Official Sony KDL-46HX750 & KDL-55HX750 Owners Thread - Page 18

Originally Posted by gatorboi352 

Look guys Steve loves his 750, let the man love his 750. No need to "run him off".
My cousin owns the 640 and my mom has the 850. Based on what I've seen out of the 3 sets, having viewed all of them at night and IMO only:
640 and 750 are neck and neck PQ wise. The 750 just "looks" like a higher quality of a set with a nicer looking bezel around the frame and a more matte finished panel. PQ was almost the same from what I saw. The menu interface wasn't as nice on the 640 though.
The 850 IMO only was a markedly better looking set compared to my 750. There are moments where my 750 looks downright stunning, especially when gaming, but the 850 ALWAYS looks stunning from what I've seen. I've yet to spot a flaw with it.
Keep in mind, this is only based off of 1 640, 2 750s (I'm on my second) and 1 850. Your mileage may vary.

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

Which is fine, but speaking rubbish because you love your tv is a little sad.
He can say based on a shop viewing that the 750 and 850 are equal, but the suggestion the 640 is better, god forbid.
The 750 dims the whole screen on a dark scene, the 850 has zones it can dim for better accuracy and deeper blacks on mixed contrast scene. Its likely Sony used a different panel in the 640 as it has no led dynamic control so relies on the panels native contrast.
Aaron

Originally Posted by steve1971 

First Aaron lets get one thing clear and correct and that is the HX850 does NOT use zones that dim the LED's for better accuracy as you say. It has the SAME feature the HX750 uses to dim the LED's and after reading your little explanation I brought this up to my freind Scott at Sony and he confirmed it so dont go saying something that aint true unless you have the facts to back it up. And trust me I can back up the facts. Second you wanna say the 640 is better then "god forbid" thats your opinion and your entitled to it. Third Sony did use a different panel in the 640 but it has nothing to do with Dynamic Control because thats a whole seperate chip they use and dont have anything to do with the panel they put in the tv. Again I have facts that I can back it up with. Lastly....yes I love my tv but let me make thing clear to you and everyone else and thats that no rubbish as you call it has been spoken here. What is sad is when guys like you interject themselves in a conversation you have nothing to do with. Then condemn a person for likeing something. Now thats rubbish!
And to gator? Its gonna take more then some crap spewed by a person who "thinks" he knows something about a certain set of tv's to run me off.

With or without the local dimming LED Dynamic Control being used. Sony have simplified their local dimming techniques this year and it’s certainly better than last year’s mediocre attempts. The 55KDL-HX853 utilises 8 dimming zones running horizontally across the panel. On the face of it that doesn’t sound very many but as the dimming works from both left and right sides, you can effectively double that number.

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

I think some one needs to use Google and chill out.
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Sony-Bravia-HX853-KDL-55HX853-46HX853-40HX853-3D-LED-LCD-TV-Review_306/Review.html
Quote from said review.
Sony site...
http://www.sony.co.uk/hub/lcd-television/benefits/tv-picture-quality/article/led-backlighting
Now note frame dimming? Look what it says for the HX75 under features? Shocker
http://www.sony.co.uk/product/tv-117-46-lcd/kdl-46hx753/features#tab
For clarity both the HX750 and HX850 have dynamic edge led, but the HX750 uses frame dimming while the HX850 uses local dimming. Its there in black and white.
Now this isn't for you Steve because for whatever reason you have a chip on your shoulder, not sure if it's the fact you bought the wrong tv or that you don't like being wrong, which I can't help, but what I can help is rubbish being spread.
Aaron

Originally Posted by englechgc 

That's the "wifi direct" feature. I wonder, do you have a sony laptop? I haven't played around with it yet, but always wondered what the caveat of support was, and whether it was based on vaio products or whatever.

Originally Posted by steve1971 

(Sigh) First I dont have a chip on my shoulder and second I bought the right tv and 3rd if I am wrong I will say I am wrong. But the HX850 does not use local dimming, that only applies to full array LED sets and Sony has admitted to to an error on letting people think that the HX850 uses local dimming and according to my freind at Sony that error has been corrected in print and otherwise. But whatever. I am not going to argue anymore about it because its not worth it. Its a tv for gods sake and I am not going to lose any sleep on who's right and who's wrong. You want to believe your right Aaron then more power to you...congradulations now go spread the word. Me? I am going to to just sit back and laugh this whole thing off and enjoy life and my HT setup.

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

Sony reps are salesmen, nothing more nothing less. If i am on a blank input on my HX850 i can see the zones working and the zones that are off. This naive misconception that only full array led sets have local dimming is wrong. Ok it doesn't have the 108 zones of the HX950 but it has more the the zero of the HX750.
But anyway will enjoy my 55HX850 and the local dimming and you enjoy your HX750.
Aaron

Originally Posted by steve1971 

Ok Aaron you enjoy your "local dimming" HX850 and I will enjoy my HX750 with Edge Lit dimming. Either way you look at it they are both excellent tv's that do what they are supposed to do and thats all that matters and I HOPE you would agree at least on that. Now lets call it a truce and move on.

Originally Posted by paulsmithy 

Just about to take the plunge with the 55" HX750 ater heaps of research. A couple of final queries though for those with experience:
1. How does it handle sport - any blurring at all?
2. How do SD broadcasts appear?
Many thanks

Originally Posted by steve1971 

After watching some SD channels last night I had to change my opinion on how SD broadcast channels look on my tv. They do look good at least a lot better then they did on my V5100. I dont like SD anymore period and I wish they would do away with it but unfortunatley they cant. As for how it handles Sports? All I know is I love watching football, Basketball and Baseball on my tv. I notice no blurring at all. I think you would like what you see on the HX750.

Originally Posted by decine 

Hi all.
I'm new with the HX750, which I Love.
But the fact is that in my set, there is also flashlighting, not as hard aswith some sets seen in photos round here, but flashlighting in any case.
I'm thinking on changing it for a new one, but I don't know what to do, just because it could be worse.
Are there sets, those appart form steve one ;-), flashlighting free?
Do they fade away with time?
Any way to make them decrease, apart from minimize backlight?
It is mainly visible when screen is black, and at night, in other case its almost impossible to notice it out.

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

Hey Steve, legitimate question here.
Under Picture settings - Advanced options, do you have a setting called LED Dynamic Control?
Aaron

Originally Posted by steve1971 

Hey decine,
With time flash lighting will go away at least it did with my old Sony V5100 and sometimes's not. I have read on some websites where people actually massaged the area where there was flashlighting and it went away or they fiddled with the screws on the back of the tv and that solved the problem. Or you can turn down the backlight which alot of people do as well. You can return it but like you said you may end up with a set thats worse or you may not. Its your call on that.
Just checked my tv for that buddy and yes it has a feature called LED Dynamic Control under Advanced Options. Good question.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone by the way!

Originally Posted by steve1971 



Hey decine,

With time flash lighting will go away at least it did with my old Sony V5100 and sometimes's not. I have read on some websites where people actually massaged the area where there was flashlighting and it went away or they fiddled with the screws on the back of the tv and that solved the problem. Or you can turn down the backlight which alot of people do as well. You can return it but like you said you may end up with a set thats worse or you may not. Its your call on that.



Just checked my tv for that buddy and yes it has a feature called LED Dynamic Control under Advanced Options. Good question.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone by the way!

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

Thanks Steve, that's interesting. Do you have 3 options ie off - low and standard? If so its very effective at improving black levels and reducing any edge bleed. I know you say you don't have any edge bleed though (you lucky devil) btw still if you don't have it on its really worth trying.
Happy thanks giving. : )
Aaron

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 

Thanks Steve, that's interesting. Do you have 3 options ie off - low and standard? If so its very effective at improving black levels and reducing any edge bleed. I know you say you don't have any edge bleed though (you lucky devil) btw still if you don't have it on its really worth trying.
Happy thanks giving. : )
Aaron

Originally Posted by kevin21 

Im scared to get this tv lol. i really am gonna use it for mostly gaming. ive tried 2 tvs from sharp n samsung and they both had input lag although it was small. i just need none at all. cod is so hard to play even with the smallest lag

Originally Posted by steve1971 

Hey Aaron I have mine set to low and yes its worth having on.

Originally Posted by steve1971 

These are the settings I am using on my 46HX750 and they really seem to fit my tv well. If anyone wants to give them a try on their tv here they are. I used them because I trust the CalMAN settings, It did wonders for my old Bravia 46V5100 as far PQ and black levels are concerned.
Software used for calibration: Spectracal CalMAN Pro V4.6.3
Source Generator: Sencore VP403
Meter: Sencore OTC1000
Reference Metere: i1Pro
Picture Adjustments:
Picture Mode Custom
Backlight: +5
Picture Mode: MAX
Brightness: +51
Color: +55
Hue: G1
Color Temperature: Warm2
Sharpness: +10
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot Noise Reduction: Off
MotionFlow Reduction: Off
CineMotion Reduction: Off
Screen Adjustment
Setting Memory: Current Input
Wide Mode: Off
Auto Wide: Off
4:3 Default: Off
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel
Screen Position:
Vertical Size: 0
White Balance:
R-Gain 0
G-Gain: 0
B-Gain: 0
B-Gain: 0
R-Bias: -1
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: 0
Advance Settings
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: Off
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off
White Balance: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off
i/p conversion Preference: Quality
Measured Contrast (with OTC1000)
100 IRE (Y): 57.0157
0 IRE (Y) 0.023
RATIO (x:1) 24789.9435

Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr 


Thanks Steve, that's interesting. Do you have 3 options ie off - low and standard?

Originally Posted by Danjen22 

Hi there, for those wondering how turn the the dynamic edge led option on I think I may have found the solution? After searching the Internet and getting no where I stumbled on the answer through the Sony site!
How to use Dynamic Edge LED?
Dynamic Edge LED works when [Adv. Contrast Enhancer] is set "High", "Medium" or "Low"
The setting menu is as follows.
[Home]-->[Display]-->[Picture]-->[Picture Mode]-->[Advanced Settings]-->[Adv. Contrast Enhancer]
or
[Option]-->[Picture]-->[Picture Mode]-->[Advanced Settings]-->[Adv. Contrast Enhancer]
Return back to ( KDL-40HX753 ) Tips and solutions
This is for the European model but is exactly the same tv apart from the last digit!
Hope this helps some people out there because I know this had been bugging the hell out of me!
On a side note- I've tried to post a link to the Sony site but it seems to think that the link does not exist so I have copy and pasted the page!