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post #31 of 3924
The soundbar only connects with the included optical cable. I may try using hdmi 2 and 3 to see if that evens out volume
post #32 of 3924
Had an LG rep show me his 3d demo on this tv tonight in Best Buy, he put in his own tweaks and showed me the 3d he had on his thumb drive. WOW. Blows the 3d examples away at best buy on their demo setups.

He also showed me the dual screen with video games so two people can have full screens with separate consoles with the glasses that have two left lenses and two right lenses. It was very impressive. First time I've seen that on a bigger screen.

super impressed by the tv that's for sure. It's just 2299... and wife complaining comes in about that (especially since we bought a 60" 3d panny st30 plasma for $1100 that arrived shattered from amazon, since returned but thats her argument.), but she just don't get it
post #33 of 3924
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

Had an LG rep show me his 3d demo on this tv tonight in Best Buy, he put in his own tweaks and showed me the 3d he had on his thumb drive. WOW. Blows the 3d examples away at best buy on their demo setups.

He also showed me the dual screen with video games so two people can have full screens with separate consoles with the glasses that have two left lenses and two right lenses. It was very impressive. First time I've seen that on a bigger screen.

super impressed by the tv that's for sure. It's just 2299... and wife complaining comes in about that (especially since we bought a 60" 3d panny st30 plasma for $1100 that arrived shattered from amazon, since returned but thats her argument.), but she just don't get it

But did the 3D look better than a Samsung, Sony etc using shutter glasses? I thought they were coming out with passive Full HD1080p 3D this year?
post #34 of 3924
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

But did the 3D look better than a Samsung, Sony etc using shutter glasses? I thought they were coming out with passive Full HD1080p 3D this year?

As far as I know these new LG's are passive FULL HD1080 3D
post #35 of 3924
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Originally Posted by elykoj View Post

As far as I know these new LG's are passive FULL HD1080 3D

I see Full HD 1080p listed in the specs wherever I check for this set, but it's never in the 3D spec section. That's why I'm asking...You would think if this were the first set to be passive Full HD 3D, they would brag about it a lil bit.
post #36 of 3924
all I can say is the quality on the 3d was quite amazing with his personal filled thumbdrive of 3d content. He cranked the depth up to 20 and a plane literally came out of the screen like 6-8ft. It was great, some of best 3d I've seen on a tv.

It's why i'm drooling over this tv with it's picture quality 2d and picture quality in 3d, and I'm a plasma/projector fan(the led bleeding is not my thing) but it was a damn impressive tv in my opinion and possibly that the "LED +" tech which is nothing but local dimmer maybe had a lot to do with it. The colors and whites and blacks destroyed the 60" 3d sony it was sitting beside.
post #37 of 3924
Has anyone used this set for gaming? Any issues with input lag?
post #38 of 3924
I'm definitely going to need to ir codes for the sound bar...too many remotes!
post #39 of 3924
Thread Starter 
Darnit!!! I went to finally set my tv up this morning and my AT&T Uverse DVR took a ****. After about an hour on the Phone with tech support they will be sending me a new one on Tuesday. 3 more days now. Gggrrrr
post #40 of 3924
I'm going to comment on the 3D of this TV. I'm not going to claim that I know what I'm talking about since I've only owned my 3D Sammy for a week now. I will say that I saw the 3D demos of this TV @ Best Buy earlier and I was not impressed. Yes, the demo made objects fly off the screen but it's a demo & is meant to do that. The 540p per eye really showed that passive is NOT in the same league as active shutter IMO. The sharpness & clarity I've been accustomed to over this past week was gone while viewing 3D on this set. My honest opinion is that if you want a "theater" like experience, then passive is the choice. If you want quality 3D on a whole other level, you should look at active shutter tech.
I'm not bashing the TV as a whole because I'm not an expert. I'm simply commenting on my experience viewing 3D. I was considering this set but it felt like a step backwards. Just saying....
post #41 of 3924
Picked up the 55LM7600 yesterday. Coming from a 2009 58" Samsung plasma. Very happy with it overall. Here are my first observations:

- Picture quality is fantastic, the screen looks very consistent

- Noticed a bit of light bleed from the bottom left corner, only when the main LG menu is up. I'm not sure if local dimming is disabled when in the main menu, it certainly appears that way, because as soon as I go back to full screen, the blacks look consistent and even.

- The passive 3d is pretty impressive. I'm a cg supervisor on a 3d feature and spend many hours a day viewing shots projected via RealD on a silver screen, so hopefully my opinion is somewhat qualified. The 3d demos, whether at Best Buy or via the 3d World app are terrible due to their attempt at creating "eye-popping" 3d. These demos rarely have the stereo "comfort" consideration that goes into most modern stereoscopic films. While super-wide, jumping off the screen 3d doesn't seem to hold up well on the passive screen, comfortable 3d aligned behind the screen looks very good. There's a slight bit of ghosting on really high-contrast scenes. Watched a bit of TinTin in 3d and it looked really spectacular.

- The apps and SmartTV features all feel pretty snappy. Netflix and Hulu worked and looked good. I pulled stereo content from a Plex server via LG's Medialink, and that all worked great. Cover-art, subtitles, etc, all came through and were nicely presented. Had no problems streaming a 1080p SBS stereo demo.

- The magic remote is what it is. With the amount of information on the screen in the menu's and apps, there are cases where it's definitely handy to have a mouse-like function, but I'll be looking to program my Logitech remote for most of the main functions.

- The actual look and design of the tv is incredibly nice, stunning really. Major credit to the designers for their simple yet elegant design.

- The screen reflectivity is noticeable, but didn't seem problematic. It's not pure glossy, there's some softness to the reflection. Seemed a bit more reflective than the Samsung's in-store, but wasn't at all distracting.

- Streamed 3d over wireless HDMI from my PC using IoGear's whdi device. I haven't had a chance to fire up any games yet, but I will tonight. The nvidia stereoscopic setup had no problems recognizing it as a 3d device (although I suppose it was recognizing the IoGear device rather than the TV itself) and the LG picked up the stereo signal immediately.
post #42 of 3924
I agree the 3d is not in your face,but I was told it was content. I swear at bb there was a demo ON THIS SET where a barracuda or grouper slowly turned and thought it was going to brush my nose. But on mine I've watched tangled, bolt, and every 3d demo and can't get that effect...which makes me still believe its a setting.
I disagree about detail however, with a 3d blu ray the detail is still phenomenal...so I will need proof about 540 per eye
post #43 of 3924
finally picked one up today at BB.

Impressed with the TV. Im pretty bummed that my Pioneer Elite reciever apparantly doesnt handle 3D. I thought it just passed it through, but dont really know the tech details. I spent alot of money on a receiver to handle all the HDMI switching too

oh well will have to rig something up in the mean time.

back to the TV, as many have said its gorgeous, I was able to get a 55" in where a 52" previously fit. Screen is obviously glossier than my old Mitsu but when the picture is on, I dont notice it. so far I like the remote.

I gave up waiting for the 9600 and figured with the extra 1000 I coulda do alot else.
the soundbar is nice but just gonna sell it.

havent tried the internet capabilities, I will tonight.
post #44 of 3924
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Originally Posted by DedicatedHT View Post

I agree the 3d is not in your face,but I was told it was content. I swear at bb there was a demo ON THIS SET where a barracuda or grouper slowly turned and thought it was going to brush my nose. But on mine I've watched tangled, bolt, and every 3d demo and can't get that effect...which makes me still believe its a setting.
I disagree about detail however, with a 3d blu ray the detail is still phenomenal...so I will need proof about 540 per eye

I thought everyone knew that by now? Passive is 540 to each eye which equals 1080. Yes, LG TV's were certified last year as full 1080p 3D HD but your eyes & the specs don't lie. Active shutter glasses are full 1080p to each eye. That's just a fact
post #45 of 3924
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I'm going to comment on the 3D of this TV. I'm not going to claim that I know what I'm talking about since I've only owned my 3D Sammy for a week now. I will say that I saw the 3D demos of this TV @ Best Buy earlier and I was not impressed. Yes, the demo made objects fly off the screen but it's a demo & is meant to do that. The 540p per eye really showed that passive is NOT in the same league as active shutter IMO. The sharpness & clarity I've been accustomed to over this past week was gone while viewing 3D on this set. My honest opinion is that if you want a "theater" like experience, then passive is the choice. If you want quality 3D on a whole other level, you should look at active shutter tech.
I'm not bashing the TV as a whole because I'm not an expert. I'm simply commenting on my experience viewing 3D. I was considering this set but it felt like a step backwards. Just saying....


read my earlier post, the real 3d I've seen blows away best buys demo. Best buys demo is not even 720 or 1080p... its terrible on a dvd upscaled 3d. TERRIBLE not even ACCURATE. The 3d the REP showed off his personal thumbdrive destroys that best buy demo.
post #46 of 3924
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

read my earlier post, the real 3d I've seen blows away best buys demo. Best buys demo is not even 720 or 1080p... its terrible on a dvd upscaled 3d. TERRIBLE not even ACCURATE. The 3d the REP showed off his personal thumbdrive destroys that best buy demo.

I'm not arguing that but facts are facts when it comes to the specs. As long as you're happy with your purchase, that's all that matters in the end.
post #47 of 3924
Got the 55 inch 7600 Still learning it and adjusting but a couple of quick observations

1. 3d is MUCH improved over the first gen Samsung 3d tv we had before (nothing but problems with it and BB finally agreed to give its credit toward this set). Ww have watched Hugo and Tangled so far and the 3d was impressive.

2. WORST.REMOTE.EVER.- To a person the family hates the magic wand. Imprecise, touchy and completely non-intuitive.

Question based on number two above. Any suggestions on a 3rd party remote? The harmony we currently have doesn't have codes for this model yet
post #48 of 3924
Thread Starter 
Why is everyone complaining about the magic remote? I have cable attached to my tv so I will be using my cable remote 99% of the time anyways. What is everyone using the LG remote for all the time?
post #49 of 3924
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Originally Posted by snoguy View Post

Question based on number two above. Any suggestions on a 3rd party remote? The harmony we currently have doesn't have codes for this model yet

not sure which harmony u have, i have the cheap 300i and it works fine on my lm6700, i dont think the 7600 is all that different from the 6700
post #50 of 3924
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Originally Posted by elykoj View Post

Why is everyone complaining about the magic remote? I have cable attached to my tv so I will be using my cable remote 99% of the time anyways. What is everyone using the LG remote for all the time?

I don't have cable or satellite. We use OTA plus Netflix, hulu and Blu Ray

Have you actually tried the remote to do anything besides changing the volume?

It's hard to aim, it doesn't always recognize button presses, the interface is inconsistent, basically it just sucks.

And the harmony remote we have works only for power,volume and channel change. You can't access nay other functions with anything but the LG supplied remote (at least what I have)
post #51 of 3924
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I thought everyone knew that by now? Passive is 540 to each eye which equals 1080. Yes, LG TV's were certified last year as full 1080p 3D HD but your eyes & the specs don't lie. Active shutter glasses are full 1080p to each eye. That's just a fact

You said you have yet to see proof of Passive 1080P 3D... Have you seen the Dual Play hack for the LW series its also a full feature on the 2012 models...
the Passive works through Polarization of the image, sorta like seeing every other scan line that's why you get 540 lines per eye put together you get 1080P. Do you remember when DVD up-scaling began? do you remember it was said that 1080i = 540P or something like that, I am in no way an expert but I know that when I watch Despicable Me 3D vs. the regular BD version or the 3D ver. converted back to 2D I have not seen any loss in texture in image quality... I will say that one has to tweak settings to find their sweet spot, it took me awhile but I found it for my family and I...
I could certainly send you my settings and seating arrangements but I personally believe the real tell all is the hardware and settings....
post #52 of 3924
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Originally Posted by phillyeagles2008 View Post

You said you have yet to see proof of Passive 1080P 3D... Have you seen the Dual Play hack for the LW series its also a full feature on the 2012 models...
the Passive works through Polarization of the image, sorta like seeing every other scan line that's why you get 540 lines per eye put together you get 1080P. Do you remember when DVD up-scaling began? do you remember it was said that 1080i = 540P or something like that, I am in no way an expert but I know that when I watch Despicable Me 3D vs. the regular BD version or the 3D ver. converted back to 2D I have not seen any loss in texture in image quality... I will say that one has to tweak settings to find their sweet spot, it took me awhile but I found it for my family and I...
I could certainly send you my settings and seating arrangements but I personally believe the real tell all is the hardware and settings....

My proof was what I saw yesterday and my long convo with a Best Buy employee about this set & my Sammy D7900/8000. He's the one who said I would be "downgrading" in quality if I returned mine for this set. He's the one who said each eye is seeing 540 compared to 1080p per eye using shutter. I was under the impression that this years LG line would be full 1080p to each eye. He said no, but that it does look 10x better than last years model. He said it's a restriction of polarized glasses.
There is a HUGE difference between theater 3D and watching a BD 3D w/active shutter glasses. Anyone who has tried both would be a looney toon to disagree, honestly. lol You don't lose any quality of the Blu Ray movie in 3D while using shutter. You lose a miniscule amount of brightness but it's a trade off for amazing pq. Both techs are in different leagues IMHO.

I'm sure the 3D on this set can be tweaked to look amazing but not to the caliber of the competitors shutter tech. That's all I'm saying
post #53 of 3924
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

My proof was what I saw yesterday and my long convo with a Best Buy employee about this set & my Sammy D7900/8000. He's the one who said I would be "downgrading" in quality if I returned mine for this set. He's the one who said each eye is seeing 540 compared to 1080p per eye using shutter. I was under the impression that this years LG line would be full 1080p to each eye. He said no, but that it does look 10x better than last years model. He said it's a restriction of polarized glasses.
There is a HUGE difference between theater 3D and watching a BD 3D w/active shutter glasses. Anyone who has tried both would be a looney toon to disagree, honestly. lol You don't lose any quality of the Blu Ray movie in 3D while using shutter. You lose a miniscule amount of brightness but it's a trade off for amazing pq. Both techs are in different leagues IMHO.

I'm sure the 3D on this set can be tweaked to look amazing but not to the caliber of the competitors shutter tech. That's all I'm saying

You might find this article of interest. It discusses the differences between the active and passive technologies. The main conclusion of the article is that even though with the passive system each eye only sees 540 lines, the brain combines them to achieve the same resolution as the active tech.
Of particular interest for this discussion is the chapter "3D Imaging, Resolution and Sharpness viewing Tests"
http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm
post #54 of 3924
Has anyone figured out how to access the tru motion menu? I had it, and then lost it!
post #55 of 3924
Thanks nav, thats the study i had read but could not find!

time2, did you buy this tv? this is an owners thread and you are just here trolling to bash passive tech. I'm glad I asked for your proof because you just told everyone your credible source was a best buy employee.
post #56 of 3924
lkaufma1...settings/picture mode/picture option
post #57 of 3924
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Originally Posted by DedicatedHT View Post

Thanks nav, thats the study i had read but could not find!

time2, did you buy this tv? this is an owners thread and you are just here trolling to bash passive tech. I'm glad I asked for your proof because you just told everyone your credible source was a best buy employee.

I'm not "trolling". I went to BB to check this TV out first hand bc my boy is the manager @ PCR for 18yrs and I could return my set whenever I feel like it, for whatever set I want. I heard good things about LG's 2012 Cinema 3D & wanted to see it first hand. Prior, I had only watched 3D on Vizio's passive sets and was not impressed. All I did was make comments of my experience. I had every intent to get this TV if it were better than the Sammy I just purchased. The only reason I mentioned the BB employee is bc people THINK employees at retailers know absolutely nothing(true in most cases), as if they're not one of us on these forums. This guy is the one who brought all the tech specs to my attention while telling him I was torn between TV's.

Apologies, if I offended anyone's new TV.

P.S. I could throw up links as well. Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WcOV...eature=related And the article you posted must be old since it talks about flicker & crosstalk, which has been pretty much sorted out in the new sets.
post #58 of 3924
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I'm not "trolling". I went to BB to check this TV out first hand bc my boy is the manager @ PCR for 18yrs and I could return my set whenever I feel like it, for whatever set I want. I heard good things about LG's 2012 Cinema 3D & wanted to see it first hand. Prior, I had only watched 3D on Vizio's passive sets and was not impressed. All I did was make comments of my experience. I had every intent to get this TV if it were better than the Sammy I just purchased. The only reason I mentioned the BB employee is bc people THINK employees at retailers know absolutely nothing(true in most cases), as if they're not one of us on these forums. This guy is the one who brought all the tech specs to my attention while telling him I was torn between TV's.

Apologies, if I offended anyone's new TV.

P.S. I could throw up links as well. Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WcOV...eature=related And the article you posted must be old since it talks about flicker & crosstalk, which has been pretty much sorted out in the new sets.

Since you enjoy trolling for Samsung, CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjHKs...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b23W5PcQ2iM
post #59 of 3924
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I'm not "trolling". I went to BB to check this TV out first hand bc my boy is the manager @ PCR for 18yrs and I could return my set whenever I feel like it, for whatever set I want. I heard good things about LG's 2012 Cinema 3D & wanted to see it first hand. Prior, I had only watched 3D on Vizio's passive sets and was not impressed. All I did was make comments of my experience. I had every intent to get this TV if it were better than the Sammy I just purchased. The only reason I mentioned the BB employee is bc people THINK employees at retailers know absolutely nothing(true in most cases), as if they're not one of us on these forums. This guy is the one who brought all the tech specs to my attention while telling him I was torn between TV's.

Apologies, if I offended anyone's new TV.

P.S. I could throw up links as well. Like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WcOV...eature=related And the article you posted must be old since it talks about flicker & crosstalk, which has been pretty much sorted out in the new sets.

Yes the paper is ancient history. It was published in 2010. Not so much flicker, but crosstalk is still an issue regardless of the technology.
post #60 of 3924
pleasantly surprised so far with the 2D to 3d conversion.

some content is obviously better than others. Watching SNL on NBC's HD was incredible. It looked like high quality 3D content.
watching NCAA tourney with it on now and its pretty cool.

Even better than the Happy feet 2 3D blu-ray. That disc had (not sure if its the right term) "ghosting" where I would see polarized ghosting from each eye. thats the only disc content Ive tried. is it a setting or just poor content?
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