Originally Posted by Ross Ridge
It was ment to be Apple's entry into the living room, and completely transform how people watched TV. But what it was intended to accomplish doesn't really matter here. What's important is that it's the exact same sort of thing as what has proposed in this thread to be a disruptive technology if implemented in AV receiver market.
I never "used" any articles old or new.And please respond, why are you're mindlessly defending the Apple TV, ignoring what I've actually written and instead making up things I didn't actually say?
Actually, that was a rhetorical question, on the odd chance you actually read it, please don't bother responding.
Actually, you are right about one thing, you did not post the article post in post#42, you just responded to it with no comment about its accuracy or timeliness.
For that I apologize.
As for mindless, I don't think saying that a product with growing sales, multiple generations and outside revenue stream is not a failure is mindless.
Also, you have to keep in mind how long it might take for a product to take off. Let's look at iPod sales:
So yes, the Apple TV is growing slower than many other products, but it has a growth rate that Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc would be thrilled to have.
Again, I do apologize for the error in saying that you used an out of date article when all you did was simply agree with it. My error.
Actually, I am getting off discussing what the original poster commented about. Also, I am getting off the point that I am concerned about: bad, user hostile engineering.
For my Pioneer receiver, I hooked up Speaker B, pushed the button on the remote and nothing came out.
I then when through the process of verifying the speaker was not the issue. That took time.
I then reread the manual, no comments of use. That took time.
I then got on the AVSforum, posted a message, got no answers that solved my problem. That took time
I did more searching of the AVSforum and someone had a similar issue and they said they thought they had an answer, but they didn't say that they tested and it worked. They also did say what the critical piece of the puzzle was.
I then had to do a reset on the receiver and go in and look at all of its settings. That took time.
I then had to rerun the room correction. That took time
I then had to look at what setting was changed and modify that. That took time.
Finally, I was able to use the receiver as the manual stated.
Now aside from the Speaker B feature being as user friendly as Klingon Pain Stick, the manual leads you to think that it is really just plug and play, when it isn't.
I think manuals should describe things accurately, which this one didn't. When manuals are inaccurate and poorly written, that takes my time.
When a feature requires you to reset your system and take notes, that is ridiculous.
So why am I disgusted with some products: because they don't do their job as described. If my boss had to go through that much effort for me to do a test in the lab (I am an analytical chemist by training), I think he would get pretty upset.
I spent two and a half years doing a couple of jobs that totally disrupted my life. One job had me working two days a week on second shift, one day a week from noon to 830Pm and two days a week on first. Also, one of the first shift days was always a weekend day and the days were set up so that I never had two days off in a row.
Then, I worked a job for a year (I was laid off and had to find new work) that was second shift Friday to Tuesday. I saw my wife seven hours a week and I had essentially all the rest of my social life taken from me. And I spent a huge amount of my time off looking for a new job, which I did find and I am blessed with
So you need to understand, I show no sympathy for bad engineering that takes the most valuable thing we have from us: time.
So yeah, when people say the product is not so bad, you need to just spend hours reading manuals, experimenting, getting on line and experimenting some more, that is mindless and negligent.Let me be clear, I am not bitter about my jobs or my Pioneer receiver. I am actually the happiest person I know because my life is so good now and I would certainly consider another Pioneer receiver. I just realize that time is a precious thing and bad engineering and documentation that waste time is really shouldn't be tolerated.