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post #1141 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

Browni you get black bars with Full Pixel or Normal Pixel engaged it dont matter because its in the source material. The only way around it that I know of is useing the Zoom feature on the tv. But if you do that then you lose alot of the picutre.

The Oppo 103s zoom features are excellent. I don't use them, but a few in the ES8000 thread with 55s love it especially the 1.2X zoom which increases the size to fill the screen slightly more without losing any detail to the picture (obviously you are losing some picture on the sides).
post #1142 of 1878
I'm watching U of M/MSU game and full is filling the whole screen and normal has the black bars on the side
post #1143 of 1878
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

The Oppo 103s zoom features are excellent. I don't use them, but a few in the ES8000 thread with 55s love it especially the 1.2X zoom which increases the size to fill the screen slightly more without losing any detail to the picture (obviously you are losing some picture on the sides).


I would do anything to own an Oppo Chris but the price right now is out of my ballpark. All I can say is.....someday.

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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

I'm watching U of M/MSU game and full is filling the whole screen and normal has the black bars on the side


What channel are you watching Browni? If its any of the ESPN channels I dont have any black bars and its on Normal.
post #1144 of 1878
CBS...but all ESPN channels do the same
post #1145 of 1878
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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

CBS...but all ESPN channels do the same

Must be something your cable/satellite company does to its feeds as I have no black bars when toggling between full pixel and normal on those channels.
post #1146 of 1878
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Must be something your cable/satellite company does to its feeds as I have no black bars when toggling between full pixel and normal on those channels.

+1
post #1147 of 1878
I'm not sure what I did, but after trying the AVS disc, and adjusting settings more, I got the TV brighter and more to my liking. It is MUCH better, and its pretty close to where the W5100 looks . Maybe a little more tweaking, then again, it might be close enough now that I just stop and enjoy it.

On a side note, when I got the TV thursday at the Sony Store, the glasses were Buy One Get One but with 2 free pairs included, and thinking I wouldn't do 3d stuff, I didn't get any more. I also decided to THINK about the extended warranty rather than get it right then/there. Well, I decided yesterday to get the warranty since it wasn't that much for a little more protection, I also figured since I was going I might as well get two more glasses if they had the BOGO deal. They did. So I asked for the warranty and 2 pairs of glasses. When rang it up, the glasses were FREE!! So I managed to get a total of 4 pairs of the TDGBR250/B glasses free. I went back later and got another pair on the BOGO deal (for six pairs in all).

3d from the cable box (comcast) looks pretty neat. (watched the Amazing Spider Man and Finding Nemo). Now I guess I have to consider a 3d bluray player at some point.
post #1148 of 1878
Ok now I need to go see my eye doctor. Last night before the Walking Dead started, which is an awsome series I may add, my wife and I were going back and fourth about Full Pixel and Normal. She suggested that I put my tv on Full Pixel and leave it for awhile to see if I notice any differences. Well I did and you know what I noticed the differences and how much better the PQ looked overall. Now my eyes could be playing tricks on me but the picture seemed to be more detailed and sharper then when its set on Normal and maybe thats because I am useing Full Pixel? I dont know but once again the wife was right and I was wrong and I hate admiting when she is right! lol So now my tv is set at glorious Full Pixel and I am loving it. I guess this HT hobby is rubbing off on my wife now and I dont know if thats a good thing or a bad thing.......oh no!!!!! eek.gif


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post #1149 of 1878
Funny, I thought I needed my eyes checked BEFORE I put it in full pixel mode. It looked blurry, even the graphics/menu from the cable box looked blurry. Putting it in Full Pixel made it sharper and stopped my questioning if I needed new glasses.
post #1150 of 1878
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Originally Posted by Mark_Venture View Post

Funny, I thought I needed my eyes checked BEFORE I put it in full pixel mode. It looked blurry, even the graphics/menu from the cable box looked blurry. Putting it in Full Pixel made it sharper and stopped my questioning if I needed new glasses.


+1

Well Mark I learned my lession thats for sure. My tv now stays in Full Glorious Pixel. How stupid I was for leaving it in Normal and saying I didnt see a difference between the two modes.
post #1151 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

+1

Well Mark I learned my lession thats for sure. My tv now stays in Full Glorious Pixel. How stupid I was for leaving it in Normal and saying I didnt see a difference between the two modes.

Full pixel all the way mate. It maps the pixels 1:1 so each pixel that is broadcast is mapped to the pixels on your screen, no overlap ie a pixel half on half off on your screen.

Think of normal as i mini zoom. It's making the pixels of the picture displayed bigger, it's always going to make the image slightly softer.
post #1152 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Full pixel all the way mate. It maps the pixels 1:1 so each pixel that is broadcast is mapped to the pixels on your screen, no overlap ie a pixel half on half off on your screen.

Think of normal as i mini zoom. It's making the pixels of the picture displayed bigger, it's always going to make the image slightly softer.


I saw that last night Aaron how the image was softer with Normal but when I set it to Full Pixel and and gave it some time I saw how much sharper the image looked....and much better. Dont know what I was thinking but its all good now. biggrin.gif
post #1153 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

+1

Well Mark I learned my lession thats for sure. My tv now stays in Full Glorious Pixel. How stupid I was for leaving it in Normal and saying I didnt see a difference between the two modes.
I wouldn't say stupid. I mean on my 46XBR6 I didn't notice as much of a difference between "normal" and "full pixel" as I do with the 55HX750, so the thought of changing it hadn't crossed my mind initially. When setting up the HX750 and trying to tweak it to make it look better, I was trying to "copy settings" from the XBR, and that was one of them.

The only reason I ran my XBR on FP was because of occasionally hooking my tablet or laptop to the TV to watch some web broadcasts and product launches, and seeing some of the display image getting cut off. Had I never done that, I would have never considered changing that setting.
post #1154 of 1878
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Originally Posted by Mark_Venture View Post

I wouldn't say stupid. I mean on my 46XBR6 I didn't notice as much of a difference between "normal" and "full pixel" as I do with the 55HX750, so the thought of changing it hadn't crossed my mind initially. When setting up the HX750 and trying to tweak it to make it look better, I was trying to "copy settings" from the XBR, and that was one of them.

The only reason I ran my XBR on FP was because of occasionally hooking my tablet or laptop to the TV to watch some web broadcasts and product launches, and seeing some of the display image getting cut off. Had I never done that, I would have never considered changing that setting.


Well the reason I left Normal on for my HX750 was because this is what I had it set to on my Sony 46V5100 and I guess I became accustomed to it. But lets face it I am talking about 2 different tv's and to compare the 2 is absurd. My HX750 buries my old V5100 in every way possible but it was a 2009 model and didnt have the features of my HX750 or the PQ capabilities. So for me to think a setting that looked good on a 2009 model would look the same on a 2012 model is wrong on my part. Lession learned thats all I will say.
post #1155 of 1878
That's an interesting thing I'm going to tell my friends about it, I really wanted to hx750 but I really really wanted the 850 the hx750 just looking at in stores and seeing it play bluray movies in stores look absolutely amazing.

Guess I will have to wait for the w802a I'll bear with my lm7600 for a couple of more months.
post #1156 of 1878
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Originally Posted by orijin View Post

That's an interesting thing I'm going to tell my friends about it, I really wanted to hx750 but I really really wanted the 850 the hx750 just looking at in stores and seeing it play bluray movies in stores look absolutely amazing.

Guess I will have to wait for the w802a I'll bear with my lm7600 for a couple of more months.

FYI 802 will be passive 3D.
post #1157 of 1878
The random reboots continue... but man i'm so lazy to send this thing back for another time. Le sigh...
post #1158 of 1878
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

FYI 802 will be passive 3D.

I already know, their whole lineup is passive besides the w900
post #1159 of 1878
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Originally Posted by orijin View Post

I already know, their whole lineup is passive besides the w900


This just my opinion but I wouldnt hold my breath on the W802 being as good as the 750. It being Passive 3D is already a bad sign for me. But in the end I could be wrong. I guess time will tell.
post #1160 of 1878
In researching the w802 as a potential upgrade for my 3rd replacement call, I stumbled across this review and the following quote:

"In terms of picture specifications, the HX750 and W802A are very similar, both sporting edge-lit LED backlights without the local dimming seen on the step-up W900A (don't let Sony's "frame dimming" fool you; local it isn't)."

Given the exchanges back and forth in this thread's heyday I found it only fitting to drop it here for good laughs.

Source: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-55w802a/4505-6482_7-35561934.html

Still I wouldn't mind getting my HX750 swapped out for one of these bad boys. Look how thin that bezel is!
post #1161 of 1878
I was under the impression the w802 was the replacement for the HX750.
post #1162 of 1878
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

I was under the impression the w802 was the replacement for the HX750.


They say cmay that it is but I also heard that it is a replacement for the 640 and not the 750. I dont know.
post #1163 of 1878
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

I was under the impression the w802 was the replacement for the HX750.
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

They say cmay that it is but I also heard that it is a replacement for the 640 and not the 750. I dont know.

cmay I misspoke. I meant to say replacement and not upgrade. It is just an "upgrade" in my mind being a year newer and my poor experiences with the 750. It's tough to _not_ see the 802 as an upgrade is all smile.gif
post #1164 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post


cmay I misspoke. I meant to say replacement and not upgrade. It is just an "upgrade" in my mind being a year newer and my poor experiences with the 750. It's tough to _not_ see the 802 as an upgrade is all smile.gif


gator with all that you have been going through with your HX750 I agree that the 802 would be an upgrade. The question is is will Sony do it? I think they should but thats just me.
post #1165 of 1878
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Originally Posted by tcruise7771 View Post

Can you be more specific . What input are you watching . Have you ajusted picture settings , Display settings . Blur ? As in motion Blur ? May be u switched off or on settings of the MotionFlow ? If so press Options -> picture and scroll down to motionflow and see if that will change the blur . Other thing is you might have touched the sharpness .


Tcruise - Thanks, and sorry for taking so long to respond back.

I haven't messed with the settings. It just seems to have lost picture quality. I can now see more boxes (pixelation?) on the screen. I've changed scene selection from Game, to Sports, to General, to Cinema..... and it still looks dull. I don't know what to do.
post #1166 of 1878
The w802a replaces both the hx750 and hx850 that's the target audience for Sony with that television. They are no longer using gorilla glass for their glass anymore either it's a new more durable glass.

The r series is the one that will replace the ex that comes in flavors of 50,60,70".

The w900 is prob a more suited replacement for the xbr950 in terms of 1080p wise but obviously the new 4k are the new xbrs
post #1167 of 1878
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Originally Posted by orijin View Post

The w802a replaces both the hx750 and hx850 that's the target audience for Sony with that television. They are no longer using gorilla glass for their glass anymore either it's a new more durable glass.

The r series is the one that will replace the ex that comes in flavors of 50,60,70".

The w900 is prob a more suited replacement for the xbr950 in terms of 1080p wise but obviously the new 4k are the new xbrs

The w900a is the replacement for the hx850. Both tvs essentially use the same design inside with the exception of the glass and triluminous. There is no replacement for the hx950 as that product cycle is from sept/oct not march/apr like the other models. The w900a is edge lit, not full array with local dimming.
post #1168 of 1878
Also, the 802 actually comes in 46" size like my 750 is.

Then again, knowing Sony they would rather give me the down graded R series and spin in with "But we're giving you a 50" replacement for your 46"!!
post #1169 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post

Also, the 802 actually comes in 46" size like my 750 is.

Then again, knowing Sony they would rather give me the down graded R series and spin in with "But we're giving you a 50" replacement for your 46"!!

If that's the case, tell them you want the 70 or 60 worst case. smile.gif
post #1170 of 1878
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Originally Posted by willie pastrano View Post

Tcruise - Thanks, and sorry for taking so long to respond back.

I haven't messed with the settings. It just seems to have lost picture quality. I can now see more boxes (pixelation?) on the screen. I've changed scene selection from Game, to Sports, to General, to Cinema..... and it still looks dull. I don't know what to do.
Is it all sources? "cable tv" only? or bluray too?
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