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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

If you want a few more picture adjustments while keeping input lag at a minimum label your input as "PC". I know that it has been talked about within this forum as well. A quick refresher on how to access is enter menu (hub), select input icon at the bottom of the screen (red icon) select whichever HDMI and it will bring up all the different labels available.
Choose "PC" or "Game" and you will have very little perceptible lag (16ms), but "PC" mode allows for activation of local dimming, custom gamma adjustment and white balance controls. If you label input as "Game" game local dimming will be disengaged.
there is LD now in game mode..
post #3032 of 3596
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Originally Posted by Leonheart View Post

there is LD now in game mode..
Awesome! They must have added it in with an update. I thought it was originally locked out.
post #3033 of 3596
Ok. I did the advanced search function. But could not come up with solution to these two issues. Maybe I am using the wrong search words.

1) I have box pixel like effect when there is a fast action on screen. i was under the impression that 240hz would take care of that.

2) I am unable to find my subscribed channels un Youtube even though I have logged in with my id.

Any help / pointers to the right thead would be appreciated.

Thanks
post #3034 of 3596
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Originally Posted by ibmab7 View Post

Ok. I did the advanced search function. But could not come up with solution to these two issues. Maybe I am using the wrong search words.

1) I have box pixel like effect when there is a fast action on screen. i was under the impression that 240hz would take care of that.

2) I am unable to find my subscribed channels un Youtube even though I have logged in with my id.

Any help / pointers to the right thead would be appreciated.

Thanks

I may be able to help with the first inquiry. The LG LM7600 employs a 120hz panel(no frame insertion) and a scanning backlight system that simulates an additional 120hz of motion performance w/black frame insertion to assist pixel response time. If you employ the tru-motion system built into the set using interpolation settings user, smooth and clear most will introduce motion artifacts that appear as small pixel around moving objects. This will often times look like on screen objects are shimmering whether it be movie, network TV or gaming. Make sure you have these settings off or on user, so you can have some level of customization in how much interpolation is used.
Edited by Dr.Shankenstein - 3/3/13 at 3:11pm
post #3035 of 3596
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Originally Posted by Leonheart View Post

thanks, going to try them, I also have a dim lighted room, what do you think of the local dimming set to high in CNET settings?

I know there are alot of posts here, this has been discussed quite extensively. My opinion is never use Local Dimming med or high, it destroys the picture. I gave reasons and a pic of one of the ways in earlier posts. Low does a very good job, but don't get fooled, when you adjust to low it takes a second or two to become active, it may look at fist like it's not doing anything. The other setting I don't like is 0 sharpness. Using calibration Disc closer to 15 to 18. I used to go a little higher but like what the disc shows to be correct.
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I might as well chime in here. I agree with Tampa8--never put local dimming on anything except LOW or OFF (I like LOW). On sharpness settings, the CNET setting of 0 is insane. The picture is dull and bland. I've got my sharpness set at 25. I have my brightness set at 50 but I will adjust down to 45 if watching in the dark and will up it to 55 if watching during the day.
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Originally Posted by powrwrap View Post

I might as well chime in here. I agree with Tampa8--never put local dimming on anything except LOW or OFF (I like LOW). On sharpness settings, the CNET setting of 0 is insane. The picture is dull and bland. I've got my sharpness set at 25. I have my brightness set at 50 but I will adjust down to 45 if watching in the dark and will up it to 55 if watching during the day.
I agree with you guys on the local dimming set to "low", anything else and it screws up the gamma. As far as the sharpness at "0". It looks like this LG dosn't soften the edges, so "0" should be fine.
Adjusting the "brightness" control for different light levels, I advise you use the "backlight" for that, and set your brightness with a test pattern and leave it alone. From some testing with this panel it looks like between 52-55, should be fine.
post #3038 of 3596
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

I know there are alot of posts here, this has been discussed quite extensively. My opinion is never use Local Dimming med or high, it destroys the picture. I gave reasons and a pic of one of the ways in earlier posts. Low does a very good job, but don't get fooled, when you adjust to low it takes a second or two to become active, it may look at fist like it's not doing anything. The other setting I don't like is 0 sharpness. Using calibration Disc closer to 15 to 18. I used to go a little higher but like what the disc shows to be correct.
ok thanks, so low LD, sharpness 15-18 plus the modified CNET settings u wrote before, am I correct? p.s: yeah I dont like 0 sharpness too..
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Hey everyone
First off would like to say its nice to have forums like this to help choose your TV smile.gif Now i am in the line for a new TV and i was going to purchase this TV from currys but after reading this forum and other forums about this TV I am very nervous of buying it .i am new to LED TV,S i have had full hd plasma TV,S for years and am very happy with the picture quality from plasma TV,S specially when compared to LCD. But looking at all the problems on this site and others with picture settings,clouding problems, 24p bug, light bleeding problems,and gaming problems and even how many TV,S where returned i have to say its very off putting.

So i guess my first question would be is LED TV,S the way to go.

How long would you expect them to last.

And i suppose what would be a good TV to buy

Thanks in advance for all your help.
post #3040 of 3596
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Originally Posted by eireusa View Post

Hey everyone
First off would like to say its nice to have forums like this to help choose your TV smile.gif Now i am in the line for a new TV and i was going to purchase this TV from currys but after reading this forum and other forums about this TV I am very nervous of buying it .i am new to LED TV,S i have had full hd plasma TV,S for years and am very happy with the picture quality from plasma TV,S specially when compared to LCD. But looking at all the problems on this site and others with picture settings,clouding problems, 24p bug, light bleeding problems,and gaming problems and even how many TV,S where returned i have to say its very off putting.

So i guess my first question would be is LED TV,S the way to go.

How long would you expect them to last.

And i suppose what would be a good TV to buy

Thanks in advance for all your help.

I have had mine for 5 day now. There is some light bleed. I do not know if I can handle it or not . The rest of the TV is amazing. PQ is great. Was originally going to purchase the Panny GT 50. I will decide during the next week on what to do. I am still within my 30 day return window.
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I have had my Lm 7600 for over 2 weeks now and I have to say and I'm loving mine. I have a slight flash lighting issue in the top right but Led Dimming solved that issue for me. Overall you can't go wrong with this tv.
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Originally Posted by eireusa View Post

Hey everyone
First off would like to say its nice to have forums like this to help choose your TV smile.gif Now i am in the line for a new TV and i was going to purchase this TV from currys but after reading this forum and other forums about this TV I am very nervous of buying it .i am new to LED TV,S i have had full hd plasma TV,S for years and am very happy with the picture quality from plasma TV,S specially when compared to LCD. But looking at all the problems on this site and others with picture settings,clouding problems, 24p bug, light bleeding problems,and gaming problems and even how many TV,S where returned i have to say its very off putting.

So i guess my first question would be is LED TV,S the way to go.

How long would you expect them to last.

And i suppose what would be a good TV to buy

Thanks in advance for all your help.

Why are you even considering an LCD? You said you are very happy with the picture on a Plasma TV, and feel there are lots of problems with LCD's.
post #3043 of 3596
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Originally Posted by Howlrunner2070 View Post

I have had my Lm 7600 for over 2 weeks now and I have to say and I'm loving mine. I have a slight flash lighting issue in the top right but Led Dimming solved that issue for me. Overall you can't go wrong with this tv.

Glad to see one or two liking this TV but is it to much to ask to buy a tv with no issues its a lot of money and really should get what you pay for seems like far to many things going wrong with these sets not just from LG but from Samsung too. Is LED in its early stage or is it just smart TV'S the problem is with?
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Why are you even considering an LCD? You said you are very happy with the picture on a Plasma TV, and feel there are lots of problems with LCD's.

I think you might have picked me up wrong or maybe i don't know what i am talking about? but are there not 3 kinds of TV,S out there? PLASMA, LCD, LED, i said plasma was better than LCD, but is this not a LED TV. And of course i love the features of this set but it seems to me everybody seems to be saying there is a lot wrong with this set. i just think if you spend money like this you should get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by eireusa View Post

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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

Why are you even considering an LCD? You said you are very happy with the picture on a Plasma TV, and feel there are lots of problems with LCD's.

I think you might have picked me up wrong or maybe i don't know what i am talking about? but are there not 3 kinds of TV,S out there? PLASMA, LCD, LED, i said plasma was better than LCD, but is this not a LED TV. And of course i love the features of this set but it seems to me everybody seems to be saying there is a lot wrong with this set. i just think if you spend money like this you should get what you pay for.

Ah, I see. Except for recently design OLED's, of which *one model* is shipping this year and is absurdly priced, every "LED" TV you find is actually an LCD TV with LED lighting behind it. It's also known as an "LED-LCD" or less commonly an "LCD-LED". Previously when you saw LCD by itself, it meant an LCD TV with fluorescent lighting behind it.

THAT said, consider all LED-LCD TVs to have the same issues as LCD TV's. There is an exception to this in that LED-LCD's can be edge-lit, which is why TV's suddenly got thinner some years ago. Further, when you hear "LCD" in this forum, you should almost always assume they mean "LED-LCD", because those are the currently pushed technology, and the LM7600 is an LED-LCD.

Sigh. This is far far far too big a conversation to educate you in this thread.

Take a look at this page perhaps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_display

All this aside, Tampa's question is 100% valid and was my question as well. IF you are happy with plasma, we're asking why you would want to tempt fate and move to LCD? I'll go further to warn that if you've been fully happy with plasma, that the chances are very good that you will be disappointed by LCD (because of off-angle viewing, lesser blacks, not quite as smooth). LCD however will be brighter, but again, the bottom line is that you're happy with plasma, so given that, don't give yourself a headache: shift gears to searching for the right plasma.
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Maybe it is just me but every time I see a plasma in the store they always look dark and drabby next to the LEDs. They just lack pop. Sure, maybe the colors are more true or accurate but I like pop in my TV.

I have the lm6700 and I can tell you the blacks are as black as black can be. It looks stuuning to me. I kept trying to convince myself to look at a plasma for it's cheaper price but I just kept getting sucked into the LED TVs. Very happy with the choice I made. If I had a few hundred more dollars to spend I most certainly would have went with the 7600. The pictures on these LGs looked better to me then the Samsung's in the same price range.
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Ah, I see. Except for recently design OLED's, of which *one model* is shipping this year and is absurdly priced, every "LED" TV you find is actually an LCD TV with LED lighting behind it. It's also known as an "LED-LCD" or less commonly an "LCD-LED". Previously when you saw LCD by itself, it meant an LCD TV with fluorescent lighting behind it.

THAT said, consider all LED-LCD TVs to have the same issues as LCD TV's. There is an exception to this in that LED-LCD's can be edge-lit, which is why TV's suddenly got thinner some years ago. Further, when you hear "LCD" in this forum, you should almost always assume they mean "LED-LCD", because those are the currently pushed technology, and the LM7600 is an LED-LCD.

Sigh. This is far far far too big a conversation to educate you in this thread.

Take a look at this page perhaps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED-backlit_LCD_display

All this aside, Tampa's question is 100% valid and was my question as well. IF you are happy with plasma, we're asking why you would want to tempt fate and move to LCD? I'll go further to warn that if you've been fully happy with plasma, that the chances are very good that you will be disappointed by LCD (because of off-angle viewing, lesser blacks, not quite as smooth). LCD however will be brighter, but again, the bottom line is that you're happy with plasma, so given that, don't give yourself a headache: shift gears to searching for the right plasma.[/

Thank you for clearing that up. I Suppose the reason i was looking at this TV'S is my plasma of many years has quit on me and i was looking to replace it so i went to Currys to look for a replacement but i did not see a lot of plasma TV'S there so i taught maybe LED TV'S is leading the way so i taught may be time for a change. but did not think there would be quit so many problems with them.Could i ask any of you what TV you would recommend? thanks ps all that being said let it be plasma,lcd, led has this TV not got an awful lot wrong with it can i expect that with all these TV,S

Edited by eireusa - 3/4/13 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Maybe it is just me but every time I see a plasma in the store they always look dark and drabby next to the LEDs. They just lack pop. Sure, maybe the colors are more true or accurate but I like pop in my TV.

I have the lm6700 and I can tell you the blacks are as black as black can be. It looks stuuning to me. I kept trying to convince myself to look at a plasma for it's cheaper price but I just kept getting sucked into the LED TVs. Very happy with the choice I made. If I had a few hundred more dollars to spend I most certainly would have went with the 7600. The pictures on these LGs looked better to me then the Samsung's in the same price range.

First, show-rooms are notoriously over-bright places, which naturally bias the brighter technologies (LCD). I can't tell you how many living rooms of friends I've been in that had LCDs putting out painfully absurd amounts of luminance.

As for the rest, I can only say that consider that you might be reacting the way that the majority of folks react: brighter is better. Or worse, overly razor sharp edges are better---across the board. I too am looking for an LCD because a plasma just cannot compete in luminance for the room I'm in. But keep in mind that the "pop" you're talking about isn't "good", it's just pop, and compared to a plasma, I'll stare for hours at a plasma with no eye strain, yet develop eye strain from that "pop" if watching an LCD. Further, try looking at your LCD from a close, but side couch. In particular, the 6700. Plasmas are emissive technologies: the plasma array itself is what is emitting the light---looking at even steep angles is ok. In the LCD case, the light from behind is pushed through the LCD array, and even with IPS panels, off angles suffer. Also, given that the plasmas have subfield refresh at 600Hz and more, there are often much smoother motions. AND, because LCD's are "sample-and-hold" technologies (until strobing technology gets better), the subs hold their luminance for a period of time, which adds to motion blur. Plasmas discharge quickly after excitation, a fast pulse, which allows for eye tracking to not have images "smear" across the retina.

Wrong thread for this one.

And no, the blacks are not "as black as black can be". There are very very few LCDs that can compete with plasmas in that regard: the Sharp Elite (uber $$) is one of them, and even then there's considerable argument.
Edited by tgm1024 - 3/4/13 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I may be able to help with the first inquiry. The LG LM7600 employs a 120hz panel(no frame insertion) and a scanning backlight system that simulates an additional 120hz of motion performance w/black frame insertion to assist pixel response time. If you employ the tru-motion system built into the set using interpolation settings user, smooth and clear most will introduce motion artifacts that appear as small pixel around moving objects. This will often times look like on screen objects are shimmering whether it be movie, network TV or gaming. Make sure you have these settings off or on user, so you can have some level of customization in how much interpolation is used.

Thanks Dr. Will try

Anyone has any advice for the missing 'subscription' in youtube?
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I should be taking posession of the new 55LA7600 soon, anxious to compare this model with the 2012 55LM7600.

Hopefully this new set doesn't have the light bleed and connectivity and power on/off issues that have been plaguing my 7600.
post #3051 of 3596
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

I should be taking posession of the new 55LA7600 soon, anxious to compare this model with the 2012 55LM7600.

Hopefully this new set doesn't have the light bleed and connectivity and power on/off issues that have been plaguing my 7600.

I think you mean the 55LA7400, no?

And where did you buy it?
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

I think you mean the 55LA7400, no?

And where did you buy it?

I would like to know as well. Also what price if you don't mind telling. Adorama is the only one I've seen with the 2013 models but I don't know if they can be purchased just yet. LG customer service told me that the second week of March they will be out.
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Sorry i meant the 55LA7400 haha

And also sorry, i really can't/shouldn't divulge that information just yet.

(I'm not a professional blogger/reviewer or anything so don't expect tons of detailed info once i get it)

And yes, i have definitely obtained the set legitimately so don't go down that road either.
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Are you one of those lucky people that gets free stuff in exchange for reviewing the item? Jelly frown.gif
post #3055 of 3596
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

Sorry i meant the 55LA7400 haha

And also sorry, i really can't/shouldn't divulge that information just yet.

(I'm not a professional blogger/reviewer or anything so don't expect tons of detailed info once i get it)

And yes, i have definitely obtained the set legitimately so don't go down that road either.

(Huh???) Well, regardless, if get a chance, post pictures of the thing in your living room----it helps a lot of people. Among the most helpful things ever for new releases are when the early adopters show real life photos of the TV. For example, look at the first several posts of the 60LM7200 thread, which came out right around when the TV first showed up. Invaluable, and pictures we'd never get from the manufacturer.
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No i dont get free stuff for reviewing things... i said im not a blogger or reviewer etc.

Pictures? I suppose i can do that... what kind of pictures do you guys want?
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

No i dont get free stuff for reviewing things... i said im not a blogger or reviewer etc.

Pictures? I suppose i can do that... what kind of pictures do you guys want?

Often times, we'll see pictures of the unpacking of it, the TV from the top, sides, etc., all kinds of closeups that you don't get otherwise. And then you'll get in return "ooo ooo ooo can you take a picture of this", etc. LOL.

Also, how close you could get it to the wall, what it looks like on a table, etc.

All extremely valuable.
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I mounted my 7600 on a tabletop stand w/ tower mounting bracket. While the set had minor edge bleed mounting the set seems to have made it much worse. Anyone have experience with this happening? I assume that because the mount can't be move vertically only tilted that it is causing additional pressure on the screen causing the worsening of the bleed?
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Often times, we'll see pictures of the unpacking of it, the TV from the top, sides, etc., all kinds of closeups that you don't get otherwise. And then you'll get in return "ooo ooo ooo can you take a picture of this", etc. LOL.

Also, how close you could get it to the wall, what it looks like on a table, etc.

All extremely valuable.

Oh geez are you kidding me? haha that seems like way too much effort and i am way too busy right now... arghh
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I've been scanning this thread quite a bit recently (as it is quite a bit more active than the xxlm6200 thread)...and wanted to post some information about the Amazon Instant Video app and it's soon-to-be-released availability on the 2012 (Non-Google) Smart TV Lineup.

If anyone has noticed the LG Reps have been saying for about 4 months now that the Amazon App was being developed for those of us with the non-google Smart TVs from 2012. They had been listing an expected release date of March 2013. Since the 2/26 firmware didn't add the app...I contacted LG about it and was given this response:
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Thank you for contacting LG Electronics USA. I am delighted to hear from you as our valued customer and I will be glad to answer your concern.

Based on our resources, it will be available by this month. We will send you the firmware as soon as we have it via software update.

I hope I was able to help you with your concern. If you need more assistance, you may click on the link below for support options.

<<http://www.lg.com/us/support>>

Thank you for choosing LG! Have a nice day!

Sincerely,
Helena
LG Electronics


So - it appears that the Amazon Instant Video app will still be showing up this month....so I'm anxiously waiting.
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