eBay and swapping it myself, but I'd very much like to avoid that. :/

Any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
post #2977 of 3577
Go to the menu, find the language settings, it should say English. Just toggle to Spanish or whatever the next language is, then toggle back. TV should indicate after a moment or two that language has been reset.

See if that fixes it.

I am assuming you haven't changed anything in the Service menu that could cause this.....
post #2978 of 3577
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

I'd like to see that link that made that claim. I'm betting he wasn't an engineer.

Which claim - about the cables? I gave where to see it, Solid Signal......
I went back and did the research for you, here it is;

http://forums.solidsignal.com/content.php/1479-HT-Guys-confirm-it-cheap-HDMI-cables-are-just-fine

I did go to solidsignal.com, but the search for "1/4 second" yielded nothing. Also, I could find no link for a forum (where is it?), and you said it was a report by them, not the HT guys in a podcast. So I thought it was someplace else.

As for what it might be referring to, I can only guess---but from a line discipline standpoint it makes no fundamental sense unless the cable is out of spec for what they were attempting---which is basically nothing: changing channels. When I google the problem in the abstract, the links come up dry except for the HT guys podcast. I started to listen to the podcast itself but didn't want to spend the time listening to the entire thing so punted quickly.

I'll look again for an engineering analysis in the future on that, because I'd really like to know just WTF they're measuring there.
post #2979 of 3577
I have a problem , I was excited on getting my LG 55lm7600 yesterday, nice TV indeed.
I have several original 3D Blu-ray's and 3D works.

1. My 3D player in a Samsung BD-C6900, when I stream from my external usb hard drive which I downloaded 3D Blu-ray movies (Side by Side Encode Format) NO 3D ? Just see Double Image with glasses.
2. I try watching a 3D movies from VUDU and NO 3D ?

Do I need a better 3D Blu-ray player?
My AVR is a Onkyo TX-NR709 all HDMI 1.4a Cables

Thanks
post #2980 of 3577
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Originally Posted by EaglePC View Post

I have a problem , I was excited on getting my LG 55lm7600 yesterday, nice TV indeed.
I have several original 3D Blu-ray's and 3D works.

1. My 3D player in a Samsung BD-C6900, when I stream from my external usb hard drive which I downloaded 3D Blu-ray movies (Side by Side Encode Format) NO 3D ? Just see Double Image with glasses.
2. I try watching a 3D movies from VUDU and NO 3D ?

Do I need a better 3D Blu-ray player?
My AVR is a Onkyo TX-NR709 all HDMI 1.4a Cables

Thanks
Have you tried going into to the 3D picture adjustment menu on the 7600 and picking the type of 3D being used? Simply hit the 3D button on the magic remote and it will bring up the menu.
It may be as simple as selecting the supported 3D format. If that doesn't work check you Samsung and see if it has a way to format the 3D displayed as well.
post #2981 of 3577
I can address VUDU - I do get 3D, automatically when watching a 3D movie from there when using the app from the TV. (Have watched two)

When you stream from the USB, (I have not tried to yet) you may have to actually pick to watch 3D and then pick side by side? I don't know that the passive system will automatically show a side by side encoded movie unless you manually pick it. Others may have a better answer.
post #2982 of 3577
Thanks Dr.Shankenstein & tampa8

Works NOW!

This is the best TV I ever owned

so far LOL

one other question I calibrated my tv and in 3D I don't have those settings I saved
do I have to calibrate each 2d and 3d ?
post #2983 of 3577
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

I did go to solidsignal.com, but the search for "1/4 second" yielded nothing. Also, I could find no link for a forum (where is it?), and you said it was a report by them, not the HT guys in a podcast. So I thought it was someplace else.

As for what it might be referring to, I can only guess---but from a line discipline standpoint it makes no fundamental sense unless the cable is out of spec for what they were attempting---which is basically nothing: changing channels. When I google the problem in the abstract, the links come up dry except for the HT guys podcast. I started to listen to the podcast itself but didn't want to spend the time listening to the entire thing so punted quickly.

I'll look again for an engineering analysis in the future on that, because I'd really like to know just WTF they're measuring there.

Solid Signal did indeed report it, HT guys did the study. To report does not mean to be the one who did the research... smile.gif And I did jump ahead to it and listen. I don't believe this one exercise proves anything, but that's not the point. What I posted was what exists.
post #2984 of 3577
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Originally Posted by EaglePC View Post

Thanks Dr.Shankenstein & tampa8

Works NOW!

This is the best TV I ever owned

so far LOL

one other question I calibrated my tv and in 3D I don't have those settings I saved
do I have to calibrate each 2d and 3d ?
I haven't tried 3D on the set, but from what I have heard from others on this generation LG and most sets is there is 3D calibration settings needed as well.
post #2985 of 3577
Have owned the 7600 for a week 1 1/2 best choice I could have ever made very happy!!!

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Got it home before unboxing!!!

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After unboxing and set up watching ESPN!!!biggrin.gif
post #2986 of 3577
DomoKnowsTech Nice

Whats your settings , like to share:)

thanks

post #2987 of 3577
A week in and still loving this set. I will be trying out a few movies today 2D and 3D, looking forward to some Prometheus and How to train your dragon.
post #2988 of 3577
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

A week in and still loving this set. I will be trying out a few movies today 2D and 3D, looking forward to some Prometheus and How to train your dragon.

Threads so often fill with negatives, because of the nature of trying to solve a problem. So it's important to have positive feedback like yours.
post #2989 of 3577
*Disclaimer: These results might vary from panel to panel, so I will not be sharing settings....besides some basic stuff.

Here's my update after having this TV for a few days,

First, I'm directly comparing this panel to my Samsung PN58C8000. (I game and calibrate way too much, so I wanted to get something that I don't have to worry about IR or burn in with.)
If you're interested in the gear I used for the calibration, and testing process.....here's my site: primarycalibration.com(click on the "Gear" tab)

Pros:
Panel uniformity.(I used 100% color, and grayscale patterns to test)

The colors of the TV are are pretty great out of the box. (I only needed to adjust the main color slider a few clicks, to get most of the colors to fall below dE of 3 or less. The only color that was above 3 was green.....which most reviews out there show.)

Motion (I turned off all the processing, and it still held its own against my plasma. In scenes with a lot of movement and action, it would struggle a little, but that's to be expected.)

Gaming, has great motion, with little to no smearing. (The input lag on this set is pretty good. I have a BenQXL2410T, that has an input lag of less than 10ms. This TV has been tested to have about 34ms of input lag, I would agree with this number. This TV does have a small amount more lag than my plasma, but not enough to complain about.) Here's a great source LINK (Thanks to FourWude, one the members on this site)

Aesthetics (I really like that LG went with the small bezel on this model. The stand is also quite nice, but if you mount this TV, it won't matter.)

Cons:

Flashlighting (I have some flashlighting along the top and left side of the panel. Most LED edge-lit sets will have some, but this set seems to have some issues with this.)

Black level (In direct comparison with my plasma, it's very noticeable. The LG's overall picture looks a little washed out. If I didn't have the direct comparison, I probably wouldn't notice as much.)

Viewing angles (There is definitely a small "sweet spot" for this TV. Again if I didn't have the plasma, I might not notice as much, but it's definitely there.)



I still might return this TV because of the flashlighting, but haven't decided yet. If it didn't have the flashlighting, I'd keep it, and just deal with the black level and viewing angles.
post #2990 of 3577
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Originally Posted by ElectronicTonic View Post

*Disclaimer: These results might vary from panel to panel, so I will not be sharing settings....besides some basic stuff.

......................

Cons:

Flashlighting (I have some flashlighting along the top and left side of the panel. Most LED edge-lit sets will have some, but this set seems to have some issues with this.)

Black level (In direct comparison with my plasma, it's very noticeable. The LG's overall picture looks a little washed out. If I didn't have the direct comparison, I probably wouldn't notice as much.)

Viewing angles (There is definitely a small "sweet spot" for this TV. Again if I didn't have the plasma, I might not notice as much, but it's definitely there.)



I still might return this TV because of the flashlighting, but haven't decided yet. If it didn't have the flashlighting, I'd keep it, and just deal with the black level and viewing angles.

Hi-

I've gone from Panny Plasma to Samsung LCD to this set. In terms of the picture looking a little washed out, of the top my head the settings that will affect that the most/best are Brightness, contrast, backlighting, gamma. Apologize if those terms aren't correct in the tvs settings, been a couple weeks since I tweaked mine. But a few changes with those settings can make a big difference.

In terms of viewing angle, nothing will match plasma. But I sought this LCD out because its probably as good as it gets for an LCD in the price range. The samsung I had was definitly worse. Just to put things in perspective.
post #2991 of 3577
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Originally Posted by kevreh View Post

Hi-

I've gone from Panny Plasma to Samsung LCD to this set. In terms of the picture looking a little washed out, of the top my head the settings that will affect that the most/best are Brightness, contrast, backlighting, gamma. Apologize if those terms aren't correct in the tvs settings, been a couple weeks since I tweaked mine. But a few changes with those settings can make a big difference.

In terms of viewing angle, nothing will match plasma. But I sought this LCD out because its probably as good as it gets for an LCD in the price range. The samsung I had was definitly worse. Just to put things in perspective.

I've done a full calibration using professional equipment. I also have a Lumagen XS in the chain. The washed out effect that I'm describing can't be fixed with gamma or any other means. It has to do with the panels ability to display 100% black. Which in this case is a lot brighter than my current plasma.(even with "local dimming" engaged)

All that aside,
I agree for the price, the performance is quite good. (Only problem is the flashlighting)
Edited by ElectronicTonic - 2/27/13 at 1:18pm
post #2992 of 3577
Very fair analysis. Blacks of an LCD just can't match a Plasma. And I have posted before I find the Samsung LCD's to have a little better blacks than LG, let alone plasmas. That said, on it's own it produces a very good picture overall, in the store side by side to other LCD's it easily held it's own, again judging the overall picture.
post #2993 of 3577
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Very fair analysis. Blacks of an LCD just can't match a Plasma. And I have posted before I find the Samsung LCD's to have a little better blacks than LG, let alone plasmas. That said, on it's own it produces a very good picture overall, in the store side by side to other LCD's it easily held it's own, again judging the overall picture.

The HX950s blacks exceed even the mighty VT50, so dont be so quick to write off black levels on all LCDs. cool.gif
post #2994 of 3577
Well, I just crossed the 30 day return period today.

I got my 47LM7600 for $849 at BB after they price matched Fry's. I have to say, I don't think I could do any better for my viewing habits at this price, or even higher. I primarily watch cable HDTV and game, although I do watch Blu Rays as well.

I had no idea what the input lag on the panel would be, but figured it was good since this is a modern television. Really glad to see it's in the 34/35ms area. And wow, I can't believe some of those other sets have input lag that's much higher! Very surprising.

It seems like, even going into 2013, there is still no "perfect" television. Some are better than others for gaming, or for movie watching, or for watching live sports, etc. The 7600 seems to be an amazing "overall" choice for people who do a bit of everything.

The only complaint I have is the flashlighting, but that's not even so bad. It's pretty visible in the upper right, but I'll be damned if I can see it on any other corner. What's really weird though, is that sometimes I can see it very visibly, and other times I can't see it at all. No change to settings or source or even ambient lighting. You would think that would be a constant if nothing else changes.

But even if the flashlighting was in more than one corner, I would still be happy for the price I paid. Especially since this model is in the upper end of LG's offerings for 2012.
post #2995 of 3577
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

The HX950s blacks exceed even the mighty VT50, so dont be so quick to write off black levels on all LCDs. cool.gif

You are seriously going to pick one of maybe two or three LCD's that does,all at a very high cost, something like $4,700 to 5,200 price? And according to reviews does not come with any 3D glasses? (Increasing the cost more) rolleyes.gif My comments stand 100%, for virtually all LCD's or ones most anyone is going to buy. There are always an exception to most anything, but you would be very misleading to tell people LCD's have better or as good blacks levels than Plasmas.
The CNET review goes on to say they only recommend it if you do not want Plasma. Yes it has what appears to be a very good picture, but it better at that price.
Edited by tampa8 - 2/28/13 at 7:49am
post #2996 of 3577
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Originally Posted by roach View Post

You need to gently press the screen in the lower right and left corners of your tv. you will feel a little snap but it will fix the clouding in the corners and greatly improve your picture.

Please just remove this post outright. It is a confusion with the 60LM7200 and it'll cause someone trouble eventually.
post #2997 of 3577
New LG 55 LM 7600 all setup. Put in the CNET settings and it looks amazing. 3D ESPN looks good. Once I figured out the setup on my Yamaha receiver all is good. Will post photos soon. Got flu.tongue.gif
post #2998 of 3577
Question anyone has the Onkyo TX-NR709 AVR with this 55LM7600 ? Turning off the video processor from custom to direct shows better 3D .

Also what is 3D depth & 3D Viewpoint in 3D settings? they seem to do nothing.
post #2999 of 3577
Noticed while playing netflix on my iphone 5 that it prompts me to play it on either my LG TV (if TV is on) or on the iphone, didn't saw this before.

if I select TV then it launches netflix on LG TV and play the movie, I can then select audio enable/disable subtitles.
post #3000 of 3577
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Originally Posted by Richard Perkins View Post

New LG 55 LM 7600 all setup. Put in the CNET settings and it looks amazing. 3D ESPN looks good. Once I figured out the setup on my Yamaha receiver all is good. Will post photos soon. Got flu.tongue.gif

Those settings are excellent. That's the "new TV" flu?
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