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post #121 of 1878
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Originally Posted by LAefj View Post

Hello!
I just purchased the Sony KDL-55HX750 as a replacement offer from Sony Listens because of the optical block failure in my Sony KDS55A2020.
I suppose I am giving this new TV a 4/5 partly because I received a great offer.
After calibrating the TV (per input) and breaking it in a bit (~40 hrs), I must say that I am very satisfied with the picture quality and features.
Three questions though:
1) Are the people complaining about the "flashlight" issues have the back light set to 5/10 or higher?
I have my back light set to 2/10 and brightness set at 55. I do see some light in extremely black scenes but otherwise have no complaints. Doing my research I see that this affects most LED LCD sets to a certain degree.
2) I have no problem with this TV's ability to connect to my wifi router and maintain a strong signal (using a Netgear WNDR3700 router). Maybe the problem is with your wifi router?
3) The speakers are weak. Though I supposed that as thin as this tv is, it is sorta expected. Any soundbar/av receiver suggestions for this tv set would be great and very welcoming.
I am no way a videophile and am partial to plasmas (Panasonic Viera), I must say that Sony has a satisfied customer with this tv set.

My flash lighting issues have only occurred recently wit the set, after having it a month. It is right down the middle of the screen coming in from the top, mostly noticeable in brighter scenes and ALWAYS noticeable in scenes with a horizontally moving camera. I have my back light set to Min (I've tried every setting under the sun in hopes to eliminate or even minimalize the flash lighting). Static scenes look phenomenal, but the uneven lighting in moving scenes is too much to bear. My 2007 Bravia looks better than this set half the time. Hopefully you have better luck!
post #122 of 1878
gatorboi352,
Yeah I am hoping that once I break the TV in more (~100 hrs) that I dont run into the same issue. My TV says May 2012 in the serial no. sticker behind the tv. Maybe this defect was fixed recently?

I also enabled auto-firmware download. Sometimes just updating that helps.
post #123 of 1878
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Originally Posted by LAefj View Post

gatorboi352,
Yeah I am hoping that once I break the TV in more (~100 hrs) that I dont run into the same issue. My TV says May 2012 in the serial no. sticker behind the tv. Maybe this defect was fixed recently?
I also enabled auto-firmware download. Sometimes just updating that helps.

Yeah I too have the auto firmware downloads enabled. Perhaps I just have a bum set. I will know soon enough once I contact Sony!
post #124 of 1878
Hi all !

i've just bought the Sony KDL-32HX750 and i want streaming 3D video wirelessly or wired from PC to this TV. If someone know how to do that please let me know. thank you very much.
post #125 of 1878
Can anyone that owns this set comment about how reflective the screen is? For the Sony replacement program I'm choosing between this and the HX850 so if this screen is fairly reflective even though it's supposed to be matte I'd rather get the 850. The set would be facing some windows. Thanks.
post #126 of 1878
If it's like the 729, the last version, it is very reflective and more than the Gorilla Glass 820/850. I have the 729. I love it but it is very reflective.
post #127 of 1878
Just exchanged a Panasonic 50tu50 plasma for the HX750.

1080P 3d movies with dark scenes completely dissappeared! I don't mind the blackout curtains and lights out. But that being said I would like to see all the scenes. Toy Story had me constantly looking for the brightness control.

This TV? Bright, full 1080p without those huge "non interlaceable" horizontal bars from passive glasses, a result of, but quite aside from, the drop to 540p vertical resolution.

No passives or plasmas for me.
post #128 of 1878
Thread Starter 
Welcome to the forum. Hope you enjoy your new HX750 for many years.
post #129 of 1878
I very much dislike MotionFlow for shows/movies. It is great for everything else. Glad I am able to turn it off/on from within the settings. Anyone else do this?

Thanks,
E
post #130 of 1878
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Originally Posted by pjtip View Post

Can anyone that owns this set comment about how reflective the screen is? For the Sony replacement program I'm choosing between this and the HX850 so if this screen is fairly reflective even though it's supposed to be matte I'd rather get the 850. The set would be facing some windows. Thanks.

I went with the HX750 (Sony Replacement Program) because it has a matte screen which results in a lot less glare.
I have no problems with this TV's design, brightness or black levels.

For the HX850 you are paying a premium for Gorilla Glass, slightly slimmer design and X-Reality Pro.

None of those to me a justify a premium of $500.
post #131 of 1878
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Originally Posted by LAefj View Post

Hello!
I just purchased the Sony KDL-55HX750 as a replacement offer from Sony Listens because of the optical block failure in my Sony KDS55A2020.
I suppose I am giving this new TV a 4/5 partly because I received a great offer.
After calibrating the TV (per input) and breaking it in a bit (~40 hrs), I must say that I am very satisfied with the picture quality and features.
Three questions though:
1) Are the people complaining about the "flashlight" issues have the back light set to 5/10 or higher?
I have my back light set to 2/10 and brightness set at 55. I do see some light in extremely black scenes but otherwise have no complaints. Doing my research I see that this affects most LED LCD sets to a certain degree.

How is your setup now handling shadow detail? I can imagine that reducing the backlighting to such a low level would indeed diminish the flashlighting and clouding but at the expense of shadow detail. In my case, I am looking for a TV for my office/den and if I were not interested in watching CNBC 4-5 hours a day Mon-Fri I would definitely go with a Panasonic ST50/Samsung Plasma E6500. However, IR/and potential burn-in is a big concern with my viewing habits, especially with the Panasonic.
post #132 of 1878
Hi all !

I played a Full 3D SBS film (size 3840x1080) on my PC through HDMI port to Sony 32HX750 TV but the film didn't display fullscreen. It displayed with 2 large black bars on top and bottom. I want to know my TV can display FULL 3D film or not (3D Half SBS film no problem). If someone know please let me know. thank you very much.
post #133 of 1878
That is probably normal. The film was probably shot in 2.35:1 at 1080p vs something shot 1.85:1 in 1080p. Examples of this could be Saving Private Ryan (full screen 1.85:1) vs Pulp Fiction (bars at top and bottom 2.35:1). It is more about the aspect ratio the movie was filmed at.
post #134 of 1878
Witch are the best display setting for the 55HX750 when you are playing Playstation 3 Games
post #135 of 1878
I have turned off motion flow etc also because I don't want to reset it all the time for games.

I also read a detailed review where the major cause of blurring of the original 24 fps master is impossible to remove without strange results, like square leaves on trees etc.

Can you tell us what specific ill effect this feature caused you to see?
post #136 of 1878
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Originally Posted by maxxx1 View Post

I have turned off motion flow etc also because I don't want to reset it all the time for games.
I also read a detailed review where the major cause of blurring of the original 24 fps master is impossible to remove without strange results, like square leaves on trees etc.
Can you tell us what specific ill effect this feature caused you to see?
On my 55HX729, the only effect I see with Motion Flow engaged is the soap opera sort of video look that movies can get, which I don't mind.
post #137 of 1878
The HX750 is definitely more reflective than my old LCD TV. Dim but clear reflective images are visible whereas my old LCD simple shows just a dim blur. That said, the HX750 IS matte and much better than gorilla glass. One has to wonder why the industry didn't keep the performance capability of these old screens.

I wonder about the black level "fussiness" when talking about a partial mirror.

I think the point is whether or not you see it when its on, like flashlighting. The old CRT TVs had a very light green colored phosphorous, clearly visible when the TV was off. But unless the TV was in the sun while you were watching it, you wouldn't notice it.
post #138 of 1878
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Originally Posted by maxxx1 View Post

The HX750 is definitely more reflective than my old LCD TV. Dim but clear reflective images are visible whereas my old LCD simple shows just a dim blur. That said, the HX750 IS matte and much better than gorilla glass. One has to wonder why the industry didn't keep the performance capability of these old screens.
I wonder about the black level "fussiness" when talking about a partial mirror.
I think the point is whether or not you see it when its on, like flashlighting. The old CRT TVs had a very light green colored phosphorous, clearly visible when the TV was off. But unless the TV was in the sun while you were watching it, you wouldn't notice it.
I have to take a look at it. I have a 55" 729 and the screen is definitely not mat but very glass-like.
post #139 of 1878
The HX850 has local dimming as opposed to the frame dimming of the HX750, so it can dim sections of the screen instead of dimming the entire light output of the screen like the HX750 does. It's not perfect but it's pretty effective.

Aaron
post #140 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

The HX850 has local dimming as opposed to the frame dimming of the HX750, so it can dim sections of the screen instead of dimming the entire light output of the screen like the HX750 does. It's not perfect but it's pretty effective.
Aaron
This is incorrect. They both have dynamic edge lit LED. The 850 does NOT have true local dimming-only the XBR929 does.
post #141 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

This is incorrect. They both have dynamic edge lit LED. The 850 does NOT have true local dimming-only the XBR929 does.

Sorry wrong.

http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting

Yes the HX929 has full led backlighting, the HX850 and HX750 are both edge lit, the HX850 does have local dimming although edge based. The HX750 dims the light output of the display to create deep blacks the HX850 can dim sections of the screen.

Don't bother getting pedantic with me thanks. "It's edge lit its not true local dimming" It is local dimming, it works, it's rated highly.

Thanks

Aaron
post #142 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Sorry wrong.
http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting
Yes the HX929 has full led backlighting, the HX850 and HX750 are both edge lit, the HX850 does have local dimming although edge based. The HX750 dims the light output of the display to create deep blacks the HX850 can dim sections of the screen.
Don't bother getting pedantic with me thanks. "It's edge lit its not true local dimming" It is local dimming, it works, it's rated highly.
Thanks
Aaron
OMG Don't get rude with me: why don't you read the specs! The 820,the 729, the 750, and the 850 all have DYNAMIC edge lit lighting.


http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666415300#features


http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666415292#features

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666312874


R-E-A-D first before you get rude...The 750 has dynamic edge lit led as does the HX729. The models below the 750 - the EX series have standard LED edge lighting. Get YOUR facts straight before copping an attitude!
Edited by steve ans - 7/8/12 at 9:04am
post #143 of 1878
Check your UK website again:

http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting and read more carefully. Thank you. Have a nice day.
post #144 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

OMG Don't get rude with me: why don't you read the specs! The 820,the 729, the 750, and the 850 all have DYNAMIC edge lit lighting.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666415300#features
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666415292#features
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666312874
R-E-A-D first before you get rude...The 750 has dynamic edge lit led as does the HX729. The models below the 750 - the EX series have standard LED edge lighting. Get YOUR facts straight before copping an attitude!

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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

Check your UK website again:
http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting and read more carefully. Thank you. Have a nice day.

I agreed with you, the HX750 and HX850 are both edge lit, but the HX850 does have dimming zones and thus local dimming, it may not have as many zones as the HX929 bit it's still local dimming. The HX750 has 1 dimming zone aka the whole backlight.

It just got my back up as you are clearly being pedantic about it. I don't care what you class as local dimming. Facts are facts.

Aaron
post #145 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

The HX850 has local dimming as opposed to the frame dimming of the HX750, so it can dim sections of the screen instead of dimming the entire light output of the screen like the HX750 does. It's not perfect but it's pretty effective.
Aaron

Read my post again Steve, nothing here is wrong.

HX850 - edge lit, local dimming (8 zones)

HX750 - edge lit, frame dimming
post #146 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

Check your UK website again:
http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting and read more carefully. Thank you. Have a nice day.

Dynamic Edge LED with local dimming – boost contrast where you need it

As the scene turns from night to day, and the sun starts to rise, you’ll see every detail in deep contrast, as rich yellows and golden rays of light come to life. Dynamic Edge LED backlighting uses LEDs arranged along the sides of the TV’s panel and divided into segments. Local-dimming technology independently controls the brightness of individual of LEDs depending on the image showing. This enhances contrast of bright and dark areas in the same scene, for greater contrast and colour control.

Dynamic Edge LED with frame dimming – more contrast for less energy

Not every scene should be bright and bold, sometimes subtle shades and tones are needed to build the atmosphere. A Dynamic Edge LED screen with frame dimming analyses the video signal and adjusts backlight levels in each frame in the right part of the screen, without losing colour or brightness. The result is a sharp, high contrast picture that uses up to 15% less power.

Ditto Steve
post #147 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Dynamic Edge LED with local dimming – boost contrast where you need it
As the scene turns from night to day, and the sun starts to rise, you’ll see every detail in deep contrast, as rich yellows and golden rays of light come to life. Dynamic Edge LED backlighting uses LEDs arranged along the sides of the TV’s panel and divided into segments. Local-dimming technology independently controls the brightness of individual of LEDs depending on the image showing. This enhances contrast of bright and dark areas in the same scene, for greater contrast and colour control.
Dynamic Edge LED with frame dimming – more contrast for less energy
Not every scene should be bright and bold, sometimes subtle shades and tones are needed to build the atmosphere. A Dynamic Edge LED screen with frame dimming analyses the video signal and adjusts backlight levels in each frame in the right part of the screen, without losing colour or brightness. The result is a sharp, high contrast picture that uses up to 15% less power.
Ditto Steve

Here we go again: the 750: Dynamic Edge LED backlighting with frame dimming delivers pitch-black night scenes and illuminates bright scenes so they pop with vibrant color—all in a slimmer, more attractive design.

the 850: Dynamic Edge LED backlighting with frame dimming yields pitch-black night scenes while also illuminating bright scenes so they pop with vibrant color.

the 729: Dynamic Edge LED backlighting with local dimming allows for an exceptionally slim design that yields pitch-black night scenes and provides bright scenes illumination making them pop with vibrant color. The above are pastes from the US SonyStyle site

Talk about pedantic. They're all the same
post #148 of 1878
Aaron- your original "correction."
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Sorry wrong.

http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting

Yes the HX929 has full led backlighting, the HX850 and HX750 are both edge lit, the HX850 does have local dimming although edge based. The HX750 dims the light output of the display to create deep blacks the HX850 can dim sections of the screen.

Don't bother getting pedantic with me thanks. "It's edge lit its not true local dimming" It is local dimming, it works, it's rated highly.

Thanks

Aaron/QUOTE]

Above simply not accurate and can cause confusion to new forum members/readers
post #149 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve ans View Post

OMG Don't get rude with me: why don't you read the specs! The 820,the 729, the 750, and the 850 all have DYNAMIC edge lit lighting.

R-E-A-D first before you get rude...The 750 has dynamic edge lit led as does the HX729. The models below the 750 - the EX series have standard LED edge lighting. Get YOUR fax straight before copping an attitude!

Without wishing to inject myself into an argument, I read each of those links and looked under the "Features" section. To quote:

HX750 -
Dynamic Edge LED with frame dimming

It's all about perfecting a natural look. Dynamic Edge LED backlighting with frame dimming delivers pitch-black night scenes and illuminates bright scenes that pop with vibrant color. Rather than illuminating the entire screen, contrast is boosted in just the right areas for a more realistic picture.

HX850 -
The difference is dynamic.

It's all about perfecting a natural look. Dynamic Edge LED backlighting with local dimming delivers pitch-black night scenes and illuminates bright scenes that pop with vibrant color. Rather than illuminating the entire screen, contrast is boosted in just the right areas for a more realistic picture.

HX929 -
Experience Sony’s best picture quality and extraordinary contrast with full-array local dimming technology. This innovative technology consists of an array of LED lights that adjust the bright and dark levels in each area of the screen for more precise control of the picture.
post #150 of 1878
Peter, are you copying the US Sony Style site? It's all under "overview". This is a waste of time. Here:

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666415300 The new 750/850 models describe frame dimming dynamic edge; the previous model year 729s state local edge dimming. I will wager this is identical.

And remember, the above first contentious post stated by HaRd2BeAr: "The HX850 and HX750 are both edge lit, the HX850 does have local dimming although edge based. The HX750 dims the light output of the display to create deep blacks the HX850 can dim sections of the screen.

Don't bother getting pedantic with me thanks. "It's edge lit its not true local dimming"


WRONG.wink.gif
Edited by steve ans - 7/8/12 at 9:54am
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