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post #3301 of 3924
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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

Important note! If you return your LG Smart TV - make sure to clear your Netflix and any other login info. I had some instant watching activity that neither my husband and I watched - like Jackass 2 and some other movies like Tyler Perry, etc. I called Netflix and they said it was coming from a LG Smart TV. I had returned 2 of them. The store, I guess, sold them as an open box item and someone was watching movies on my account. I hope they enjoyed them, as well as their cloudy screen and flashlighting issues. (Evil smile)

I changed my password and Netflix deactivated all my devices until I re-login with the new password. I also changed my LG Smart Apps account. Cancelled and re-registered with a different email address. Glad there was no payment method on that account. Lesson learned this time.
Yeah, I did the same thing with the TV I returned to Best Buy. Totally forgot to clear it out. Luckily I realized it when I got home and before anyone got to buy the TV. If you still have the TV, you can clear out your LG account within the TV settings.

For Netflix, it was a little harder to figure out how to log out straight from the TV but if you still have your TV and need to return it, go into Netflix and then do the below actions on the remote. I know it sounds crazy but it is the only way to log out!

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post #3302 of 3924
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Originally Posted by gugarci View Post

I'm looking at the 7600 as one of my candidates to replace my almost 8 year old 32" Sony. According to Input Lag.com this TV should be good for gaming since it has a great input lag time. Is this correct? I play Xbox lots of COD & Halo and a couple of other shooters. I'm going to try to read as much of this thread as possible. But from reading some of the post on the last page I'm a little bit of the LG's reliability. Although Consumer Reports rates them higher than Samsung for reliability.

Thanks.

Tons of posts about this subject right here that people took time to explain....... You'll get good info.
post #3303 of 3924
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

They're in cahoots with each other. All the LG devices in your home are communicating via WiFi and they're organizing a schedule of F-ing up.

Just WAIT until you suddenly realize that LG panels are in Vizio, Panasonic and now Sony. ......try not to soil yourself.
Excellent!
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post #3304 of 3924
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Yeah, I did the same thing with the TV I returned to Best Buy. Totally forgot to clear it out. Luckily I realized it when I got home and before anyone got to buy the TV. If you still have the TV, you can clear out your LG account within the TV settings.

Just wish I had thought to do it before-hand. I was concentrating so much on having a good screen, that I forgot about my user-info in the "smart" area and Netflix. It is such a pain to return big TVS and especially with the uncooperative Best Buy I dealt with.

I know it sounds strange, but I would love to know who got the returned set and how they could just think they are getting free Netflix. They had to see my username. Let's see - I still have the serial # info. I guess I could just forget about it, but that's no fun. biggrin.gif And it is really my fault, but what the hay!
post #3305 of 3924
Got an exchange last night for my 7600. New one had worse flashlighing issues then the one before so Newegg offered to ship another one without question. I must say they have been a great company to deal with. I have to think if I want to try #3. Just for the heck of it since I am either going to return or exchange the 7600 I tried to rub out the flashlighting to see what would happen and it actually seemed to help one corner almost completey and dimmed the other one down. I do not want to keep a TV that I have to take an action like this but was just curious to see what would happen. For the money this TV cost, I would like a TV I can watch.

I also a 60" LG plasma that I am evaluating in my home. I like the picture of 7600 better but my wife kind of prefes the plasma. Also, since I have a 2.5 year old he watches animated disney movies especially Cars and Cars 2 like every day and the plasma just cannot compete with the pop of the 7600. Animated movies just look incredible on it. I also think everything looks incredible on it as well. My wife thinks Avatar looks a lot better on the plasma then the LED.

Since I sit about 14 feet from my TV I am really trying to like the plasma for the size but when I have them side by side the LED just looks so much realer. I feel like I can reach into the screen and shake peoples hands. The picture looks like it is directly on the front of the glass. With the plasma I feel like I am watching a TV through a screen....Well who knows, maybe the 3rd time is a charm.
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If anyone is still looking for a 47 LM7600, Best Buy just dropped their advertised price to $999, down from the usual $1099. While this isn't even close to how low the price has gotten over the last few months, it's still pretty decent. I paid $849 for mine a month and a half ago, getting a local BB to price match a local Frys. I would definitely recommend the set at $999 though.
post #3307 of 3924
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Originally Posted by MMcCraryNJ View Post

If anyone is still looking for a 47 LM7600, Best Buy just dropped their advertised price to $999, down from the usual $1099. While this isn't even close to how low the price has gotten over the last few months, it's still pretty decent. I paid $849 for mine a month and a half ago, getting a local BB to price match a local Frys. I would definitely recommend the set at $999 though.

Not a great price. Amazon has that at below $900 off and on for awhile now. It's currently $894.96 (FBA/Prime):

http://www.amazon.com/LG-47LM7600-47-Inch-LED-LCD-Glasses/dp/B006ZH0KVG

HOWEVER, Best Buy *WILL* price match Amazon, so long as it's sold BY Amazon. The "fulfilled by Amazon" is a gray area----I'm not sure of their take on this: it's technically a marketplace vendor, but from Amazon warehouses, and using Amazon's return policy. By all accounts they absolutely *should* match that if they understood that they'll lose a sale otherwise (there's no additional risk to the consumer when its "fulfilled by Amazon"----I double checked this with Amazon themselves.)

There's an LCD "great found deals" sub-forum to this one if you're interested.
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Newegg has the 47" for $799 and the 55" for $1249.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Newegg has the 47" for $799 and the 55" for $1249.

Bestbuy *does* match newegg.
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I've had my TV since November and no problems whatsoever. The Hobbit in 3D was fantastic on this tv! I'm very happy with the tv minus the crazy wand remote and Amazon Prime not being available.
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Originally Posted by perseus71 View Post

I've had my TV since November and no problems whatsoever. The Hobbit in 3D was fantastic on this tv! I'm very happy with the tv minus the crazy wand remote and Amazon Prime not being available.
So glad to hear you are happy. I've had my exchanged set for almost a month and look forward to watching my fab "movie theatre" every night.
post #3313 of 3924
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Originally Posted by perseus71 View Post

I've had my TV since November and no problems whatsoever. The Hobbit in 3D was fantastic on this tv! I'm very happy with the tv minus the crazy wand remote and Amazon Prime not being available.

Get the regular LG remote for it. Amazon prime works great on the 7600, hopefully everyone will get it at some point.

http://www.electronicadventure.us/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AKB73615313&Category_Code=
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

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Originally Posted by perseus71 View Post

I've had my TV since November and no problems whatsoever. The Hobbit in 3D was fantastic on this tv! I'm very happy with the tv minus the crazy wand remote and Amazon Prime not being available.

Get the regular LG remote for it. Amazon prime works great on the 7600, hopefully everyone will get it at some point.

http://www.electronicadventure.us/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AKB73615313&Category_Code=

I had thought you were a fan of the Harmony line. No?
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I am, and have one I use now all the time. But some are just looking to control their TV but not with the magic remote and I think there are still some who don't realize LG makes a regular remote for the 7600....
post #3316 of 3924
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Originally Posted by Howlrunner2070 View Post

I got this update Yesterday. I have not noticed any changes that I can see. I still saw a bit of a slow down issues on the face offs (not all the time) in the Hockey game last night as well as at certain times when the puck is moving really fast there seems to be a haze that shows up around it. Overall still love the TV though.

I find the picture fantastic on this thing really.



I have discovered what seems to be causing the slowdown I mentioned before while watching hockey games. I said it seemed to happen during face offs frequently. Well I now know it happens right after the Station does a static image of the logo "TSN" or "CBC" during the break in action when it shows the replay and then before going back to game it puts the logo up quickly then goes to face off where I see the slowdown for a few seconds.

Does anyone else notice this and is there a way to stop it from happening. I've seen it with Trumotion on and off.

Thanks for any help as always.
post #3317 of 3924
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

I am, and have one I use now all the time. But some are just looking to control their TV but not with the magic remote and I think there are still some who don't realize LG makes a regular remote for the 7600....

Is there a universal way of having remotes enter querty information?

It always seemed to me that what remotes *should* be transmitting at all times is XML, and ONLY XML. This would provide a built in format-format that they all could follow.
post #3318 of 3924
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Originally Posted by Howlrunner2070 View Post

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Originally Posted by Howlrunner2070 View Post

I got this update Yesterday. I have not noticed any changes that I can see. I still saw a bit of a slow down issues on the face offs (not all the time) in the Hockey game last night as well as at certain times when the puck is moving really fast there seems to be a haze that shows up around it. Overall still love the TV though.

I find the picture fantastic on this thing really.



I have discovered what seems to be causing the slowdown I mentioned before while watching hockey games. I said it seemed to happen during face offs frequently. Well I now know it happens right after the Station does a static image of the logo "TSN" or "CBC" during the break in action when it shows the replay and then before going back to game it puts the logo up quickly then goes to face off where I see the slowdown for a few seconds.

Does anyone else notice this and is there a way to stop it from happening. I've seen it with Trumotion on and off.

Thanks for any help as always.

Watching the Blue Jays home opener tonight and the same issue after the logo flashes on screen.

Help.
post #3319 of 3924
for all that were curious or have asked about 3D settings, i think i have finally settled on a setup that i prefer best.

of course, 3D settings are a much more subjective/preferential type of setting, so feel free to stick with what you like. we all have a different set of eyes that may or may not agree with my settings.

Strength/Depth: 12
Viewpoint: 2

here's why i've settled on these. when setting the depth, i notice that the sides of the entire image/screen tend to move inward when set below or above 10. 12 seems to be my compromise between adding just a hint more depth without dealing with the screen/image being adjusted in this way.

viewpoint plays with how close or far the 3d image appears to be. setting a (-) value sets things back like your watching through a window. setting a (+) value pops things forward at you but can become disorienting at extreme levels. also, i noticed, with certain 3d enabled games, the more extreme you set this value, the higher the chances are that you'll notice ghosting around certain objects. i do like to play the occassional fps, and extreme values for viewpoint would cause ghosting while turning at highspeeds and give me a bit of double vision on reticles when aiming down the sights. 2 seems like the highest I could set things without noticing any of these issues.

also, i've seen people complain about the 3d image "resetting" when the viewpoint is set to -10 or 10. i do not know what this is or why it's doing it, but my set will do this as well. however, since i'm not a fan of the effects at -10 or 10, it does not really bother me that my set does this. my settings at 12 & 2 do not give me this issue.

i assume that how the stereoscopic 3d images are developed/coded can make these settings perfect on some games/movies, and disorienting and headache inducing on others. i find that adjusting the left/right setting as needed tends to correct this issue without having to change the depth or viewpoint settings.

lastly, many stereoscopic 3d enabled games have sliders that adjust the strength of the 3d effects. i find that the best way to set these is to keep my depth/viewpoint settings, adjust the left/right to the setting that feels most comfortable for viewing that game/movie, and then turning the strength settings from within the game/movie to the max setting. if you experience any ill effects (most likely ghosting), then turn down the in-game strength settings until the ill effects are no longer an issue. Resistance 3 has been the worst offender so far for me. I could not turn the strength above 25% without getting issues with ghosting and double vision with the aiming reticle. Crysis 2, Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 looked fantastic at their max settings. Ghost Recon Future Soldier has no in-game adjustments for the 3d effects, and it looks average compared to the others.

hope this helps you guys, or maybe gives you some better insight and maybe a starting point for finding your own preferred 3D settings.
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I have less than a week to decide whether or not to send back my 47LM7600 to Newegg for a replacement. I have minimal but noticeable light bleeding in the top left and right corners with backlight set to 50 and local dimming at medium. At what led backlight, brightness, local dimming settings, etc should no noticeable light bleed be present? My TV is an October 2012 build date which some people said is bad but others said the build date doesn't matter. I don't want to be a perfectionist but also don't want to be a sucker either keeping a crappy product. Thanks.
post #3321 of 3924
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Originally Posted by rcmagic1 View Post

I have less than a week to decide whether or not to send back my 47LM7600 to Newegg for a replacement. I have minimal but noticeable light bleeding in the top left and right corners with backlight set to 50 and local dimming at medium. At what led backlight, brightness, local dimming settings, etc should no noticeable light bleed be present? My TV is an October 2012 build date which some people said is bad but others said the build date doesn't matter. I don't want to be a perfectionist but also don't want to be a sucker either keeping a crappy product. Thanks.
I don't think the production date has anything to do with it. The last one I sent back was from Dec 2012. If they haven't fixed anything by then nothing is getting fixed.

What you have to decide is what if the new one is worse then what you have what will your next step be. Will you try for a 3rd or move on to something else. I was dealing with the 55" model and for the money I was paying, if the light bleed was bad enough that I would stare at it on any dark scene it would take away from the actual enjoyment of watching the TV. So my decision was if I was not happy with the replacement I would either start looking at other brands LED TVs that would most likely will have the same light issues or go with a plasma. After trying 6 LED TVs, I went with the plasma.

I was not willing to settle on a picture that local dimming had to be set to medium. Setting this to anything above low effects the quality of the whole picture. If it doesn't look decent on low then it was a no go for me.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

I don't think the production date has anything to do with it. The last one I sent back was from Dec 2012. If they haven't fixed anything by then nothing is getting fixed.

What you have to decide is what if the new one is worse then what you have what will your next step be. Will you try for a 3rd or move on to something else. I was dealing with the 55" model and for the money I was paying, if the light bleed was bad enough that I would stare at it on any dark scene it would take away from the actual enjoyment of watching the TV. So my decision was if I was not happy with the replacement I would either start looking at other brands LED TVs that would most likely will have the same light issues or go with a plasma. After trying 6 LED TVs, I went with the plasma.

I was not willing to settle on a picture that local dimming had to be set to medium. Setting this to anything above low effects the quality of the whole picture. If it doesn't look decent on low then it was a no go for me.

Eric has a good point. The 2nd one could be worse, and then what do you do - return it again?

I have come to my own conclusion (which I could be wrong on) that none of these sets are perfect for light bleed issues. My set has the issue, but is only seen from blank input screens, and it is not so major to effect any active content. The pluses for the set outweigh this small minus. I can live with it - after all its my third try - and I'll be damned if I try a fourth time.
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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

I have come to my own conclusion (which I could be wrong on) that none of these sets are perfect for light bleed issues.

This is exactly my feeling. I have to laugh when I read all these "I'm returning....." posts. I'm picky, but even I will admit that I only see the flashlighting when looking at a blank screen or a very dark movie scene. And even then, I'm more focused on the center of the screen as that's the center of the action. I never focus on the edges of the picture for anything. I sure can't see any flashlighting when "normal" viewing is done.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

I don't think the production date has anything to do with it. The last one I sent back was from Dec 2012. If they haven't fixed anything by then nothing is getting fixed.

What you have to decide is what if the new one is worse then what you have what will your next step be. Will you try for a 3rd or move on to something else. I was dealing with the 55" model and for the money I was paying, if the light bleed was bad enough that I would stare at it on any dark scene it would take away from the actual enjoyment of watching the TV. So my decision was if I was not happy with the replacement I would either start looking at other brands LED TVs that would most likely will have the same light issues or go with a plasma. After trying 6 LED TVs, I went with the plasma.

I was not willing to settle on a picture that local dimming had to be set to medium. Setting this to anything above low effects the quality of the whole picture. If it doesn't look decent on low then it was a no go for me.

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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

Eric has a good point. The 2nd one could be worse, and then what do you do - return it again?

I have come to my own conclusion (which I could be wrong on) that none of these sets are perfect for light bleed issues. My set has the issue, but is only seen from blank input screens, and it is not so major to effect any active content. The pluses for the set outweigh this small minus. I can live with it - after all its my third try - and I'll be damned if I try a fourth time.

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Originally Posted by quattroG View Post

This is exactly my feeling. I have to laugh when I read all these "I'm returning....." posts. I'm picky, but even I will admit that I only see the flashlighting when looking at a blank screen or a very dark movie scene. And even then, I'm more focused on the center of the screen as that's the center of the action. I never focus on the edges of the picture for anything. I sure can't see any flashlighting when "normal" viewing is done.

Thank you all. I agree that everything else on the TV from design, 3D quality, color, interface are quite impressive so will try to keep things in perspective.
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I have owned the TV since last November and so I have been very happy about it. I have recently noticed minor quirk. When I just got the TV, selecting different input was quite fast. I can hit the button and choose input and the input list shows up really fast. Now it takes quite a bit longer to have list shows up. I was wondering if this is related to any software update as I have it set with automatic update.
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If I haven't changed inputs for a while it isn't exactly speedy though not excessively slow. But once I do use it seems it speeds up the next time I go to it.
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Originally Posted by quattroG View Post

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Originally Posted by klopez3709 View Post

I have come to my own conclusion (which I could be wrong on) that none of these sets are perfect for light bleed issues.

This is exactly my feeling. I have to laugh when I read all these "I'm returning....." posts. I'm picky, but even I will admit that I only see the flashlighting when looking at a blank screen or a very dark movie scene. And even then, I'm more focused on the center of the screen as that's the center of the action. I never focus on the edges of the picture for anything. I sure can't see any flashlighting when "normal" viewing is done.

Don't laugh...there's nothing remotely funny about this bothering people at all.

There's nowhere on the box where it says that there would be a light bleeding in from the edges. And unless you understand the technology (NOT a requirement for purchasing a TV any more than it is for purchasing a microwave or a car), there's no reason to expect it either. It's unacceptable to sell a TV that has obvious design artifacts in it when everywhere the product is represented the picture is supposed to be "stunning" this and wonderful that.

Besides, the problem with LG does NOT stop at bleed. They are also plagued with random cloudiness. This is not acceptable, never has been acceptable, and never will be acceptable unless they put that caveat right into the literature. And they have that problem even with their FLAGSHIP, the uber expensive LM9600.
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Originally Posted by tgm1024 View Post

Don't laugh...there's nothing remotely funny about this bothering people at all.

There's nowhere on the box where it says that there would be a light bleeding in from the edges. And unless you understand the technology (NOT a requirement for purchasing a TV any more than it is for purchasing a microwave or a car), there's no reason to expect it either. It's unacceptable to sell a TV that has obvious design artifacts in it when everywhere the product is represented the picture is supposed to be "stunning" this and wonderful that.

Besides, the problem with LG does NOT stop at bleed. They are also plagued with random cloudiness. This is not acceptable, never has been acceptable, and never will be acceptable unless they put that caveat right into the literature. And they have that problem even with their FLAGSHIP, the uber expensive LM9600.
Totally agree and if it wasn't for this site I would have had no clue that a TV should do this. My first LED TV I got home I obviously thought was defective until reading about the actual TV. Then the more I got involved in this the more I learned.

I must say I am totally surprised any company would release a product that sells for so much that has an issue like this. I would think these companies would have said this technology is not ready for retail and keep working on something else that would eventually be affordable without the the light issues that plague LED TVs. This is an issue that in fact effects an actual picture while you are watching a show with any dark picture and not just a black screen.

It just boggles my mind that we have accepted this crap we are being sold and it has become the technology of choice by most people right now.
Edited by eric3316 - 4/6/13 at 1:59pm
post #3329 of 3924
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Totally agree and if it wasn't for this site I would have had no clue that a TV should do this. My first LED TV I got home I obviously thought was defective until reading about the actual TV. Then the more I got involved in this the more I learned.

I must say I am totally surprised any company would release a product that sells for so much that has an issue like this. I would think these companies would have said this technology is not ready for retail and keep working on something else that would eventually be affordable without the the light issues that plague LED TVs. This is an issue that in fact effects an actual picture while you are watching a show with any dark picture and not just a black screen.

It just boggles my mind that we have accepted this crap we are being sold and it has become the technology of choice my most people right now.

I agree too. I have Geek Squad coming out to look at my set this coming week. And my BP 620 is being exchanged as well. I wish it did not have all the "smart features" just build a better tv.
post #3330 of 3924
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Originally Posted by tampa8 View Post

If I haven't changed inputs for a while it isn't exactly speedy though not excessively slow. But once I do use it seems it speeds up the next time I go to it.
Hi tampa, I would like to know your expert settings for 3D for the LM6700 are? I think your 2D thx tweaked settings for that set look really good! smile.gif
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