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post #31 of 40
3/28/12 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by dan4081 View Post

many posters on the XBMC forums are using Windows 7 and XBMC on 32gb SDD's and reporting that they have plenty of room left over.

They also love building new systems with Athlons and GeForce 210 video cards and report that that's the perfect setup.
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post #32 of 40
3/28/12 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by lockdown571 View Post

I'm not sure why people are so against 32 gb ssd's here. I use a 32 gb in my HTPC and it's perfectly fine. I recently upgraded to Win 8 64-bit and it takes up 15-16 gb, which leaves plenty of room for a few programs. I can't remember how much room Win 7 used. I think it was slightly more.

I'm sure it CAN be done, but that's different than whether it SHOULD be done. First, you can't fill it up to 31 GB and then say "see, it all fits." Windows really doesn't like being cramped. You can have a mess if it runs out of room. If you don't intend to ever add, change or try anything after your initial set up you'd probably be fine. How many of us do that?

Second, it's simply not cost effective. You can buy 60 GB drives for basically the same price as smaller ones because for the most part the manufacturers aren't making smaller ones. It's like a year ago when a 500GB hard disk cost $59 and a 2TB cost $69. Why would you buy the 500GB?

And it's quickly getting to the point where 60 GB won't be cost effective in comparision to 120s eithers. And, as a side benefit, the larger drives are faster.
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post #33 of 40
3/28/12 at 8:46am
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I'm sure it CAN be done, but that's different than whether it SHOULD be done. First, you can't fill it up to 31 GB and then say "see, it all fits." Windows really doesn't like being cramped. You can have a mess if it runs out of room. If you don't intend to ever add, change or try anything after your initial set up you'd probably be fine. How many of us do that?

Second, it's simply not cost effective. You can buy 60 GB drives for basically the same price as smaller ones because for the most part the manufacturers aren't making smaller ones. It's like a year ago when a 500GB hard disk cost $59 and a 2TB cost $69. Why would you buy the 500GB?

And it's quickly getting to the point where 60 GB won't be cost effective in comparision to 120s eithers. And, as a side benefit, the larger drives are faster.

I didn't realize the price difference was so low. If there's little difference, then go for it! It's just my experience that most programs for your average HTPC, with the exception of games, are quite small. The speed difference is pretty trivial too. My 32 gb SSD boots windows 8 in about 13 seconds for instance. But like I said, I was assuming there was a bigger price difference. Of course, more is always better
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post #34 of 40
3/28/12 at 8:50am
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I didn't realize the price difference was so low. If there's little difference, then go for it! It's just my experience that most programs for your average HTPC, with the exception of games, are quite small. The speed difference is pretty trivial too. My 32 gb SSD boots windows 8 in about 13 seconds for instance. But like I said, I was assuming there was a bigger price difference. Of course, more is always better

If you are near a Fry's they have Patriot 32gb SSD's for $29 this week.
In store only, no shipping.
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post #35 of 40
3/28/12 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by Zon2020 View Post

They also love building new systems with Athlons and GeForce 210 video cards and report that that's the perfect setup.

I have Win7 rig with XBMC, Hulu Desktop, Firefox, & Slingplayer and have plenty enough space fore XBMC to store catalog data for over 1,000 movies and 35,000 songs.

Not saying its for everyone but it certainly works fine if you goal is to run a minimal XBMC rig. If you dont need the space for some reason having extra empty free space doesn't accomplishes much.

I still have 5G free. If I were building a system for general purpose use I would never consider it. Nor would I consider using my ION HTPC for anything other than XBMC.

As usual, the answer depends on your needs and application and there is no one size fits all answer.
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post #36 of 40
3/28/12 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by dan4081 View Post

Just a FYI...many posters on the XBMC forums are using Windows 7 and XBMC on 32gb SDD's and reporting that they have plenty of room left over.
I just ordered a 60gb Patriot for my box just because there wasnt much price difference over a 32gb...it was $85 shipped and there is a $25 mail in rebate making it $59 final price. (Newegg)
Plus the patriot was well reviewed.

I didn't find that thread on the XBMC forums but, as I said 32-bit Windows is only 16GB which is confirmed with JDiskReport but the User Folder is what causes the mushroom in size, currently 19GB.

16GB + 19GB = 35GB

Throw in some random files and programs and final size is 40GB. XBMC and MCM likely brought up Program size to 1GB total, give or take.

This is why when 32GB and 60GB were over $100 that Maximum PC went through the trouble to telling you how to move certain folders and create symbolic links.

There is a $5-$10 price difference between 32GB and 60GB SSD's that I have seen.

So the plan is a 60-64GB on the HTPC and 120-128GB on the laptop. I could put a 64GB on the laptop but I have find all the files that taking up the room on here....

Stay tuned...
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post #37 of 40
3/28/12 at 7:08pm
That sounds about right. I just reinstalled Windows 7, added my usual programs (nothing too big) and with page file on and hibernate off I'm using 29GB.
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post #38 of 40
3/28/12 at 7:28pm
30gb is pushing it. THough you have really trim down on the install and squeeze it on there. Opt for a 60gb, or at least a 40gb
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post #39 of 40
3/28/12 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Hank_the_Tank View Post

30gb is pushing it. THough you have really trim down on the install and squeeze it on there. Opt for a 60gb, or at least a 40gb

For a 32GB I would recommend a fresh install over migration. Use Audit Mode to move User Profile and setup downloads to another drive (after setting Audit Mode, shutdown, connect second/third/fourth drive/etc, and boot back into Audit Mode which happens automagically).

Yes its tight, I figure after SP1 and updates, its likely close to 20GB with no Page File, Hibernate and System Restore at 1% of disk space. By default Windows set SR to I think 5% of hard drive size for Restore. Having it at the min likely means it only keeps 1/2/3 restore points and not much more and really do you need ten or more?

I also have WHS 2011 which all media files and some long term documents will be kept from here on out, so local disk on either machine is not that important.

The truth is on the laptop 64GB will be tight, it would leave roughly 20GB of space and while I have problems with Remote Access, I won't consider anything smaller than 120GB.

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Originally Posted by StinDaWg View Post

That sounds about right. I just reinstalled Windows 7, added my usual programs (nothing too big) and with page file on and hibernate off I'm using 29GB.

W7 32-bit or 64-bit?

Final install size before updates and all that, typical 32 bit install is 16-20GB and 64-bit is around 20-30GB.
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post #40 of 40
3/29/12 at 2:16am
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