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post #301 of 1878
I'll post mine tomorrow. Can't bear with Warm 2 either.
post #302 of 1878
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Originally Posted by chicagorunner10 View Post

Any thoughts on the claim in the Cnet review where they said the EX640 overall is actually better than the HX750?
The attributed it mostly to what they claimed was the EX640's better black-level performance. Are you guys happy with the black-levels on your HX750?


I am very happy with my HX750's black level's. To be honest I am starting to take Cnets claims with a grain of salt being that they seem to have an axe to grind with Sony. I know that while watching my HX750 at night with the lights off and a scene goes to all black the room goes to all black as well and I have never experienced that with any HDTV that I have owned previously. In my book the tv is amazing. I am good freinds with Tom Norton over at Home Theater Magazine and if he says a tv is very good I take it to the bank. Although he has yet to review the HX750 for the magazine he has tested them for a future article and he said that the HX750 is a very good tv and it would get a top pick from him. I used Tom's settings he did for the HX850 and they work great on mine.
post #303 of 1878
If you haven't bought a pair of 3D glasses yet, Best Buy has a great price on Sony Playstation 3D Glasses @ $29.99. They are considered universal and works with many IR 3D TVs. I watched some 3D Comcast movies with them on my 55HX750. While they worked, I did experience some ghosting. My set is mounted on the wall above my fireplace.

Wabbit
post #304 of 1878
Here are my settings:

Picture Mode: Cinema 1

Backlight: 5
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 52
Color: 58
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 1
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: On
CineMotion: Auto 1

Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: 0
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off [grayed out]
i/p Conversion Preference: Quality [grayed out]

Light Sensor Off
post #305 of 1878
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Originally Posted by clancy688 View Post

Here are my settings:
Picture Mode: Cinema 1
Backlight: 5
Contrast: 98
Brightness: 52
Color: 58
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 1
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
Motionflow: On
CineMotion: Auto 1
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: 0
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off [grayed out]
i/p Conversion Preference: Quality [grayed out]
Light Sensor Off


Hey clancy where did you get your settings from? And did you leave your white balance settings in the default mode? Oh and I tried last night setting my tv to warm 1 and to my eye it gave off a slight blue tinge to the whites in the programs I was watching so I turned it back to 2.
post #306 of 1878
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Originally Posted by wabbit View Post

If you haven't bought a pair of 3D glasses yet, Best Buy has a great price on Sony Playstation 3D Glasses @ $29.99. They are considered universal and works with many IR 3D TVs. I watched some 3D Comcast movies with them on my 55HX750. While they worked, I did experience some ghosting. My set is mounted on the wall above my fireplace.
Wabbit


For that price I might have to get a pair or 2 and try them out. Thanks Wabbit.
post #307 of 1878
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Originally Posted by englezjgoonmad View Post

i've just bought the Sony KDL-32HX750 and i want streaming 3D video wirelessly or wired from PC to this TV. If someone know how to do that please let me know. thank you very much.link

To my knowledge I do not believe that is possible. Could be wrong though. I'm fuzzy on the VGA PC input on HDTVs and what they are capable of doing.
post #308 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

Hey clancy where did you get your settings from? And did you leave your white balance settings in the default mode? Oh and I tried last night setting my tv to warm 1 and to my eye it gave off a slight blue tinge to the whites in the programs I was watching so I turned it back to 2.

I started with settings posted by other users in a german forum. Then I bought a few test images from a little german firm which's specialized in tuning TVs (and especially Sony's): http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?client=tmpg&depth=1&hl=en&langpair=de%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.burosch.de/&usg=ALkJrhjjKdvar674ZcAWhIWBnetupyvkqw

I did nothing to the white settings, so they should be in default mode. I agree that there's a blue stinge with warm 1, but the orange / brown tinge of warm 2 is way worse in my opinion.

I have to note that there's a large difference between picture modes. With the general picture mode, I have to dial down sharpness to 20, but with the cinema mode, 50 is okay. No idea why that's the case.
post #309 of 1878
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Originally Posted by clancy688 View Post

I started with settings posted by other users in a german forum. Then I bought a few test images from a little german firm which's specialized in tuning TVs (and especially Sony's): http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?client=tmpg&depth=1&hl=en&langpair=de%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.burosch.de/&usg=ALkJrhjjKdvar674ZcAWhIWBnetupyvkqw
I did nothing to the white settings, so they should be in default mode. I agree that there's a blue stinge with warm 1, but the orange / brown tinge of warm 2 is way worse in my opinion.
I have to note that there's a large difference between picture modes. With the general picture mode, I have to dial down sharpness to 20, but with the cinema mode, 50 is okay. No idea why that's the case.


So do you use Cinema 1 or 2 instead of General Picture mode? Let me know because I will give your settings a try.
post #310 of 1878
Cinema 1.

There's another option called "Szene Selection" ("Szenenauswahl" in German, no idea if that's the same name you english speaking guys have). You can find it under Home -> Settings -> System Settings. There I chose "Cinema". Afterwards, in the image menue (clicking on "options" on the remote) the picture mode is listed as "Cinema 1". That's the one I'm using.
Edited by clancy688 - 10/3/12 at 8:06am
post #311 of 1878
What I've found pretty funny, and I'm sure this isn't only in regards to Sony's TVs, is that almost every settings listing I've ever seen always has all the "new fancy features" turned completely off LOL

Motionflow? Off

Black Corrector? Off

Contrast Enhancer? Off

Etc, etc..

Just an interesting observation.
post #312 of 1878
I have Motion Flow turned on! Ha! biggrin.gif

Apart from that I'm kind of a purist. I want to see the picture like the producers intended for me to see it.
post #313 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post

What I've found pretty funny, and I'm sure this isn't only in regards to Sony's TVs, is that almost every settings listing I've ever seen always has all the "new fancy features" turned completely off LOL
Motionflow? Off
Black Corrector? Off
Contrast Enhancer? Off
Etc, etc..
Just an interesting observation.

This is what I dont understand Gator, why would Sony put those features on the tv if they werent useful?. I have Motionflow on...set to standard, I have Cinamotion on as well as Black Corrector. I went back to the settings I first posted on here and after comparing them to Cnets settings and Home Theaters settings I found them to be the best of the 3. But back to what you said Gator there has to be a reason why Sony put those features on there or they wouldnt be there. Oh and I got the settings from LCDBuyingguide.com.
Edited by steve1971 - 10/3/12 at 3:45pm
post #314 of 1878
IMO a big part of it is marketing. I haven't watched much sports on my tv to see the appeal to motionflow, but I find it makes everything look weird and sped up watching tv shows and movies.
post #315 of 1878
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Originally Posted by lucidream View Post

IMO a big part of it is marketing. I haven't watched much sports on my tv to see the appeal to motionflow, but I find it makes everything look weird and sped up watching tv shows and movies.


I like Motionflow on the Sony Tv's. I keep it set to Standard. Now if I set it to high then I can see that soap opera effect that everyone talks about and at times I think it looks cool......its like another form of 3D. But since my tv now comes with 3D I dont need it set to high anymore lol.
post #316 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

I like Motionflow on the Sony Tv's. I keep it set to Standard. Now if I set it to high then I can see that soap opera effect that everyone talks about and at times I think it looks cool......its like another form of 3D. But since my tv now comes with 3D I dont need it set to high anymore lol.

I find it odd most here either set motionflow off or use the Standard setting. All smooth and Standard do is add frame interpolation which adds the soap opera effect to films etc. Well smooth and standard makes everything look odd to me.

Yet Clear or Clear plus are rarely used. Clear is the sweet spot in my opinion as it adds back light scanning and actually aids motion. Clear plus adds black frames which helps to reset your eyes so to speak and aid the appearance of motion, although light out put takes a hit.

Aaron
post #317 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

I find it odd most here either set motionflow off or use the Standard setting. All smooth and Standard do is add frame interpolation which adds the soap opera effect to films etc. Well smooth and standard makes everything look odd to me.
Yet Clear or Clear plus are rarely used. Clear is the sweet spot in my opinion as it adds back light scanning and actually aids motion. Clear plus adds black frames which helps to reset your eyes so to speak and aid the appearance of motion, although light out put takes a hit.
Aaron


This is why Aaron I dont use Clear and Clear Plus on my tv and thats because the light output takes a major hit! I feel with Standard the soap opera effect is very very minimal.
post #318 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

This is why Aaron I dont use Clear and Clear Plus on my tv and thats because the light output takes a major hit! I feel with Standard the soap opera effect is very very minimal.

HI Steve, thats fair enough. But for me knowing smooth and standard do nothing to help motion blur and adds a weird affect to motion like its shot on a camcorder just put me off using them.

I dont personally find clear dims the picture to much? I just up the backlight to around 7.

I own the HX853 though so guess this could change things.

I also used to be an advocate of using Warm 2 but now use Warm 1.

Aaron
post #319 of 1878
Can anyone help out on picture tweaks for normal tv watching through HDMI cables? My signal is coming from fiberedge/cable. Also I'm interested on picture tweaks while watching movies through a blu ray player. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
post #320 of 1878
Can anyone help out on picture tweaks for normal tv watching through HDMI cables? My signal is coming from fiberedge/cable. Also I'm interested on picture tweaks while watching movies through a blu ray player. Any help will be greatly appreciated. My tv is a KDL46HX750
post #321 of 1878
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Originally Posted by MJ 321 View Post

Can anyone help out on picture tweaks for normal tv watching through HDMI cables? My signal is coming from fiberedge/cable. Also I'm interested on picture tweaks while watching movies through a blu ray player. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I've still yet to find a sweet spot for BluRays, but for normal HDMI 1080i cable box viewing I've settled on this: start with the standard default setting and only adjust backlight down to 1, Color Temp to Warm 1, Motionflow to Clear and sharpness down to 40 or below. I left everything else at default and it looks the best of any setting I've tried. Keep in mind my living room is rather dark 85% of the time even with all windows open so you may need some tweaking from that.
post #322 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post

I've still yet to find a sweet spot for BluRays, but for normal HDMI 1080i cable box viewing I've settled on this: start with the standard default setting and only adjust backlight down to 1, Color Temp to Warm 1, Motionflow to Clear and sharpness down to 40 or below. I left everything else at default and it looks the best of any setting I've tried. Keep in mind my living room is rather dark 85% of the time even with all windows open so you may need some tweaking from that.

Also of note to the other posters: I've become a big fan of leaving both Black Corrector and Adv. Contrast Enhancer set to the default Medium. It basically completely eliminates the dreaded four corners of light that is present on every LCD based flat screen ever made, and brings out some of the deepest blacks I've ever seen. I can only imagine how it looks set to High.
post #323 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post

Also of note to the other posters: I've become a big fan of leaving both Black Corrector and Adv. Contrast Enhancer set to the default Medium. It basically completely eliminates the dreaded four corners of light that is present on every LCD based flat screen ever made, and brings out some of the deepest blacks I've ever seen. I can only imagine how it looks set to High.


I have to agree gator. I left my black corrector on Medium as well as the ACE. Even though I didnt have any issues with the "dreaded four corners of light" these help the tv get the deepest blacks that I have seen on a HDTV as well. Good post buddy.biggrin.gif
post #324 of 1878
As far as I know "black corrector" makes grey colors black, therefore there is more black on the screen and you get the impression of an overall blacker image. Down side: You're killing details (two dots before black correction: black and grey. Those same dots afterwards: black and... black). That's why I'm NOT enabling black corrector.

But that's only a pretext for me posting the next part of my neverending Sony TV story... wink.gif

As you know my TV got a free dis- and assembling service last week. I had not that much time afterwards, but this weekend and today I finally found some hours to spend with my TV. So I'm sitting on my couch today, watching a Battlestar Galactica episode on Blu-Ray. But wait... there's something... not quite right... in the upper right corner. Can it be... impossible?!?!

Well... I turned out the lights. And then... it was there. In all its glory. Same problem as Joker's. Twin brother of the one in the upper right corner in this picture .
It definitely HADN'T been there BEFORE the (attempted) repair. So... why the hell now? Then I tried this: Went to the upper right corner with a screw driver and loosened the two screws located there. The second one being VERY hard to turn. And voila - flashlight unvisible under normal light. Not the same as before (you can still see it when watching in a dark room, but I'm almost never doing this...).

Next time the support guys are here I'll tell them NOT to tighten the screws...
post #325 of 1878
I'm new to this site/forum. I'm trying to find someone who can help me tweak my new Sony tv. I had a 40' Sony that I bought in 07 which out of the box it had a terrific picture. The 46' I bought seems as if it needs a little help. My cousin told me to check this site to see if I could find something to help and I haven't really found anything yet. Just from reading your post you seem to be know a good bit about the tv's. Would you be interested in helping? I mostly watch tv through the set but occasionally will pop in a blu ray. If you are willing to help out I can send you my number and you can call instead of typing back and forth.
Thanks...
post #326 of 1878
Thanks for your input. Its better but since my room is probably brighter than yours what should I change?
But again, thanks a bunch for your help.
post #327 of 1878
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Originally Posted by MJ 321 View Post

Thanks for your input. Its better but since my room is probably brighter than yours what should I change?

Nothing. If you don't have problems, leave it at that. I've heard stories that loosening screws will forfeit your TV's warranty. Won't be a problem in my case since my set had already been opened once by technicians. wink.gif
post #328 of 1878
First I wouldnt touch the screw's on my tv if I were paid for it. Since there is no clouding or flashlighting on my tv theres no need to anyway. That being said I didnt need to set my black corrector because it was already set to medium and number 2 I left the ACE to low....so I made no changes. I have had my tv now for about 3 weeks and damn do I love this tv, every time I turn it on I am in awe at the PQ, black levels and detail. I saw my tv at my local Best Buy and they have it sitting in their Magnolia show room sitting right next to the Sony 929, 850 and the so called Sharp Elite and you know what? I think it equals all 3......yes I said it all 3. Some will say I am crazy for making that comment but I call it as I see it.....and my vision is pretty damn good and I know HDTV's. I think the HX750 is the sleeper HDTV of 2012.
post #329 of 1878
I'm personally still disappointed in the black levels. I think my previous 640 was darker. This is only a quasi complaint. I played around with the levels a lot this weekend, and played with the black enhancer. I noticed right away that detail was lost and the overall picture quality, although 'blacker', was unfavourable. That was on "high" though, so I may play around with medium.

On another note, I pulled the trigger on some 250 3d glasses, and watched the Avengers 3d movie this weekend. It was pretty fun! I would never be able to watch more than 1 movie back to back, as it does pose some eye strain, but ultimately it was a good experience. One of the biggest blessings for me though, is that the glasses add a slight tint to the picture, and the black levels were absolutely amazing!

Kinda hoping that they continue to tweak the 750's dynamic edge led, and we get better contract and black levels in a future firmware upgrade....

edit: Looking forward to the Home Theater Magazine review of the 750. Steve: as odd as it may sound, I wonder if you were lucky and got a particularly good 750 unit regarding black levels? Mine has very good uniformity, which is the only thing I looked for from a QC standpoint.
Edited by lucidream - 10/9/12 at 1:25pm
post #330 of 1878
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Originally Posted by lucidream View Post

I'm personally still disappointed in the black levels. I think my previous 640 was darker. This is only a quasi complaint. I played around with the levels a lot this weekend, and played with the black enhancer. I noticed right away that detail was lost and the overall picture quality, although 'blacker', was unfavourable. That was on "high" though, so I may play around with medium.
On another note, I pulled the trigger on some 250 3d glasses, and watched the Avengers 3d movie this weekend. It was pretty fun! I would never be able to watch more than 1 movie back to back, as it does pose some eye strain, but ultimately it was a good experience. One of the biggest blessings for me though, is that the glasses add a slight tint to the picture, and the black levels were absolutely amazing!
Kinda hoping that they continue to tweak the 750's dynamic edge led, and we get better contract and black levels in a future firmware upgrade....
edit: Looking forward to the Home Theater Magazine review of the 750. Steve: as odd as it may sound, I wonder if you were lucky and got a particularly good 750 unit regarding black levels? Mine has very good uniformity, which is the only thing I looked for from a QC standpoint.


Hey buddy. With mine I find that with black corrector set to medium and the advanced contraster set to low it gives excellent black levels......but even without those on the black levels are very very good. As to your last question? I may have indeed got lucky because as I said black levels are excellent and screen uniformity is perfect not to mention the PQ is outstanding, some of the best that I have seen on a HDTV and trust me I have have seen and studied several of them. I was told that Home Theater magazine more then likely wont do a review of the HX750 due to the fact that they just did a review of the HX850 and are doing a review of the HX929 or was it the 950? Cant remember but I think its sad really because I feel the 750 is equal to the 850 but thats just my opinion mind you. I had a chance to try out the 3D feature on my tv as well with the movie Hugo and after seeing it it changed my view on 3D to a positive one.
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