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Originally Posted by tpollagi 
OK, so last night with only a single small lamp in the room for lighting I put in Harry Potter, Half Blood Prince (to entertain some guests) and I find myself out of my normal straigt-on viewing position and sitting to the side at about 35-40 degrees from the panel.
Aweful, awefuuul, awwwwefuullll picture. This movie is very dark and has very little color in it and really showed me how bad the black level on this set is. This was from a standard DVD over HDMI from an average BluRay player that had been set-up with the AVS set up disk. All the other settings had been optimized as well.
The "black" letter-box bars are not black; there is enough light pouring out of the panel that true-black (as guaged by the thin bands of the bezel) is probably 4 steps lower (on a 10 step scale) than what I am getting. Sitting to the side makes everything worse. The off angle viewing from this set is very poor. Not only does the black level get worse but the contrast drops off rapidly since the brightness also drops off.
Movie ends and I switched over to Saturday Night Live from an OTA broadcast in HD. Pow, bright and colorful full screen image that looked great. The angular drop off is still present but not nearly as noticeable on bright image comtent.
The set works great on bright content but you can really see the shortcommings of edge-lit LED/LCD on dark content. If this is an IPS panel then I also have to conclude that IPS is greatly over-rated for superior viewing angle.
Maybe plasma is the only current way to get a better black level and maybe all the LED sets have black-level problems. I'm putting this out there for anyone considering their options. The contrast ratio is high because the brights are VERY bright, not because the blacks are deep.

OK, so last night with only a single small lamp in the room for lighting I put in Harry Potter, Half Blood Prince (to entertain some guests) and I find myself out of my normal straigt-on viewing position and sitting to the side at about 35-40 degrees from the panel.
Aweful, awefuuul, awwwwefuullll picture. This movie is very dark and has very little color in it and really showed me how bad the black level on this set is. This was from a standard DVD over HDMI from an average BluRay player that had been set-up with the AVS set up disk. All the other settings had been optimized as well.
The "black" letter-box bars are not black; there is enough light pouring out of the panel that true-black (as guaged by the thin bands of the bezel) is probably 4 steps lower (on a 10 step scale) than what I am getting. Sitting to the side makes everything worse. The off angle viewing from this set is very poor. Not only does the black level get worse but the contrast drops off rapidly since the brightness also drops off.
Movie ends and I switched over to Saturday Night Live from an OTA broadcast in HD. Pow, bright and colorful full screen image that looked great. The angular drop off is still present but not nearly as noticeable on bright image comtent.
The set works great on bright content but you can really see the shortcommings of edge-lit LED/LCD on dark content. If this is an IPS panel then I also have to conclude that IPS is greatly over-rated for superior viewing angle.
Maybe plasma is the only current way to get a better black level and maybe all the LED sets have black-level problems. I'm putting this out there for anyone considering their options. The contrast ratio is high because the brights are VERY bright, not because the blacks are deep.
Can you post your settings?
I watched a bunch of letterbox videos and they all look great. Also, were the settings calibrated for a bright room?










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