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Is Non-IR Control of My System Possible With Ipad remote Programs?

post #1 of 10
3/17/12 at 12:15am
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I have been reading all about the various apps that allow remote control of your system through an Ipad - I have purchased IRule HD for this purpose - but I am still not clear on a few things. Is it possible to control my devices without using IR codes or commands?

I have the following:
Panasonic TCP-60GT30 TV - has an ethernet port and is seen by the network
Pioneer VSX-1021 receiver - which has its own TCP IP control app
Arris Gateway Cable box and PVR - the ethernet isn't connected with this
HTPC with Imon by Soundgraph controlling it - keyboard commands work to control it as well as IR commands
PS3 for playing blu-rays.

I am wondering if any of the remote programs will allow me to control the HTPC, receiver, and TV through the network connection?

I am going to rule out the PS3 working in this way and I can live with that.

I will also assume that the Arris box won't be controlled this way either. Am I best served to get IR blasters for these devices and the box required to receive the signal and convert it and just set them up in front of both devices? I should note I have the IR to bluetooth converter for the PS3.

My goal is to be able to control everything from the other room if I fancy it - or from my couch when my 3 year old is in the middle of a direct line of sight and the IR won't work.

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post #2 of 10
3/17/12 at 7:31am
I am not an IRule user but I have heard good things. The issue at hand with any Ipad or network control programming is if the devices that you want to control are capable of such functions thru IP Control.

You'll need to investigate if the devices are capable. Older products will likely not be and you will need an interface of some sort to convert the IP commands to IR.

Global Cache appears to be the most popular interface for these types of programs. In fact here is the link to these products from iRule's website.

http://www.iruleathome.com/store.html

A tip from another forum member is to use HDMI CEC control for the PS3. If your tv offers this control protocol you should be able to use the tv to control your PS3. Panasonic may use a different name for that control protocol but it should function the same way. If that does not work your only option is a Blu to IR adapter of some sort or a cheap usb dongle. The USB option will not offer on off control.
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post #3 of 10
3/17/12 at 9:41am
Sounds like you may be over-thinking this. If LOS is the problem you are trying to solve, then iRule will do it. Any IP or RF solution will do it. You just put blasters on all your devices. They don't have work with native IP control. Very few devices do. So IP to IR is how most systems are going to work.
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post #4 of 10
3/17/12 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Sounds like you may be over-thinking this. If LOS is the problem you are trying to solve, then iRule will do it. Any IP or RF solution will do it. You just put blasters on all your devices. They don't have work with native IP control. Very few devices do. So IP to IR is how most systems are going to work.

I may be mistaken, but most people are using the global cache boxes to go from ip to ir or RS232 control when using iRule.
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post #5 of 10
3/17/12 at 4:12pm
I think the OP and I are aware of that. I was just trying to make the point that there is no way to go from iRule to most devices via IP only, with nothing in between, like global cache. Does it not send IR as well, and can you not add blasters?
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post #6 of 10
3/17/12 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Does it not send IR as well, and can you not add blasters?

Sorry about that. I wasn't trying to state the obvious. Just not sure if the OP was aware of the GC products.

Also, pardon my ignorance, but I'm not sure which device you were asking about with sending IR (in the section quoted above).
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post #7 of 10
3/17/12 at 7:16pm
On second thought, I was probably assuming too much. You're correct that the OP may not be aware of the GC piece of the puzzle. My question is to confirm the GC comes with a couple of IR blasters.
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post #8 of 10
3/17/12 at 10:19pm
Not sure if any emitters come in the box with the GC units, but they have the standard 1/8th" jack on them accepting a slew of emitters by the likes of niles, xantech, etc.
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post #9 of 10
3/18/12 at 2:10am
My GC IPIR came with one blaster and three single head flashers in the box.
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post #10 of 10
3/18/12 at 10:16am
Although I bought mine used, I believe that the GC-100 doesn't come with any sensors at all.
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