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post #631 of 3596
Well its now been about 2 weeks witht the 55-7600 and I am developing a love / hate relationship with it. Viewed straight-on (or within 10 degrees) a bright image looks really nice. Darker images look good also durring the daytime but begin to suffer at night when the ambient light level drops. Shadow details are just not there and I can't pull them out by re-adjusting.

Skin tones (as a prior poster pointed out) are very hard to get adjusted. Its really strange; the rest of the image looks great but a person's face is washed of detail and color. If you are in this camp I highly suggest turning the energy-saving mode to OFF and re-adjusting with lower backlighting and brightness. This gave me decent faces.

Moving off-angle beyond 25-30 degrees kills the contrast entirely and brings back the "clay-face" and really kills shadow-detail and black-level. I said it in a prior post earlier and I still feel the off-axis PQ is poor.

I think part of the video processing is poorly implemented on this set also. HD content and Blue-Ray / DVD / USB content look great but some SD content looks just aweful. I hooked up my prior Samsung CCFL lit set (5 years old) in the bed-room for comparison. The old Samsung looks much better on ALL the SD content. The 7600 is "antifacty" and gives fuzzy images regardless of how the noise reduction and general settings are dial in. The same signal on the Samsung looks much better.

I picked-up a second unit to see if everyone else was correct and that I just had a bad panel. NOPE, second one was worse. It had flashlighting down the entire right side and not just the top right corner. The bottom left did not have a bright flashlight (like the first one) but about 1 square foot at the bottom left had a giant dull flashlight that was visible at all times. Kinda like a cloud layer the bottom corner of the screen. That one was packed-up and returned.

After skimming through the CNET 6700 review, I have to agree with some of there key observations. To me, the Apps, Smart TV stuff, and 3D is unimportant; my prime concern is PQ. The off-axis contrast wash-out, mediocre black-level, and iff'y processing on SD content is leading me to pack this one up also and return it. I'm just not sure what to replace it with. In the sub $2000 55" thin bezel world there aren't many good options.
post #632 of 3596
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Originally Posted by rwinston View Post


There's no option for that. Under HDTV setup, there's only TV Type (set to 1080i, 1080p is not an option) and Aspect Ratio (16:9).

Output is through HDMI port, of course.

The reason i asked is because another user has troubles displaying dark scenes in 24p. This is on the uk forum. The guy gets corrupted faces and lagging pictures. This is not seen when displaying in 60hz
post #633 of 3596
What are some other lg remotes I can use that are compatible with this set. This wand sucks. When I demoed it in the store it had another regular remote that handled a lot of the basic tv functions but it obviously didn't come with the set.
post #634 of 3596
Hi all,

Did some searching here. Didn't see where anyone posted this so I figured I'd contribute!

I got this TV last week (freaking wow. Upgraded from a 2007 Samsung 1080p LED DLP) and though the magic remote is cool, I wanted the Harmony to work too. The default codes from Logitech controled ALMOST everything (except the Apps/Q.Menu button). This drove me nuts because I had hard drives hooked up to the TV (replaced a WDTV Live) and wanted Netflix to work too.

After figuring out the wand is RF and my Harmony 700 isn't going to learn it, I tried downloading several other LG model TV's remote codes. The first one I found that controled everything I wanted was the LG 60PM7600.

So a helpful tip for anyone out there mad at their Harmony! Enjoy.
post #635 of 3596
Hello, take this from a review of amazon
*****TV doesn't allow fine tuning of 3D mode support. I connected a PC via HDMI but then failed to make TV correctly recognizing frames on the screen: there were always some artifacts due to not precise splitting. So, if you're going to watch 3D movies from a PC storage you'll have to use either a flash drive or a network solution. *****

Is this true? I want this TV to watch 3D movies played from my pc via hdmi connected to tv .. Will I have problems? Anyone here using your pc as 3d player?

Thanks for the help
post #636 of 3596
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Originally Posted by todoendvd View Post

Hello, take this from a review of amazon
*****TV doesn't allow fine tuning of 3D mode support. I connected a PC via HDMI but then failed to make TV correctly recognizing frames on the screen: there were always some artifacts due to not precise splitting. So, if you're going to watch 3D movies from a PC storage you'll have to use either a flash drive or a network solution. *****

Is this true? I want this TV to watch 3D movies played from my pc via hdmi connected to tv .. Will I have problems? Anyone here using your pc as 3d player?

Thanks for the help

On any of the inputs including 3D mode, Media Link if you set to Cinema mode you can fine tune almost all available settings like in ISF1 & ISF2.
post #637 of 3596
cow736 do you using your pc as 3d player, through hdmi as pc monitor?
post #638 of 3596
I haven't connected my comp to the tv, but I downloaded a ton of movies, including about 10 3d ones to a portable hd and it played everyone of them no problem. I was worried at first cause I read the tv wouldn't play divx or xvid files, but it did. The only problem I had was with one 3d movie where I was fast forwarding a lot and it froze. It played that movie, Under the Sea, fine many times before and after that though. I thought the quality would not be as good but it was actually great. I know this does not solve your particular problem, but if you have an extra thumb drive around, just throw the movie on that. I did not have to do any formatting either.
post #639 of 3596
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Originally Posted by pokermadness View Post

I haven't connected my comp to the tv, but I downloaded a ton of movies, including about 10 3d ones to a portable hd and it played everyone of them no problem. I was worried at first cause I read the tv wouldn't play divx or xvid files, but it did. The only problem I had was with one 3d movie where I was fast forwarding a lot and it froze. It played that movie, Under the Sea, fine many times before and after that though. I thought the quality would not be as good but it was actually great. I know this does not solve your particular problem, but if you have an extra thumb drive around, just throw the movie on that. I did not have to do any formatting either.

Is your hard drive formatted to fat32 or ntsf?
post #640 of 3596
Ok...has anybody experienced this with their 7600 series? After watching tv for a few hours, the tv turns itself off and then back on a few seconds later. I am on my third set after flash lighting issues on the first two sets, but this issue occurred on one of the prior sets I had and my current set. I don't have any energy saving settings on or tv timers, it just cycles the power on its own. Is this normal or could it be a feature built in if the tv is overheating or something?
post #641 of 3596
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Originally Posted by surfin3591 View Post

Ok...has anybody experienced this with their 7600 series? After watching tv for a few hours, the tv turns itself off and then back on a few seconds later. I am on my third set after flash lighting issues on the first two sets, but this issue occurred on one of the prior sets I had and my current set. I don't have any energy saving settings on or tv timers, it just cycles the power on its own. Is this normal or could it be a feature built in if the tv is overheating or something?

No, power cycling is not normal. If you are having this problem on a second set, I'm more inclined to think the problem may be with your power. Are you seeing any indication in the rest of your house with momentary power "pops" or voltage drops? If you are plugged in through a power conditioner; it may be failing.
post #642 of 3596
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Originally Posted by tpollagi View Post

No, power cycling is not normal. If you are having this problem on a second set, I'm more inclined to think the problem may be with your power. Are you seeing any indication in the rest of your house with momentary power "pops" or voltage drops? If you are plugged in through a power conditioner; it may be failing.

I don't think it is my power. I have my TV and components all plugged in a Monster Cable surge protector, and I havent had any components or TVs cycle power prior to this new TV. I also read in the 6700 series thread that a few people have had the same thing happen. LG has diagnosed one persons as a faulty power cable/supply in the TV. Others think it may be related to the HDMI because they didn't experience the issue when streaming straight over WiFi to the TV vs. watching an HDMI source. Im not sure what could be the issue. I am just tired of replacing TV's, especially since this 3rd one doesnt have any flashlighting issues. It just arrived from LG on Friday, so it is their latest batch of TVs straight from Korea (or wherever they are made). I've never had these kinds of issues with LG, I have 3 other LG TV's that are great.
post #643 of 3596
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

Is your hard drive formatted to fat32 or ntsf?

No idea. I have a WD My passport 1 tb drive. I literally took it out of the box, copied some movies to it and plugged it into the tv.

To the person with the power issues, I have never had that happen once, and we've had the tv on for 8+ hrs many many times
post #644 of 3596
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Originally Posted by surfin3591 View Post

Ok...has anybody experienced this with their 7600 series? After watching tv for a few hours, the tv turns itself off and then back on a few seconds later. I am on my third set after flash lighting issues on the first two sets, but this issue occurred on one of the prior sets I had and my current set. I don't have any energy saving settings on or tv timers, it just cycles the power on its own. Is this normal or could it be a feature built in if the tv is overheating or something?

Check out the customer comments on Amazon for the LG LM8600 55". Two different buyers report a similar problem on the 8600 similar to yours. Their unit would turn off and restart or they would just lose the signal for a time and it would come back on. Both the 8600 and 7600 share much of the same build. Sounds like it could be a manufactures problem.
post #645 of 3596
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Originally Posted by surfin3591 View Post

I don't think it is my power. I have my TV and components all plugged in a Monster Cable surge protector, and I havent had any components or TVs cycle power prior to this new TV. I also read in the 6700 series thread that a few people have had the same thing happen. LG has diagnosed one persons as a faulty power cable/supply in the TV. Others think it may be related to the HDMI because they didn't experience the issue when streaming straight over WiFi to the TV vs. watching an HDMI source. Im not sure what could be the issue. I am just tired of replacing TV's, especially since this 3rd one doesnt have any flashlighting issues. It just arrived from LG on Friday, so it is their latest batch of TVs straight from Korea (or wherever they are made). I've never had these kinds of issues with LG, I have 3 other LG TV's that are great.

Zero flashlighting???

Do you mind looking the date the TV was manufactured. I'm trying to determine if LG has finally fixed the flashlighting problem.

Although the power cycle problem is just as bad.
post #646 of 3596
What settings is everyone using to minimize flashlighting? I feel like no matter how much I play with the local dimming, in any movie with letterbox the letterbox is not a deep black. Almost like a reflective black. This is on 2d blu rays in a dark room. I do not want to return it to the store I purchased it from because of issues I am having with them but I may make a call to lg. I just wondered what everyone else's settings were like for local dimming, gamma, dynamic contrast, dynamics color, energy savings mode, anything that could reduce the bleeding. I have already turned the backlight down to 50
post #647 of 3596
I am getting this tv delivered today. I hope I get a good one.
post #648 of 3596
You will not find a flashlighting free edge led tv....its just the way it is....
post #649 of 3596
I understand that but this set has way worse than any of the 4 Sony sets I have ever owned that were all edge lit

Edit: didn't you previously post in here saying your set was in fact flashlight free?
post #650 of 3596
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

I understand that but this set has way worse than any of the 4 Sony sets I have ever owned that were all edge lit

Edit: didn't you previously post in here saying your set was in fact flashlight free?

You are right I did just when I got my tv....rarely I see some flashlighting in the right hand corner....thats for me no problem....I just know its inherent to this kind of tv system....nobody will find a 100% flashlighting free edge led tv.....
post #651 of 3596
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You are right I did just when I got my tv....rarely I see some flashlighting in the right hand corner....thats for me no problem....I just know its inherent to this kind of tv system....nobody will find a 100% flashlighting free edge led tv.....

Yeah like I said I'm not expecting flashlight free. My sonys had flashlighting but it was uniform. I can seem to eliminate the "bleeding" on my set by turning on the energy saving option and playing with local dimming but I cannot seem to get the letterbox completely black like I had on my sonys. I really feel it is something that I can maybe achieve with some fine tuning of settings. You mind sharing with me what features you have on or off and I can see if that helps
post #652 of 3596
the main reason Ive been playing panel roulette with the 7600 is that the BestBuy display model was 100% flashlight free. Ive spent hours in front of it, checking settings, inputs, putting my face up against it. Nothing. Absolutely dark blacks all the way to the edge.

Now Im wondering if these are display on purpose so that customers will buy them?

If so, why not make all the sets like the display? I dont get it.
The only other explanations are pure luck that the display was flawless or that since its been on continuously for 2 months that this is actually something that burn-in fixes?
post #653 of 3596
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Originally Posted by jeffro23 View Post

the main reason Ive been playing panel roulette with the 7600 is that the BestBuy display model was 100% flashlight free. Ive spent hours in front of it, checking settings, inputs, putting my face up against it. Nothing. Absolutely dark blacks all the way to the edge.

Now Im wondering if these are display on purpose so that customers will buy them?

If so, why not make all the sets like the display? I dont get it.
The only other explanations are pure luck that the display was flawless or that since its been on continuously for 2 months that this is actually something that burn-in fixes?

Simple you have seen the tv in a store with lights on than you will not see flashlighting....only in a dark room and specialy with letterbox bars you will see them....
post #654 of 3596
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

Yeah like I said I'm not expecting flashlight free. My sonys had flashlighting but it was uniform. I can seem to eliminate the "bleeding" on my set by turning on the energy saving option and playing with local dimming but I cannot seem to get the letterbox completely black like I had on my sonys. I really feel it is something that I can maybe achieve with some fine tuning of settings. You mind sharing with me what features you have on or off and I can see if that helps

Every tv is different but my settings are:
Energy Saving: off.
Backlight:55
Contrast: 85
Brightness: 50
H-Sharpness: 25
V-Sharpness: 25
colour: 45
Colour Temp.: medium.
Local dimming:daytime (low) night (medium).
TruMotion: off.
Dynamic Contrast: off.
Super Resolution: off.
Colour Gamut: standard.
Edge Enhancer: off.
Noise Reduction: off.
MEPG Noise Red.: off.
Black Level: low.
Real Cinema: off.

Thats about it.....
post #655 of 3596
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Originally Posted by modde239 View Post


Every tv is different but my settings are:
Energy Saving: off.
Backlight:55
Contrast: 85
Brightness: 50
H-Sharpness: 25
V-Sharpness: 25
colour: 45
Colour Temp.: medium.
Local dimming:daytime (low) night (medium).
TruMotion: off.
Dynamic Contrast: off.
Super Resolution: off.
Colour Gamut: standard.
Edge Enhancer: off.
Noise Reduction: off.
MEPG Noise Red.: off.
Black Level: low.
Real Cinema: off.

Thats about it.....

I will give those a try. Is this in expert?
post #656 of 3596
Hi everyone! First time writing here. I'm planning to buy this TV (or 6700). Earlier I read somewhere that LG advertised these models to be able to transfer pic to tablet or phone. That could be really useful when watching a game and you have to go to restroom, you just continue watching
Has anyone tried this option, or at least know it is possible?
post #657 of 3596
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

I will give those a try. Is this in expert?

Yes...
post #658 of 3596
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

I will give those a try. Is this in expert?

Those are in expert. I like a little brighter picture, and I prefer the color temp to be medium, and even sometimes cool(but rarely). When I got this tv about a month ago, almost all the calibrations said to have the color temp on warm. I could not get the picture to how I really liked it til I went to medium. Try that out. I had a bit of flashlighting, the worst was in the upper right corner, but after a month and playing with the settings, I never notice it anymore. Maybe I got the settings right, or it just got better with time? Also with medium color temp, you can lower the backlight and brightness settings, so maybe that plays a role. Either way, this is a bad ass tv IMO, and I just love it.
post #659 of 3596
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Originally Posted by surfin3591 View Post

I don't think it is my power. I have my TV and components all plugged in a Monster Cable surge protector, and I havent had any components or TVs cycle power prior to this new TV. I also read in the 6700 series thread that a few people have had the same thing happen. LG has diagnosed one persons as a faulty power cable/supply in the TV. Others think it may be related to the HDMI because they didn't experience the issue when streaming straight over WiFi to the TV vs. watching an HDMI source. Im not sure what could be the issue. I am just tired of replacing TV's, especially since this 3rd one doesnt have any flashlighting issues. It just arrived from LG on Friday, so it is their latest batch of TVs straight from Korea (or wherever they are made). I've never had these kinds of issues with LG, I have 3 other LG TV's that are great.

I had it ones I found out that it was because in the menu under "TIME" then under "Automatic Standby" it was set at 6 hours....so the tv shut itself off....so check if its set to off on your tv....
post #660 of 3596
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Originally Posted by modde239 View Post

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Originally Posted by jeffro23 View Post

the main reason Ive been playing panel roulette with the 7600 is that the BestBuy display model was 100% flashlight free. Ive spent hours in front of it, checking settings, inputs, putting my face up against it. Nothing. Absolutely dark blacks all the way to the edge.

Now Im wondering if these are display on purpose so that customers will buy them?

If so, why not make all the sets like the display? I dont get it.
The only other explanations are pure luck that the display was flawless or that since its been on continuously for 2 months that this is actually something that burn-in fixes?


Simple you have seen the tv in a store with lights on than you will not see flashlighting....only in a dark room and specialy with letterbox bars you will see them....

lol, nah that set did NOT have it. It was on a back wall that wasnt exactly lit up.

Ive spent 2 months with 2 different sets and Ive visited that damn display model way too much than I care to admit. Even the 1 BB TV guy who actually knew something about it didnt see the effect and we tried every possible source and setting.
After the bad effects Ive had to stare at the last 60 days, Im confident this one somehow didnt have it.

interesting though in my last 7600 I tried loosening and tightening the back panel screws(as mentioned by another poster) I actually noticed a darkeing right at the screw spot, but then wondered if it got lighter in between screw slots. Anyways, I stopped messing with it. just curious if its a hardware/mfr issue where there isnt enough even pressure across the back panel??
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