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post #601 of 1878
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

Going back to the response time/lag discussion from earlier... it was mentioned that a website stated the television has about 30ms lag time, right?
I wonder if they tinkered around with labelling the different sources to "PC" or "Game"
Yesterday i was reading on the LG LM7600 owner's thread and it was mentioned that testing done on that set provided about 33ms lag, but if you labeled the source to "PC" there was perceivably 0ms lag.
Sounds silly, BUT i definitely remember a very big discussion on the Samsung owner's thread for my current TV where they found the same thing to be true, and i seem to recall that a specific HDMI port to work better with this method (HDMI 2 i think).
Does anyone know if this has been tried on the HX750 model and what the results are?
Would be nice if there was a site out there that did extension testing for things like that on various sets for us gamers... haha

From my understanding that is specific to the LG and has been the same for a few years.

The Sony was tested in game mode.

Aaron
post #602 of 1878
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Originally Posted by Danediz View Post

Does this set have local dimming?

No it does not.
post #603 of 1878
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Originally Posted by Chris Isble View Post

Trying to use a soundbar (non Sony) with my HX750. I connected it using the optical digital audio output from the TV. When I go to Options, Speakers, and change from TV speakers to Audio System, I get no sound to the soundbar. How do I disable the TV speakers and still get audio output for the soundbar? Right now I have to leave the TV speakers active and turn their volume down to 0.

I spoke with Sony (e-mail support is useless). They told me that when the Speakers options is set to TV speakers, the digital audio output is supposed to be disabled. Switching the option to Audio System is supposed to both disable the TV speakers and enable the digital audio output.

My TV seems to have the digital audio output reversed. In an earlier post, Boatbuilder42 reported the same problem. Can anyone confirm that their TV is working as Sony describes?

The TV is actually my father-inlaw's, so I won't be in front of it again till Christmas, and I was unable to troubleshoot with Sony over the phone.
post #604 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Hey Steve, where i am at, tv is broadcast at 50hz, so not sure if that makes a difference but smooth or standard just look awful. People look like they are on fast forward. I only use standard for 3D blu rays because without it the flicker hurts my eyes, but that's another story.
For my needs clear is the sweet spot, very little backlight drop and motion just looks crisper. It is said in many reviews that the native motion resolution on these panels with no Motionflow is 300 lines, with it on smooth or standard around 700 and on clear, clear plus and impulse that goes up to 1080 lines. I think clear looks great, it's supposed to add backlight scanning to reset your eyes and i can see the benefit.
Its all about what you want from it tbh mate, it works for me though.


Hey Aaron set my tv to "clear" and your right motion looks much better and crisper. Thanks for the heads up buddy. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by Danediz View Post

Does this set have local dimming?

Nope, frame dimming only which I think works very well in fact, better then I first thought it would. Sony did an excellent job with their tv's in 2012.
Edited by steve1971 - 12/3/12 at 6:04am
post #605 of 1878
"Sony did an excellent job with their tv's in 2012."


I personally think their 2011 line was their best, unfortunately it also didn't help their bottom line which led them to taking measures in 2012 that I disagree with in regards to quality. Just my take though!

I am looking forward to how their 2013 line up performs.
post #606 of 1878
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Originally Posted by steve1971 View Post

Hey Aaron set my tv to "clear" and your right motion looks much better and crisper. Thanks for the heads up buddy. smile.gif

No worries mate, glad you like it : )
post #607 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gatorboi352 View Post

"Sony did an excellent job with their tv's in 2012."
I personally think their 2011 line was their best, unfortunately it also didn't help their bottom line which led them to taking measures in 2012 that I disagree with in regards to quality. Just my take though!
I am looking forward to how their 2013 line up performs.


From what I heard gator Sony wont be releasing many tv's in 2013. They will release about as many as they did this year. Sony is gearing up for OLED and 4K. I think their best tv in 2011 was the XBR 929 and the rest didnt live up to expectations thats why I think they took a hit and that is why I think they have scaled way back in tv production this year and 2013 looks to be the same as well.
post #608 of 1878
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Originally Posted by Chris Isble View Post

I spoke with Sony (e-mail support is useless). They told me that when the Speakers options is set to TV speakers, the digital audio output is supposed to be disabled. Switching the option to Audio System is supposed to both disable the TV speakers and enable the digital audio output.
My TV seems to have the digital audio output reversed. In an earlier post, Boatbuilder42 reported the same problem. Can anyone confirm that their TV is working as Sony describes?
The TV is actually my father-inlaw's, so I won't be in front of it again till Christmas, and I was unable to troubleshoot with Sony over the phone.

PLEASE let me know what you find out! I have posted out on other threads related to the HT-CT150 soundbar and haven't had much response. When I use my old simple JVC EX-D1 receiver and the audio out connection from my HX750... I have an endless supply of volume! I don't get it... when I used the optical out I was presented with having to turn the TV volume completely down and then adjust the volume on the sound bar. Whereas on my current set up through my JVC and the audio out on the HX750 I can control the volume with the TVs volume. Makes no sense to me... But Sony says that it should work how it does with the Audio out option? Even in the i-Manual on the HX750 it only indicates to use switch the speaker setting to Audio system. It's curious to me what it does not mention this in the Optical Out setting of i-manual. Has anyone else on the thread utilized a new soundbar or AVR with their HX750?
post #609 of 1878
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Originally Posted by boatbuilder42 View Post

PLEASE let me know what you find out! I have posted out on other threads related to the HT-CT150 soundbar and haven't had much response. When I use my old simple JVC EX-D1 receiver and the audio out connection from my HX750... I have an endless supply of volume! I don't get it... when I used the optical out I was presented with having to turn the TV volume completely down and then adjust the volume on the sound bar. Whereas on my current set up through my JVC and the audio out on the HX750 I can control the volume with the TVs volume. Makes no sense to me... But Sony says that it should work how it does with the Audio out option? Even in the i-Manual on the HX750 it only indicates to use switch the speaker setting to Audio system. It's curious to me what it does not mention this in the Optical Out setting of i-manual. Has anyone else on the thread utilized a new soundbar or AVR with their HX750?

I will be getting the HT-CT150 sound bar as well and will report back on my findings if it hasn't been resolved before my TV gets delivered
post #610 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

From my understanding that is specific to the LG and has been the same for a few years.
The Sony was tested in game mode.
Aaron

Why would that be specific to LG?

I know for a fact i can do this with my Samsung LCD...
post #611 of 1878
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

Why would that be specific to LG?
I know for a fact i can do this with my Samsung LCD...

Can't do it on my Samsung.

I can't do it on my Sony 55HX850 either
post #612 of 1878
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Originally Posted by boatbuilder42 View Post

PLEASE let me know what you find out! I have posted out on other threads related to the HT-CT150 soundbar and haven't had much response. When I use my old simple JVC EX-D1 receiver and the audio out connection from my HX750... I have an endless supply of volume! I don't get it... when I used the optical out I was presented with having to turn the TV volume completely down and then adjust the volume on the sound bar. Whereas on my current set up through my JVC and the audio out on the HX750 I can control the volume with the TVs volume. Makes no sense to me... But Sony says that it should work how it does with the Audio out option? Even in the i-Manual on the HX750 it only indicates to use switch the speaker setting to Audio system. It's curious to me what it does not mention this in the Optical Out setting of i-manual. Has anyone else on the thread utilized a new soundbar or AVR with their HX750?

Honestly, why aren't you using the ARC? The HT-CT150 has support for that. I have been using it with my Vizio HT215 and it's been working great. It auto detects the signal and switches to whatever audio is running on the tv, and my FiOS remote that's programmed for the tv also controls the sound bar.
post #613 of 1878
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Originally Posted by HaRd2BeAr View Post

Can't do it on my Samsung.
I can't do it on my Sony 55HX850 either

Oh wait... you mean you can't rename the source at all?

(Sorry if i misunderstood you, i don't have the TV just yet to check it myself)

Well, that's a bummer. :/
post #614 of 1878
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

Oh wait... you mean you can't rename the source at all?
(Sorry if i misunderstood you, i don't have the TV just yet to check it myself)
Well, that's a bummer. :/

Must confess, I misunderstood you, you can rename the input.

I take it back sorry.

Not sure if it makes a difference though.

Aaron
post #615 of 1878
Yep you can rename the inputs guys. That being said has anyone tried out Netflix on their tv yet? My wife and I resigned up for it, we get it for a month free, and I was surprised by how well Netflix looks on my HX750. Its not Blu ray quality mind you but it looks very good and to my surprise there were no "buffering" issues that I experienced when I ran Netflix through my BDP S570, a player that I still consider one of the best Blu ray players yet made by Sony and a player that I have yet to experience an issue with....except for Netflix that is. I never thought I would get back into the streaming movie thing again but watching Netflix on my HX750 has "maybe" made me a believer again in streaming movies. Hopefully I will get a PS3 for Christmas because gaming on the HX750 is so freakin cool. biggrin.gif
post #616 of 1878
So no one commented my post where i asked should I contact with my retailer.. I guess everyone got the same issues with this tv?
post #617 of 1878
I've similiar problems.

In my case it's a 46' which being smaller needs less light from the edge to work.

I've notice that If it is in it's 8 degreee mounted position, you can see more light bleeding from the left top corner, while if it's flat mounted it's less visible, but both two down corners still bleeding the same.

The fact is that if the room is lighted you can't notice the problem. I can see it only in dark room and mainly with dark content.

I don't know if there are absolutely free bleeding sets in that dark conditions, but i'd REALLY like to know
post #618 of 1878
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Originally Posted by decine View Post

I've similiar problems.
In my case it's a 46' which being smaller needs less light from the edge to work.
I've notice that If it is in it's 8 degreee mounted position, you can see more light bleeding from the left top corner, while if it's flat mounted it's less visible, but both two down corners still bleeding the same.
The fact is that if the room is lighted you can't notice the problem. I can see it only in dark room and mainly with dark content.
I don't know if there are absolutely free bleeding sets in that dark conditions, but i'd REALLY like to know

decine I can tell you with all confidence that I have zero light bleed with my 46HX750 and my wife and I watch alot of movies in the dark at night with no lights on at all. Trust me if my tv had it I would say it because I know light bleed is something that I had to deal with with my old Sony V5100 it irritated the crap out of me at times. It was not bad and you couldnt notice it unless we had all the lights off but I wasnt happy because I am a stickler for perfection and if I pay alot of money for something I want it perfect or at least near perfect. I bought my HX750 in September and its as perfect as I could want.....no clouding and no light bleed.
post #619 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gnuf View Post

Honestly, why aren't you using the ARC? The HT-CT150 has support for that. I have been using it with my Vizio HT215 and it's been working great. It auto detects the signal and switches to whatever audio is running on the tv, and my FiOS remote that's programmed for the tv also controls the sound bar.

I did use it!!! It was great for the video switching... the problem was that volume of the sound bar was so weak! UNTIL you use the RCA audio outs on the TV and use the rca inputs on the soundbar... THEN you have an endless amount of volume that just keeps increasing and increasing. You can set the soundbar to MAX volume and then control the volume through the TV remote.
When I used the HDMI ARC I could crank it to MAX volume and be left wanting more. Also another annoying thing was that the 150 sound bar would not auto turn on automatically when the TV was turned on. Tried everything to get that to work... you'd think with the HDMI ARC capabilities that this would be possible.
post #620 of 1878
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Originally Posted by boatbuilder42 View Post

I did use it!!! It was great for the video switching... the problem was that volume of the sound bar was so weak! UNTIL you use the RCA audio outs on the TV and use the rca inputs on the soundbar... THEN you have an endless amount of volume that just keeps increasing and increasing. You can set the soundbar to MAX volume and then control the volume through the TV remote.
When I used the HDMI ARC I could crank it to MAX volume and be left wanting more. Also another annoying thing was that the 150 sound bar would not auto turn on automatically when the TV was turned on. Tried everything to get that to work... you'd think with the HDMI ARC capabilities that this would be possible.

Thank you VERY much for posting info on this sound bar, i should be receiving mine in a week or so.

I've read several user reviews that the audio from the sound bar was very weak... sound itself was quiet and bass was lacking. Then some people say that it literally rattles the walls?! I wonder if it all comes down to how the device is connected to the source. Crazy.

Keep us(me) posted on your progress on getting this worked out, i am very very curious.
post #621 of 1878
My 55HX750 arrived on Sunday. LOVE IT! Might be a hint of lag in Game Mode, but it's fine for Halo and the sort, single player, which is what I really care about. I haven't noticed flashlights or clouding yet and I'm going to avoid going looking for them. The settings I'm on give some SOE; thinking about changing them, but the picture looks great to me and the black detail is there. So, love it.
post #622 of 1878
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

Thank you VERY much for posting info on this sound bar, i should be receiving mine in a week or so.
I've read several user reviews that the audio from the sound bar was very weak... sound itself was quiet and bass was lacking. Then some people say that it literally rattles the walls?! I wonder if it all comes down to how the device is connected to the source. Crazy.
Keep us(me) posted on your progress on getting this worked out, i am very very curious.

Yes I read the same reviews and couldn't believe people thought it was loud. If you want it to get loud... use the RCAs. I don't know why it's able to have an endless amount of volume when hooked up through the RCAs but it is. I wonder if increasing the volume from the source (the TV) just continuously amps the signal being sent to the receiver? Not sure how that works but would have been nice if it behaved the same way through HDMI OR Optical output on the HX750. Let us know your experience when you receive your 150.
post #623 of 1878
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Originally Posted by gnuf View Post

Honestly, why aren't you using the ARC? The HT-CT150 has support for that. I have been using it with my Vizio HT215 and it's been working great. It auto detects the signal and switches to whatever audio is running on the tv, and my FiOS remote that's programmed for the tv also controls the sound bar.

There's no power in the sound when using ARC. Which is what I don't understand and looking for possible explanation. Have you tried using the Analog in on the Vizio HT215? If you have a 3.5mm to analog cable give it a whirl. Your sound bar will come to life.

Also what is nice is that the volume level on your tv when using the analog out will only have to be turned up to 15-20 on the scale. I hated having to crank the level when using the HDMI to over 60 to get it loud. Anyway I reverted to just using my JVC EX-D1 and it's Analog signal.
post #624 of 1878
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Originally Posted by b_humbug View Post

My 55HX750 arrived on Sunday. LOVE IT! Might be a hint of lag in Game Mode, but it's fine for Halo and the sort, single player, which is what I really care about. I haven't noticed flashlights or clouding yet and I'm going to avoid going looking for them. The settings I'm on give some SOE; thinking about changing them, but the picture looks great to me and the black detail is there. So, love it.

Say what... even a hint of game lag won't do for me. O_o

If i get this TV and feel lag, i am totally sending it back... not even joking.

My current Samsung has pretty much 0 lag and i'm not about to downgrade in that department.

Nope.
post #625 of 1878
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Originally Posted by boatbuilder42 View Post

Yes I read the same reviews and couldn't believe people thought it was loud. If you want it to get loud... use the RCAs. I don't know why it's able to have an endless amount of volume when hooked up through the RCAs but it is. I wonder if increasing the volume from the source (the TV) just continuously amps the signal being sent to the receiver? Not sure how that works but would have been nice if it behaved the same way through HDMI OR Optical output on the HX750. Let us know your experience when you receive your 150.

I am not that technical when it comes to televisions and i have no idea what i'm talking about here, but could it be possible that its the actual cable itself you are using that isn't passing the audio back correctly or something?

I have HDMI cables i bought in 2007 and only since purchasing this TV have i realized just how old they are and that i need to upgrade them as well haha

Time to hit up Monoprice when i get paid this next check :P
post #626 of 1878
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Originally Posted by boatbuilder42 View Post

There's no power in the sound when using ARC. Which is what I don't understand and looking for possible explanation. Have you tried using the Analog in on the Vizio HT215? If you have a 3.5mm to analog cable give it a whirl. Your sound bar will come to life.
Also what is nice is that the volume level on your tv when using the analog out will only have to be turned up to 15-20 on the scale. I hated having to crank the level when using the HDMI to over 60 to get it loud. Anyway I reverted to just using my JVC EX-D1 and it's Analog signal.

I haven't had that problem at all. I'm going totally through the ARC and my tv volume rocker changes the volume directly on the sound bar. Are you used the HDMI 1 port and the ARC labelled port on your soundbar? I have to keep it below 11 or the walls start shaking and the neigbors come knocking.
post #627 of 1878
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Originally Posted by splattered View Post

I am not that technical when it comes to televisions and i have no idea what i'm talking about here, but could it be possible that its the actual cable itself you are using that isn't passing the audio back correctly or something?
I have HDMI cables i bought in 2007 and only since purchasing this TV have i realized just how old they are and that i need to upgrade them as well haha
Time to hit up Monoprice when i get paid this next check :P

That's a great point. I think you need HDMI 1.4, so older cables might not be working properly.

I got mine from Amazon for $6
post #628 of 1878
I used 3 - high Speed HDMI Cables w/Ferrite Cores from monoprice.

Yes I had it hooked up correctly. I had HDMI from cable box to the SAT/CATV in on the soundbar. Blu Ray into the soundbar HDMI input and then the HMDI ARC out to the HDMI ARC in on the back of the HX750. I had ALL settings correct for the HDMI passthru and ARC.

Also the volume bar displayed on the TV was different than what it shows when you use the analog audio out or the optical out. The volume bar was much bigger and as stated... I had to crank it on the TV into the 60 range.... And the volume would increase on the display of the 150 until I hit max. It was also annoying that the volume level on the TV did not match the volume number on the soundbar.... but this had to be due to the fact that the soundbar when to 50 as it's max. The TV goes to 100. So yes the HDMI ARC was working.

When you say 11 as the volume level is that what it shows on the TV volume or is that the volume level on the soundbar?
Edited by boatbuilder42 - 12/6/12 at 11:27am
post #629 of 1878
Has anybody gotten their KDL-55hx750 to play nicely with Directvs 3D channels? I am having hard time finding any reliable information on the subject.
post #630 of 1878
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Originally Posted by mrmogway View Post

Has anybody gotten their KDL-55hx750 to play nicely with Directvs 3D channels? I am having hard time finding any reliable information on the subject.


My 46HX750 has no problems with Directv's 3D channels. Whats seems to be the problem your having or what info do you need? If you need any help let me know.
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