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post #31 of 52
3/18/12 at 7:29am
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

And, check back before you buy a sub - no need to brand match subs.

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Read this post in the AVS subwoofer forum and seek recommendations there when you are ready to buy. The sub enthusiasts in that forum will know the current specials and how to get the best deal for your money.
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post #32 of 52
3/18/12 at 7:51am
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What are you interested in the silver speakers for? Making a 5.0 setup out of them? If you are against the idea of a sub, then I would get those towers with 8" drivers instead because they'll pretty much work without a sub (depending on your expectations) but the satellites will definately need a sub.

I'm definitely not *against* the idea of a sub (I'd probably appreciate one, although my wife may not). I'm just not sure where I'd put it. Here's a view of the space I have to work with:



I'd like to get the bookshelves off the top of the ec unit and was going to put the floor standing speakers on either side. I could try to cram a small sub in the back left corner behind a floor speaker, but I was hoping to avoid that as I want there to be a sense of space in the general area (as much as possible).
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post #33 of 52
3/18/12 at 7:53am
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By the way, those BiC DV62i bookshelf speakers that I got for $115 on Amazon a while back sound better on my set up than the Klipsch HD Theater 1000 which I sent back.
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post #34 of 52
3/18/12 at 8:00am
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I'd like to get the bookshelves off the top of the ec unit and was going to put the floor standing speakers on either side. I could try to cram a small sub in the back left corner behind a floor speaker, but I was hoping to avoid that as I want there to be a sense of space in the general area (as much as possible).

If you are not going to rearrange the living area, then I would forget
about tower speakers. The tower is going to sound poor in that left
corner. You will need bookshelf speakers or wall-mount speakers, and
a sub, even maybe a wireless sub - so you can place the sub in another
part of the room.
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post #35 of 52
3/18/12 at 8:01am
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What are you interested in the silver speakers for? Making a 5.0 setup out of them?

Yes, for surround in TV/movies.
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post #36 of 52
3/18/12 at 8:01am
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I'm definitely not *against* the idea of a sub (I'd probably appreciate one, although my wife may not).

A sub could work well along the wall with the plug.
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post #37 of 52
3/18/12 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

A sub could work well along the wall with the plug.

Yes it can.
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post #38 of 52
3/18/12 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

If you are not going to rearrange the living area, then I would forget
about tower speakers. The tower is going to sound poor in that left
corner. You will need bookshelf speakers or wall-mount speakers, and
a sub, even maybe a wireless sub - so you can place the sub in another
part of the room.

Thanks Jim. I should have posted this picture from the beginning and asked what would work/sound best in this space. Sorry.

Ok, so...with that in mind, do you have any recommendations as to a configuration around $1000 or under which would sound good and not require my having big bookshelves on the the top of the cabinet?
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post #39 of 52
3/18/12 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by future_man View Post

Ok, so...with that in mind, do you have any recommendations as to a configuration around $1000 or under which would sound good and not require my having big bookshelves on the the top of the cabinet?

Compromise is the name of the game - and you want something that
will sound better than your former sub/sat system - and since you are
not looking for the high volume game.

One option - wall mount speakers

EMP http://www.emptek.com/ew30.php

NHT http://www.nhthifi.com/Home-Theater-...&category=7166

HTD http://www.htd.com/Products/flat-pan...-panel-speaker

Plus, the Boston SoundWare for surrounds, if you can work it out.

I would take the KEF system, over the Klipsch system
http://www.accessories4less.com/make...n-Black/1.html

Epik sub http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/legend.html

HSU sub http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2-mk4.html

Boston sub http://www.accessories4less.com/make...k/1.html#!more

If the wife can live with the looks
Rythmik sub http://www.rythmikaudio.com/FV12.html

Subwoofer kits at Parts Express - for exploration
http://www.parts-express.com/wizards...AT&srchCat=536
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post #40 of 52
3/18/12 at 12:11pm
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Thanks Jim.

I'm willing to spend the money on good sat/sub system if the value and sound is there.

The KEF-Kht2005.3-5.1 should work in my space, but will it sound a lot better than than Klipsch system I had?

I also saw the KEF-Kht5005.2 for a little more.

The wall mounts is an interesting idea. My wife was originally against them, but she's coming around, and I think the NHT Absolute Wall Speaker could work well. As you said, I could add the Boston Soundware's in the rear/ceiling, right?

Those look like some great subs. A couple of considerations:

1) The Yamaha receiver only has a single RCA subwoofer cable out. Does that matter?

2) The width of the space on the left side of the cabinet is just over 14 inches, so I'd probably have to go with a 14" max width sub.

Would a config like the above sound better than the discussed KEF sat/sub systems?

John
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post #41 of 52
3/18/12 at 12:22pm
http://emptek.com/MarchMadness.php

Look at some of these speakers.
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post #42 of 52
3/18/12 at 12:53pm
Based on what I can see from your picture, a small sub with one of those satellite packages is really going to struggle in your room to produce any bass. Sub performance is tied to the entire room size--including additional open areas. The HSU and Epik sub that zieglj01 linked to (I'm not familiar with the Boston one) would be much better for that size space. You might also look at the Rythmik FV12 or Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus. If your budget is tight, the BIC PL-200 can be had for a bid of $280 (although the others are certainly better in SQ).
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post #43 of 52
3/18/12 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by future_man View Post

I'm willing to spend the money on good sat/sub system if the value and sound is there.
The KEF-Kht2005.3-5.1 should work in my space, but will it sound a lot better than than Klipsch system I had?
I also saw the KEF-Kht5005.2 for a little more.
The wall mounts is an interesting idea. My wife was originally against them, but she's coming around, and I think the NHT Absolute Wall Speaker could work well. As you said, I could add the Boston Soundware's in the rear/ceiling, right?
Those look like some great subs. A couple of considerations:
1) The Yamaha receiver only has a single RCA subwoofer cable out. Does that matter?
2) The width of the space on the left side of the cabinet is just over 14 inches, so I'd probably have to go with a 14" max width sub.
Would a config like the above sound better than the discussed KEF sat/sub systems?

John

I like the KEF sub/sat systems. I have owned and listened to a few
NHT items, except the on-wall - I am not concerned about their on
wall speakers - they should sound good, I have not heard a bad NHT
speaker yet. For the money HTD is good. I like KEF, NHT and HTD,
more than Klipsch - the Egg speakers can get loud. My preference is
NHT or KEF 2005.3

One sub out option on your receiver, is all you need for subs. I would
stay open to the idea of putting the sub, by the side wall and out of
the corner. If you compromise and stuff the sub in the corner, then I
prefer a front firing sealed design, or non rear-firing ported design. It
can get some what boom and boomy in the corner, next to the cabinet.

If you do not go for sub/sat, then the Boston for surrounds will work.
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post #44 of 52
3/18/12 at 4:24pm
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You guys have been really amazing...and patient. I'm going to order the KEF 2005.3 system and put the sub on the side away from the enclosed corner. I'll let you know how it all sounds when I get it set up.

Hey Jim, where are you in Texas? I'm in Austin.

John
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post #45 of 52
3/18/12 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by future_man View Post

You guys have been really amazing...and patient. I'm going to order the KEF 2005.3 system and put the sub on the side away from the enclosed corner. I'll let you know how it all sounds when I get it set up.

Hey Jim, where are you in Texas? I'm in Austin.

The system is nice, and the sub is decent for the size >>
Just remember, it will not be the biggest or loudest sub. The UK
area had problems with the sub around 2009, and it seems to be
mostly with Onkyo receivers. I do not believe it has an auto on
and off switch - since you will have it out of the corner, you will
be able to cut it off. It does have a sensor at the input and it will
mute, if it does not detect a bass signal within 15 minutes. It will
pick back up, when it receives a bass signal. Still, better to cut it
off when not playing anything.

The only thing I see, is that it is an open box and not refurbish.
Make sure there is nothing wrong with it - you do have a return
policy.

I live near Houston
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post #46 of 52
3/19/12 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

The system is nice, and the sub is decent for the size >>
Just remember, it will not be the biggest or loudest sub. The UK
area had problems with the sub around 2009, and it seems to be
mostly with Onkyo receivers. I do not believe it has an auto on
and off switch - since you will have it out of the corner, you will
be able to cut it off. It does have a sensor at the input and it will
mute, if it does not detect a bass signal within 15 minutes. It will
pick back up, when it receives a bass signal. Still, better to cut it
off when not playing anything.

I think I'll be okay with the sub size. Good to know about the no auto switch and turning it off between uses.
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post #47 of 52
3/19/12 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by future_man View Post

I think I'll be okay with the sub size. Good to know about the no auto switch and turning it off between uses.

Just make sure you order the one with the bigger Kube 2 sub,
and not the Kube 1.
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post #48 of 52
3/27/12 at 10:37am
Can you explain that a little more about the ohms? why is 6 better than 8? I've searched around and cant really get a clear answer to my question.

Some people tell me eight is the best but dont say why and other say that when its rated at 6 ohms it has lower Hz than and 8 ohms setup would have (If converted to 8 ohms to match)
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post #49 of 52
3/27/12 at 7:25pm
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post #50 of 52
4/12/12 at 7:49am
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I wanted to write a quick note to follow up here and say that I've spent the last couple of weeks with my new KEF 2005.3 sat/sub system and its great for my needs. No comparison to the aforementioned Klipsch sat/sub system that I had before.

The egg speakers do get loud and seem to handle well, and the cube sub provides plenty of low end for the room. The components seem solid and have a cool retro/modern thing going on.

Anyways...thanks again for all of the help here.
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post #51 of 52
4/12/12 at 8:19am
^^^^
Thank you for checking back in - continue to enjoy and have fun.
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post #52 of 52
4/12/12 at 8:34am
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I should also mention that I found a pretty good price on an open-box deal - and haven't found any issue so far.
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