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post #301 of 997
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Originally Posted by Jay1 View Post

I agree about Axiom, but how is Polk overrated? The Monitor series is dirt cheap, what do you expect for build quality? At least they have real crossovers and not just a cap on the tweeters with the woofers full range. Other then the Tsi series, quality goes up with price, and nothing is outrageous.

Kind of what I was thinking when I read his post. I didn't comment because I couldn't tell if he was being serious. Polk to me, is like any other speaker company. Their entry level stuff is average, and as you step up they have very nice speakers. I'm not sure what he's basing his opinion on.

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Originally Posted by Riffmeister View Post

All wire is the same so get it from Home Depot

Can't tell if you're really serious, but in my opinion, and from what I've read on these forums, most people's opinion is that wire is wire.
post #302 of 997
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Originally Posted by Raymond Leggs View Post

People dont realize how overated polk audio and axiom speakers are dont even get me started on carat hifi gear its nothing but normal entry level kit with a shiny faceplate and a big price, beyound the faceplate and you see the corners cut, the inside and case
is no different than the huge Sony raxck system at ly local rent a center.

While I am not a big fan of Polk - The build quality is OK, and is
average with the rest. The Polk Monitor/TSi build quality, will hold
its own with a few of the so called popular name brands, and even
is better than some old JBL entry level speakers. They have more in
their crossover than some old Paradigm Atoms, and old PSB Alpha.

Sony had a decent series a while back, that was a nice step up from
their mass market entry level speakers. It was their SS-KED series
speakers. The build quality was decent, with a real crossover and they
put nice foam damping inside. I liked them more than the Monitor/TSi
series.
Picture of SS-K10ED, SS-K30ED and SS-K70ED with curved cabinets
post #303 of 997
Thread Starter 
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post #304 of 997
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Originally Posted by drewTT View Post

LOL...check out what they say about their speaker cables.



http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Clea...fo/HELIX-PLUS/


Hey, you shouldn't knock cable break-in. I'm using 100% bonded/spliced coat hangers with authentic 50% blended Teflon coating.

I've been breaking them in for 3 years now and I'm almost there.



I've skipped a couple of pages, has anyone mentioned blu dots yet?
post #305 of 997
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Originally Posted by postrokfan View Post


I haven't listened to the 550C personally but it seems to be a well regarded player.

I've never heard it, either. I'm just a skeptic about fancy cd players and mods.

-Max
post #306 of 997
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

String theory is a trip too

Is string theory REALLY a theory at all? It is just as falsifiable as Intelligent Design...
post #307 of 997
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Originally Posted by gtpsuper24 View Post

Just a quick example is the M60 midrange that breaks up at high freqs. They show a nice looking graph using LMS and caps the high freq response to 2k and say see we told you theres no breakup, but yet its above 2k that it starts breaking up and theres no filter from stopping it.


There is blood dripping from your eyes again.
post #308 of 997
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Originally Posted by chashint View Post

Another that I really hate is the "Chevy is better than Ford" myth

But Chevy Trucks are Apocolypse Proof, Ford trucks are not, as poor Dave found out:

http://www.2012delusion.com/mayan-ca...e-proof-truck/
post #309 of 997
^^^
No matter what truck you drive, that was / is a great commercial.
post #310 of 997
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

There is blood dripping from your eyes again.

Don't know what your problem is with me? How about instead of calling names or just making worthless cry baby posts you actually response to what I said. We are talking about myths in the audio industry that tick us off. I have no problem with people who like Axiom or own Axiom products. The big myth here is how Axiom makes up their own science and standards and hides behind their marketing.

By the way I have alot of experience with Axiom products and have spent alot of my hard earned money on their speakers, so I have every right to say what ever the hell I want to say. I haven't been rude to you or anyone else, or done personal attacks, so how about you not bother responing to my posts please.

I've owned:
2 pair of M2s, 1 pair of M22s, VP150 center, 1 pair M3s, 1 pair old M40 towers, and a EP175. Also demoed for about 2 wks, QS4s and a EP350.
post #311 of 997
the atttitude that anything that costs less than X amount of money is automaticaly junk
post #312 of 997
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Originally Posted by Raymond Leggs View Post

the atttitude that anything that costs less than X amount of money is automaticaly junk

One man's junk is another's treasure.
post #313 of 997
+1^

Although another attitude is that that if it cost more than X amount of money its not worth it.
post #314 of 997
Found this on Audiogon

DakiOm FB stabilizer HA263 + lamp cords, DBT-proven BETTER than ALL fancy hi-end SPK Cables, Period.

(A lengthy post, be warned) - http://app.audiogon.com/listings/dak...dbt-proven-bet

Here's the link to DakiOm, http://www.dakiom.com/
post #315 of 997
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Originally Posted by MrEastSide View Post

Kind of what I was thinking when I read his post. I didn't comment because I couldn't tell if he was being serious. Polk to me, is like any other speaker company. Their entry level stuff is average, and as you step up they have very nice speakers. I'm not sure what he's basing his opinion on.

I own Polk LSi9, not the best speakers in the world but quite good for the difficult space I wanted to pump music to, the best of several that I auditioned. As far as build quality, each speaker is 33lbs. While there may be superfluous materials I kind of doubt it. The Polk forum is very active, and I see tons of posts recommending their Monitors as good entry level HT speakers. While I'm not a fan, kudos to Polk (and other manufacturers like them) for allowing those on a budget to enjoy their systems.

I'm thinking he and Peace Maker both purchased an $8000 HDMI cable
post #316 of 997
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Originally Posted by Riffmeister View Post

[*]All wire is the same so get it from Home Depot[*]If someone is an engineer or works in the AV industry, then he is an expert on audio

Well, Home Depot wire is just as good as audiophile wire and while being an engineer does not make someone an audio expert it should give them an advantage when it comes to actually understanding how the audio electronics works.
post #317 of 997
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Originally Posted by chashint View Post

Well, Home Depot wire is just as good as audiophile wire and while being an engineer does not make someone an audio expert it should give them an advantage when it comes to actually understanding how the audio electronics works.

Unless you're an Acoustical Engineer, which by definition means you're an audio expert. And being an Acoustical Engineer I can say that as far as Mapleshade is concerned either none work there or the one that does must spend 3/4s of his day pissing himself laughing that anyone would actually buy the junk that they peddle.
post #318 of 997
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

Unless you're an Acoustical Engineer, which by definition means you're an audio expert. And being an Acoustical Engineer I can say that as far as Mapleshade is concerned either none work there or the one that does must spend 3/4s of his day pissing himself laughing that anyone would actually buy the junk that they peddle.

You're an Acoustical Engineer?

That's awesome!!!
post #319 of 997
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Originally Posted by Monkish54 View Post

You're an Acoustical Engineer?

That's awesome!!!

Bill Fitzmaurice has designed some pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/
post #320 of 997
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jay1 View Post


Bill Fitzmaurice has designed some pretty impressive stuff.

http://www.billfitzmaurice.com/

I didn't realize we had a celebrity in this thread! How exciting! (: Good thing I was nice!

I'll have to check out some of that stuff!

How's the Acoustical Engineer business? Lol
post #321 of 997
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

Found this on Audiogon

Audiogon is the best place to sell snake oil. 90% of the members there need serious help with their "audiophile" disease.
post #322 of 997
There's a lot of snobbishness in audio, especially with speakers. What ticks me off is people bashing speakers they haven't heard. I think very few people have really heard a large range of speakers in conditions that are comparable (same room, same audio setup etc).

This forum is not really that bad for it, but there's plenty of other forums on the web where you mention anything costing less than a grand for a pair of bookshelves and you get crucified for it. White van, crappy, blah blah blah
The sad thing being is people getting so focused on getting the absolute perfect sound... is that midtone slightly muddy or is that upper too bright that they forget to actually enjoy the music..
post #323 of 997
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Originally Posted by lulimet View Post

Audiogon is the best place to sell snake oil. 90% of the members there need serious help with their "audiophile" disease.

The person who posted that ad just rants and rants. I have no idea what he's trying to say.
post #324 of 997
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Originally Posted by matteos View Post

There's a lot of snobbishness in audio, especially with speakers. What ticks me off is people bashing speakers they haven't heard. I think very few people have really heard a large range of speakers in conditions that are comparable (same room, same audio setup etc).

This forum is not really that bad for it, but there's plenty of other forums on the web where you mention anything costing less than a grand for a pair of bookshelves and you get crucified for it. White van, crappy, blah blah blah
The sad thing being is people getting so focused on getting the absolute perfect sound... is that midtone slightly muddy or is that upper too bright that they forget to actually enjoy the music..

Dude, you should check out Telescopes groups. ESPECIALLY when you get people claiming wavefront error to 3 decimal places. Or you should check out my neighbor who doesn't like my Audio system in the Observatory because I like rock.n.roll late at night

Anyway, I KNOW that staggering my speaker wires through the studs gives me great highs and lows
post #325 of 997
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Originally Posted by Bill Fitzmaurice View Post

Where snake oil is concerned breaking in electronics is one of the less obvious scams, especially when stuff like this actually gets sold:
http://www.machinadynamica.com/index.html

Brilliant, thanks for the laugh... That guy is clearly taking the piss

"Our New Product!!The Quantum Temple Bell is an extensively treated Feng Shui Tibetan hand bell that improves audio and video quality when it is rung in "strategic locations" around the room; these strategic locations are identified in our instructions for the bell. The bell operates by mind-matter interaction as opposed to affecting acoustic waves in the room..."
post #326 of 997
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Originally Posted by tomandbeth View Post

Dude, you should check out Telescopes groups. ESPECIALLY when you get people claiming wavefront error to 3 decimal places. Or you should check out my neighbor who doesn't like my Audio system in the Observatory because I like rock.n.roll late at night

Anyway, I KNOW that staggering my speaker wires through the studs gives me great highs and lows

I hope you are bi wiring with the wires to the tweeter running 5 feet higher than the wires to the woofer. It gives clearer definition between the highs and lows.
post #327 of 997
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Originally Posted by Ovation View Post

I can usually tell the difference between vinyl and CD but it'a NOT because the latter is "lossy". It's because most vinyl is not pristine. If anything, vinyl, with its lesser dynamic range, is "lossy" relative to CD (though as long as the master has less dynamic range than either CD or vinyl, neither one is "lossy").

I thought we were supposed to expose myths, not perpetuate them.

I had several half speed mastered albums and they definitely had much more range than the average cd.
post #328 of 997
I spent 3k on my mains, at the time my dealer was trying to talk me into some $1,600.00 speaker cable that was 8ft my system does not set close to speakers about 20ft of wire. he suggested that I buy two Bryston amps put them in the rafters in my basement so the cable would reach. lol he was kidding right?
I'm no genius but D/C current runs abound the wire, the more strands of wire the more paths it can take. but you bind them to a solid post right? (bottle neck)
post #329 of 997
"Dirty power" and the need to clean it and regenerate it.
post #330 of 997
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

"Dirty power" and the need to clean it and regenerate it.

Somehow Karl Rove comes to mind. OK, nevermind!
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