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post #91 of 106
I found one of his threads by chance the other night then got to then end and read what happened. Truly saddened by the whole thing. Is there anyway to donate to the family?
post #92 of 106
Ah man... I am going to miss his video's of the ceiling fan being shaken loose from the IB array.

From PM's with him:

Originally Posted by kryptonitewhite
nope not staying in audio, right now looking to sell the subs and amp as a package deal

That sucks Kryton... Wish you would hang around. Always got a kick out of the ceiling fan bouncing around.


take care,

Mark


This is the truly sad part in retrospective:

I'll keep ya in mind and thanks for the kind words Mark!
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KW, failed super hero


I don't know if that was premonition but man...
post #93 of 106
I wish I could share some of the PM's we shared. Some of the PM's, as was his style, were deeply personal.

He's missed.
post #94 of 106
Just use this as an reminder, you are NOT the most important person in your life. The people (kids) that depend upon you , are more inmportant.

Don't think for one second, that the people that look up to you would be better off without you...

The easy way out is to end your pain, but what's worse, one persons pain, or 10?

You cannot fathom the pain from the ones left behind, so quit being selfish and deal..
post #95 of 106
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Originally Posted by Audiophile34 View Post

Just use this as an reminder, you are NOT the most important person in your life. The people (kids) that depend upon you , are more inmportant.

Don't think for one second, that the people that look up to you would be better off without you...

The easy way out is to end your pain, but what's worse, one persons pain, or 10?

You cannot fathom the pain from the ones left behind, so quit being selfish and deal..

I don't want to turn this into a debate. Not the place for it. But having been to as dark a place I know what it can do to you. And any time you are dealing with a seriously depressed person there is a level of psychosis. Your brain chemistry goes nuts and rational thought goes right out the window. Sure for us who are not in that head space your argument is rational. For him perhaps he thought those who loved him would have suffered less and been better off with him gone. Just something to think about. A person who kills themselves is not in a state of mind where logic reigns supreme and we all could stand to be more empathetic to understand why such devastating acts like this happen. Empathy goes a long way. More so then judgement or condemnation ever will.

I get where you are coming from. I've just lived on both sides. And again not trying to stir up controversy or start a debate. I just want people to really open their minds to the thought that this kind of pain doesn't make you do smart or responsible things.

And for kryptos memory I hope we all are compassionate and respectful as we continue to live on and try to understand and empathize.

Food for thought. And I sincerely wish everyone the best.

Matt
post #96 of 106
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Originally Posted by Steve_Vai_rules View Post

I don't want to turn this into a debate. Not the place for it. But having been to as dark a place I know what it can do to you. And any time you are dealing with a seriously depressed person there is a level of psychosis. Your brain chemistry goes nuts and rational thought goes right out the window. Sure for us who are not in that head space your argument is rational. For him perhaps he thought those who loved him would have suffered less and been better off with him gone. Just something to think about. A person who kills themselves is not in a state of mind where logic reigns supreme and we all could stand to be more empathetic to understand why such devastating acts like this happen. Empathy goes a long way. More so then judgement or condemnation ever will.

I get where you are coming from. I've just lived on both sides. And again not trying to stir up controversy or start a debate. I just want people to really open their minds to the thought that this kind of pain doesn't make you do smart or responsible things.

And for kryptos memory I hope we all are compassionate and respectful as we continue to live on and try to understand and empathize.

Food for thought. And I sincerely wish everyone the best.

Matt

I agree 100%. Until you've been on both sides than all I will say is its easier said than done.
post #97 of 106
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Originally Posted by Steve_Vai_rules View Post

I don't want to turn this into a debate. Not the place for it. But having been to as dark a place I know what it can do to you. And any time you are dealing with a seriously depressed person there is a level of psychosis. Your brain chemistry goes nuts and rational thought goes right out the window. Sure for us who are not in that head space your argument is rational. For him perhaps he thought those who loved him would have suffered less and been better off with him gone. Just something to think about. A person who kills themselves is not in a state of mind where logic reigns supreme and we all could stand to be more empathetic to understand why such devastating acts like this happen. Empathy goes a long way. More so then judgement or condemnation ever will.

I get where you are coming from. I've just lived on both sides. And again not trying to stir up controversy or start a debate. I just want people to really open their minds to the thought that this kind of pain doesn't make you do smart or responsible things.

And for kryptos memory I hope we all are compassionate and respectful as we continue to live on and try to understand and empathize.

Food for thought. And I sincerely wish everyone the best.

Matt

Wow Matt, well put. Many time i dont read both sides of view in one reply, you have really said it the way it is. You acknowledged one side and replied with your thoughts... Thinking about all the solutions i have used in my life , Krypto was in a dark place, i'm sure the things keeping him company there were'nt rational thinking and reason. Probably why we feel helpless, any one of us would have kicked all their ass's out in a minute !!!!

So long again audio friend.
post #98 of 106
Extremely well put! Thats all that needs to be said if one has the ability to empathize then they understood everything you wrote as well.
post #99 of 106
I think you are all missing the point. He was bi polar and it was an illness he suffered for a long time so there is no need to go down the road off someone taking the easy way out. Just to put things straight. I spoke to his mum on facebook and confirmed this.
post #100 of 106
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Originally Posted by gperkins1973 View Post

I think you are all missing the point. He was bi polar and it was an illness he suffered for a long time so there is no need to go down the road off someone taking the easy way out. Just to put things straight. I spoke to his mum on facebook and confirmed this.

And with bipolar disorder comes the potential for depressive episodes and neurochemical imbalances leading to psychosis or irrational or reactionary behaviour. It's a terrible disease. And not always easily managed even with potent medication. I figured he was bipolar or similar due to the manic nature of his posts.

Depression usually isn't a disease unto itself but a symptom of a larger problem. In this case Jordan's depression was magnified (who knows by how much) to the point where he felt utterly hopeless.

Either way. I don't need to be all clinical and analytical. He was our friend and brother. And regardless of what drove him to do what he did him being gone will have a tragic and profound effect on everyone who knew him. Also whatever those demons he had we should continue to cherish his memory, learn from his mistakes, and love those around us even more. If there is one good thing in all this I see a group of guys brought together by this tragedy. Rarely do we share such a frank discussion filled with pain and suffering without resorting to childish antics (I too can be blamed for this) and in fighting. His death has brought us all closer together. And for Jordan to do something to bring us all together that is special.

Anyways. Just waxing poetic and trying to share my thoughts on the subject without (for a change) stirring things up too much.

Peace brothers.

Matt
post #101 of 106
Thanks Matt. Well said.
post #102 of 106
I'd share a beer with you any day Matt, i like how you put things.. KG
post #103 of 106
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Originally Posted by gperkins1973 View Post

I think you are all missing the point. He was bi polar and it was an illness he suffered for a long time so there is no need to go down the road off someone taking the easy way out. Just to put things straight. I spoke to his mum on facebook and confirmed this.

Have to strongly disagree. What Matt wrote made as much sense as one could make without it being written in a doctor's dictation.
post #104 of 106
Well written matt.
post #105 of 106
Thanks guys.



Matt
post #106 of 106
As soon as you begin to comprehend that depression can be (and many times is) a physical condition, you can begin to understand that some forms of it- not at all unlike like some cancers- are all but impossible to effectively treat- never mind cure. I thank my expert wife for teaching me a ton in that regard.

As for my personal thought: I'm going to try to use this tragedy as a bit of a wake up call for me. While I never said anything particularly egregious, I will admit that I didn't take as kindly to many of the threads that seemed to reiterate the same ideas and thoughts over and over. Unfortunately, one of the hallmarks of someone suffering from REAL, serious BP.

Damn me for being so intolerant and aloof to feel such disdain for harmless threads that I could have easily passed over and spent my time elsewhere. Bit embarrassing, really.

So then, I guess I'd suggest that we ALL just try to be more tolerant, forgiving, and pliable around here.

The Golden Rule rules...like always.

Just gutted over this for his family and friends. My personal belief is that the pain- no matter its emanation, is gone.

James
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