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post #481 of 3596
Hey Guys,

I currently have the 47lm76000 on lay-away at Sears for the $1299 price, however, Sears has now dropped the price for the 47lm67000 to $1000. Just wondering if you guys think the 7600 is worth the $300 premium?

Was planning on perhaps getting it this week and would like to know some opinions.

Thanks in advance
post #482 of 3596
As far as I can tell there are 3 differences:

1. Trim package on 6700 is bright metal (silver) while 7600 has dark metal trim (black)
2. 6700 has un-adjustable 120 Hz TrueMotion while 7600 has user adjustable 240 Hz TrueMotion that many people don't like anyway.
3. 6700 is listed with 8M:1 dynamic contrast ratio while 7600 is 9M:1. I haven't seen any side by side comaprisons that indicate the difference is visible or the numbers are meaningful.

The top of the line 9600 is listed as 10M:1. Being a back-lit Local-dimming set, the contrast ratio "should be" very good. That being said, the difference between 8M, 9M, and 10M : 1 "may be" significant.

So, in my opinion, the color is a preference and isn't woth $300, the 240 Hz TrueMotion is probaly going to be turned off and therefore isn't woth $300. What you may be paying for is the higher contrast ratio. This could be a real difference or just marketing nonsense but at this point there isn't enough first hand data to say.

I looked at the 6700 first but when I found the 7600 at a LOWER price I obviously went with the 7600.
post #483 of 3596
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Originally Posted by mozilla314 View Post

There should be an AV Sync control in the audio portion of your menu.
There is a lever to move back and forth until the audio matches the
video.

Thanks mozilla 314 now is working perfectly......
post #484 of 3596
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

As far as I can tell there are 3 differences:

1. Trim package on 6700 is bright metal (silver) while 7600 has dark metal trim (black)
2. 6700 has un-adjustable 120 Hz TrueMotion while 7600 has user adjustable 240 Hz TrueMotion that many people don't like anyway.
3. 6700 is listed with 8M:1 dynamic contrast ratio while 7600 is 9M:1. I haven't seen any side by side comaprisons that indicate the difference is visible or the numbers are meaningful.

The top of the line 9600 is listed as 10M:1. Being a back-lit Local-dimming set, the contrast ratio "should be" very good. That being said, the difference between 8M, 9M, and 10M : 1 "may be" significant.

So, in my opinion, the color is a preference and isn't woth $300, the 240 Hz TrueMotion is probaly going to be turned off and therefore isn't woth $300. What you may be paying for is the higher contrast ratio. This could be a real difference or just marketing nonsense but at this point there isn't enough first hand data to say.

I looked at the 6700 first but when I found the 7600 at a LOWER price I obviously went with the 7600.

Hey man... thanks for the input

I think I am going to stick with the 7600 for now. Reviews on the 6700 model seem so mixed and I do not want to be disappointed haha
post #485 of 3596
I'm tired of swapping out sets, its a pain. I am going to be returning my 55LM7600 for a Panasonic 55GT50. The LM7600 is a great set if you don't mind flash-lighting. However, my latest LM7600 I received had a build date of April 2012 and it still had the issue.

It's too bad too, I wanted to love this TV.
post #486 of 3596
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Originally Posted by masterkaj View Post

I'm tired of swapping out sets, its a pain. I am going to be returning my 55LM7600 for a Panasonic 55GT50. The LM7600 is a great set if you don't mind flash-lighting. However, my latest LM7600 I received had a build date of April 2012 and it still had the issue.

It's too bad too, I wanted to love this TV.

Stay away from the Panasonic Plasma's. They have a terrible burn in problem.
post #487 of 3596
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

Stay away from the Panasonic Plasma's. They have a terrible burn in problem.

I had the same problem with a 50 inch st30 model. I could not play any video games for more than 20 minutes without having a permanent reduction of brightness where the HUD was on the screen. This was after the break in time period. The pixel orbiter just made the burn in blurrier (if that is a word). Then there was the problem with green phosphor trails. If you play MW3 the trails were the worst on maps like sea town, where there was a lot of white-ish colors. I returned that set to BB in under 30 days before Christmas.

I ordered a 55lm7600 about a week ago at a locally owned store. I got a good deal with an online price match, but I was told it would be a month before I would get the set. Hopefully the flashlighting isn't too bad.
post #488 of 3596
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Originally Posted by masterkaj View Post

... for a Panasonic 55GT50. ...

This is what I was going to go with initially and all the critical reviews indicate that plasma is the best, BUT.

As hard as I tried, I just could not get past the low brightness level on ANY plasma set. Yes they absoultely give you great blacks but they just don't have the brightness to work well in a light and bright room. In a home theater environment where you basically sit in the dark, I think plasma is great. I don't sit in the dark; there is always either dayligh from 18 windows or lights in the evening.

Unless you sit in the dark, the deeper blacks of plasma just don't matter. The brighter whites of LCD win out on every set I've tried.

I hope you find something that works for your situation.
post #489 of 3596
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Originally Posted by weasel00 View Post

I had the same problem with a 50 inch st30 model. I could not play any video games for more than 20 minutes without having a permanent reduction of brightness where the HUD was on the screen. This was after the break in time period. The pixel orbiter just made the burn in blurrier (if that is a word). Then there was the problem with green phosphor trails. If you play MW3 the trails were the worst on maps like sea town, where there was a lot of white-ish colors. I returned that set to BB in under 30 days before Christmas.

I ordered a 55lm7600 about a week ago at a locally owned store. I got a good deal with an online price match, but I was told it would be a month before I would get the set. Hopefully the flashlighting isn't too bad.

I don't play any games on my PS3 (maybe madden sometimes, but everything else is on my PC) and only watch Blu-Rays or watch TV, so don't think that will be an issue at all.


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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

This is what I was going to go with initially and all the critical reviews indicate that plasma is the best, BUT.

As hard as I tried, I just could not get past the low brightness level on ANY plasma set. Yes they absoultely give you great blacks but they just don't have the brightness to work well in a light and bright room. In a home theater environment where you basically sit in the dark, I think plasma is great. I don't sit in the dark; there is always either dayligh from 18 windows or lights in the evening.

Unless you sit in the dark, the deeper blacks of plasma just don't matter. The brighter whites of LCD win out on every set I've tried.

I hope you find something that works for your situation.

I have normal lighting in my room, but can make it very dark if needed. I just cannot stand watching a movie at night on the LM7600.
post #490 of 3596
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

Stay away from the Panasonic Plasma's. They have a terrible burn in problem.

I am actively looking to replace my Panasonic GT30 and was considering the 7600.

I have Gears of Wars indicators burned in the upper left and upper right of my
GT30 screen from playing horde mode. I do not consider the gaming I did to get it there extreme, and I'm extremely angry about it. Panasonic also encourages you to burn in images because most of their preset video settings default the contrast to the maximum 100. This includes, of all things, the "game" mode. You know, the mode you would think would be good for gaming but will actually actively destroy your set? You also have to be leery of channels with logos and watching too much 4:3 content. I found that now I'm turning the settings down on anything I do for any length of time. I'm working for my tv instead of the other way around. The GT30 is my first and my last plasma, and most likely my last Panasonic product.

Does the 7600 or any of these new 3d LCDs suffer any type of burn-in? Are there any settings you need to be leery of? I want to game and not be constantly fearful that the score indicators are going to be a permanent part of the screen.
post #491 of 3596
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Originally Posted by Alpha OTS View Post

I am actively looking to replace my Panasonic GT30 and was considering the 7600.

I have Gears of Wars indicators burned in the upper left and upper right of my
GT30 screen from playing horde mode. I do not consider the gaming I did to get it there extreme, and I'm extremely angry about it. Panasonic also encourages you to burn in images because most of their preset video settings default the contrast to the maximum 100. This includes, of all things, the "game" mode. You know, the mode you would think would be good for gaming but will actually actively destroy your set? You also have to be leery of channels with logos and watching too much 4:3 content. I found that now I'm turning the settings down on anything I do for any length of time. I'm working for my tv instead of the other way around. The GT30 is my first and my last plasma, and most likely my last Panasonic product.

Does the 7600 or any of these new 3d LCDs suffer any type of burn-in? Are there any settings you need to be leery of? I want to game and not be constantly fearful that the score indicators are going to be a permanent part of the screen.

I never have had any issues with burn in on my LCD televisions. It can happen, but not likely.
post #492 of 3596
I got my LG 55LM760 (european model) and it has no flashlight or lightbleeding its a great tv. I had a 60 inch LG plasma tv but the passive cinema 3D on the led tv's from LG is so much better than the active system. I am very happy with my choice

Greetings from the Netherlands....
post #493 of 3596
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Originally Posted by masterkaj View Post

I don't play any games on my PS3 (maybe madden sometimes, but everything else is on my PC) and only watch Blu-Rays or watch TV, so don't think that will be an issue at all.




I have normal lighting in my room, but can make it very dark if needed. I just cannot stand watching a movie at night on the LM7600.

I own a 2011 3D Panasonic Plasma and have several network logos burned into the screen. I don't play video games on it either. All I can say is after spending what I did on the set, I'm furious over the situation and the fact that Panasonic will do nothing about it. I know they say burn in is not covered under warranty, but when you average less than 4 hrs of tv watching a night and they advertise that burn in is a thing of the past on their plasma sets (check their website, it's what made me decide to buy the thing in the first place) and you don't need to worry about it, it should not happen.

By contrast, I now have a 55LM7600 and love the picture. The 3d effect is fantastic, I see no evidence of burn in so far, and even though I am going to exchange it due to the flashlighting problems (which have actually decreased over time now) I can say that the LG is a much better product than the Panasonic. The black levels may not be the same as a plasma, but to my eye, they still look excellent. The only time I notice the flashlight effect is when viewing content with black bars, the corners look light grey. With the plasma, every time I watch it, I see the network logos burned in the screen no matter what the content.

I should add that over the last year I've also tried the Samsung 6000 series LED lit tv and after having tried out Plasma, MVA LCD, and IPS LCD. IPS panels are the only product I would recommend to someone looking for a new tv. If you can't find an edge lit LED set you like, maybe try looking for a CCFL backlit IPS set. CCFL is much more evenly lit, so you should not have to worry about flashlighting, you just won't get the black levels that local dimming in an LED allow.
post #494 of 3596
Is this light bleeding something that would be covered by a warranty that would actually get a tech into your house who could actually fix it? The idea of repeatedly taking a large set back and forth to the store until I find one without light bleeding seems like a real pain.
post #495 of 3596
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Originally Posted by Alpha OTS View Post

Is this light bleeding something that would be covered by a warranty that would actually get a tech into your house who could actually fix it? The idea of repeatedly taking a large set back and forth to the store until I find one without light bleeding seems like a real pain.

I actually talked to LG and they said they could send someone out, but a NEW TV should not need to be serviced right away. You can look at the pictures I posted earlier, it is just terrible. Both sets I received had the issue, so there is a trend. I'm not going to be LG's quality control.

Don't get me wrong, I love LG products. I own a 120hz 23" LCD monitor, a 22" LCD monitor, and a 42" LCD TV; all of which are awesome and never had any issues. I wanted to give LG a chance, I'm just not in the business of having to swap a new TV out multiple times a week to get a good set.
post #496 of 3596
Hi guys first post and new to the forum hope at the right place.Its been a week with 47LM7600 and quite happy with the result. As mentioned earlier can see flashlight when the tv or app starts with black screen but haven't notices that while any video is on.

I have connected my samsung d6500 home theater to hdmi 1 with Arc on tv but still not able to get the local tv sound in home theater speaker..while the blue ray as well as WD live which is connected to hdmi in 1 of home theater is getting the sound from home theater speakers. I did went into sound setting of tv and did ARC on and tv speakers off yet no sound when i stream netflix or youtube directly from TV.For now i dont have cable box so direct streaming from TV is only option to check. Have called LG and samsung guys but no body is able to figure it out. The lg rep told me to get optical cable and that would solve the problem and says your hdmi cable is not arc compatible or 1.4. As far as i know all category 2 hdmi cables are by default ARC compatible and 1.4 correct me if i am wrong. Would really appreciate any help. Really love the Tv dont wanna return just for this reason i still believe i am missing some setting or something wrong.

Also this is my first major tv since old Sanyo series hence know hardly anything about surge protectors. I have47' led + 1000w 5.1ch home theater and down the line would connect cable box as well as xbox. What sort of surge protector do i need any options/suggestions. I was looking and came across 2 Belkin Pivot Plug Surge Protector, 12-Outlet VS MONSTER MP HDP 900G. Any other surge protector or between 2 mentioned which one to go. Thanks in advance hope the sound thing works out soon.Have been playing around for 2 days and still going nowhere.
post #497 of 3596
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Originally Posted by posterus View Post

Hey Guys,

I currently have the 47lm76000 on lay-away at Sears for the $1299 price, however, Sears has now dropped the price for the 47lm67000 to $1000. Just wondering if you guys think the 7600 is worth the $300 premium?

Was planning on perhaps getting it this week and would like to know some opinions.

Thanks in advance

Definitely worth paying the extra 300 for the 7600. I've had the 55 for two weeks now and I absolutely love it.
post #498 of 3596
Has anybody observed during fast moving scenes like car chase or other action if its close up and fast movie you can see that part of screen flickering not exactly getting blurred but you can see different sort of movement which is not smooth. I have the tv now for a week its not always like that but whenever some fast action comes on screen.

Have been seeing them on and off and have kept asking my wife who wont watch so closely while today she was watching the bourne series and 2nd part had many such scenes and she also noticed the same.

Anybody else with same observations??

One of the reason as i came across the thread about 60hz constant and really not able to play on truemotion 240hz.If i am not wrong at 240hz this should not happen. Was on the phone with LG rep for about hour but she dint accepted saying this model does have this problem but at the end trouble shooting scheduled the monday call with lg engineer.
post #499 of 3596
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Originally Posted by sat9090 View Post

Has anybody observed during fast moving scenes like car chase or other action if its close up and fast movie you can see that part of screen flickering not exactly getting blurred but you can see different sort of movement which is not smooth. I have the tv now for a week its not always like that but whenever some fast action comes on screen.

Have been seeing them on and off and have kept asking my wife who wont watch so closely while today she was watching the bourne series and 2nd part had many such scenes and she also noticed the same.

Anybody else with same observations??

One of the reason as i came across the thread about 60hz constant and really not able to play on truemotion 240hz.If i am not wrong at 240hz this should not happen. Was on the phone with LG rep for about hour but she dint accepted saying this model does have this problem but at the end trouble shooting scheduled the monday call with lg engineer.

One of the things I really like about this tv is that I have noticed no motion blur at all. The truemotion I really have no comment for though because I don't use it since I dislike the soap opera effect. If it's only happening while your playing a movie, it may be your cable.
post #500 of 3596
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Originally Posted by 12none View Post

One of the things I really like about this tv is that I have noticed no motion blur at all. The truemotion I really have no comment for though because I don't use it since I dislike the soap opera effect. If it's only happening while your playing a movie, it may be your cable.

Do you mean my cable provider or hdmi cable??.. I am playing the video from WD live or blue ray player and in case that's happening. Also LG rep ask me change the truemotion user setting truemotion->User> jugger =10..the display does not change even if its 5,7 or 10. But when i select between option like clear and clear plus i can see the difference. I love the tv so much hope LG is able to fix the 240hz issue..
post #501 of 3596
Anybody experiencing hdmi connection issues?? I only experience during first time i switch it on at any time of the day. Always shows no signal/no input only way is to keep switching on and off..Can my cable be a issue??
post #502 of 3596
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Originally Posted by sat9090 View Post

Anybody experiencing hdmi connection issues?? I only experience during first time i switch it on at any time of the day. Always shows no signal/no input only way is to keep switching on and off..Can my cable be a issue??

Same with all the ports??? If yes, then it might be your cable issue.
post #503 of 3596
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Originally Posted by hornedbronco View Post

Same with all the ports??? If yes, then it might be your cable issue.

Haven't tried other ports will do now also would different cable..but even then if its constant with all the ports can't be a Tv issue still???
post #504 of 3596
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Originally Posted by bhilimon View Post

My receiver doesn't have HDMI (it's older) so I was planning just feeding all the audio from the TV to minimize the amount of cables. The best thing I seem to get from the TV's optical output (when using a HDMI source) is dolby pro-logic, but no true 5.1 feed. There's almost no options for the optical output, you can only select "PCM" or "auto". I'll try a software update.

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Originally Posted by beelbeel View Post

That's all I get too, and I believe that I have the most up-to-date software. Like I said, however, my receiver is pretty unreliable. I'm actually sending it back next week and having them replace it with a slightly newer model, so I'm hoping that I can run everything through the receiver without any problems after that.

It's amazing that with the amount of money people spend on these types of products, they can't be made in a way that consistently works.


I'm having the same problem too. I have a 55lm6700 though, not this one.

My receiver is about 8 years old, only has 1 toslink input and the rest are analog rca.

I wanted to use the tv as a switch/splitter for my ps3 and xbox but I can't seem to get my receiver to detect a 5.1 signal. It only detects PCM.


Did you guys find a solution for this yet? I'll probably just have to grab a manual toslink switch/splitter
post #505 of 3596
This is my first major tv since old Sanyo series hence know hardly anything about surge protectors. I have47' led + 1000w 5.1ch home theater and down the line would connect cable box as well as xbox. What sort of surge protector do i need any options/suggestions. I was looking and came across 2 Belkin Pivot Plug Surge Protector, 12-Outlet VS MONSTER MP HDP 900G. Any other surge protector or between 2 mentioned which one to go. Thanks in advance
post #506 of 3596
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Originally Posted by sat9090 View Post

Anybody experiencing hdmi connection issues?? I only experience during first time i switch it on at any time of the day. Always shows no signal/no input only way is to keep switching on and off..Can my cable be a issue??

I think that the problem is for sure the HDMI cable....I had the same problem and used another cable and the problem was solved...
post #507 of 3596
fyi if anyone is interested the DirecTV code for this set is 10442.

The TV Input button brings up the the Input screen and cycles through the inputs just doesnt select the input you highlight. not sure if its possible. anyone try this as well?
post #508 of 3596
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Originally Posted by modde239 View Post

I think that the problem is for sure the HDMI cable....I had the same problem and used another cable and the problem was solved...

You don't necessarily need a high priced cable, but you certainly want a high quality cable. Older HDMI cables or "standard" HDMI were not designed for all the new bandwidth video. You want a "high speed" HDMI cable that has support for the ARC (audio return channel) depending on what your reciever supports. If you look at the HDMI connectors on the TV you will see one has an ARC printed on it. The ARC is primarily used to send the audio signal generated by the television when its internal tuner is used, back to the AV receiver, so that you can use your home theater audio system when watching television signals.

If you are trying to use the TV as a HDMI switch rather than the reviever I think you need the ARC to pass the full audio back to the reciever or it will just be "filtered out" by the TV.

This isn't a new problem but it is a issue that is easy to overlook. If you want even more to think about there are some new low-loss HDMI cables for long runs that only function one way. If you connect the cable in reverse it won't work.
post #509 of 3596
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Originally Posted by masterkaj View Post

I'm tired of swapping out sets, its a pain. I am going to be returning my 55LM7600 for a Panasonic 55GT50. The LM7600 is a great set if you don't mind flash-lighting. However, my latest LM7600 I received had a build date of April 2012 and it still had the issue.

It's too bad too, I wanted to love this TV.

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Originally Posted by masterkaj View Post

I don't play any games on my PS3 (maybe madden sometimes, but everything else is on my PC) and only watch Blu-Rays or watch TV, so don't think that will be an issue at all.




I have normal lighting in my room, but can make it very dark if needed. I just cannot stand watching a movie at night on the LM7600.

You're going to love the GT50. Out of the box, the THX Bright Room setting is perfect for daytime and then you have THX Cinema, plus a few others that have a greater ability to make adjustments for your nighttime viewing.

If you do buy it, then please let me know what your impressions are compared to the LM7600 since I'm considering this tv. The only downside of the GT50 IMO are the reflections. However, I don't know that there is a set out there that can block them (tv faces the kitchen) and still have the image that I love as much from the GT50.
post #510 of 3596
Id recommend everyone checkout this recent in depth review of the 9600:

http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/revie...v-full-assault


It gives alot of detailed info about settings/calibrations that may be useful for the 7600.

Interesting in that flashlighting is occurring on the 9600 as well


For starters, LG's local dimming option should be made mandatory with this model. What do we mean by that? To begin with, enabling this feature helps reduce backlight bleeds at the corners as mentioned previously. On the other hand, we also observed that shadow details were compromised as a result when it's set to High. Some call this the 'black crush' phenomenon. Being so, the Medium local dimming selection would be your best bet in obtaining an ideal balance between black levels and picture detail. The TV's Super Resolution feature is critical for DVD playback as well, since it cleans up noise artifacts and sharpens the picture by a fair bit too. To add, motion-tearing was also less apparent (without TruMotion applied) compared to LG's first Cinema 3D Smart TV we've reviewed last year. LG has a new feature called Preferred Color under the TV's Advanced presets with three main options - Skin Color, Grass Color, and Sky Color. The Skin Color is set to "-3" by default, although we feel that a value of "-2" yields the best result.


The LM9600 coasted through DisplayMate and HQV with little mishaps with the exception of its intense backlights which resulted in backlight bleeds at the corners. Thankfully, this drawback can be mitigated by enabling the display's local dimming features.
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