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post #1231 of 4279
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Originally Posted by MrTorino351 View Post

So if I have a large screen that will judder more,why in gods name can't I turn judder canceller on when I want!?!? My c7000 eats this tv in picture quality, playing games like first person shooters is terrible,I want it to be smooth like the c7000.

This is really annoying me,could a firmware update enable it?

Do you have the firmware update from may 13th? It's on the samsung support site if your tv doesn't automatically find it online. You can save it to a usb memory stick and update the tv that way. The release notes do mention improved picture quality.
post #1232 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Wizziwig View Post

No disagreement there...every set has a "golden sample" but doing simple math the odds are not in your favor and not worth the aggravation. There are numerous reports of people hearing buzzing even after 3 sets. Even if their 4th set was buzz-free, that's at least 75% chance of getting a buzzer. In reality maybe the 4th, 5th, etc. would also buzz so the odds could be much worse. That's why I don't recommend people sensitive to buzzing go through needless exchanges and put a burden on retailers. Just try a different brand/model.

That's not simple math you're using, it's imaginary math. Those are not even close to the chances involved...
post #1233 of 4279
Just got my 60E7000 yesterday, got it out of the box, installed the stand, set it up and plugged it in to my APC power conditioner, connected the HDMI cable from my SAT receiver, turned it on and BUZZ, BUZZ, BUZZ. I'm just sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out why Samsung let's this happen. The last 3 generations of Samsung plasma's the C, D, and now the E model plasma's have had buzzing problems that they seem to do nothing to fix.

I did my homework before I brought this plasma, I knew about the "Samsung Buzz" I read this forum and the other threads regarding Samsung plasma's and this issue. I went to Best Buy and other store's to try to find out what this buzzing was but I did not hear it in any of the store displays that I watched and listened to. I thought that by now they must be aware of the problem and done something about it but apparently not. I don't get it, doesn't anybody at Samsung have ears to hear this or are they like a alcoholic in denial about their alcoholism. Is this "See no evil", Hear no evil? I took a chance that maybe I would be one of the lucky few that doesn't get a buzzer because I was that impressed with the picture quality of the E7000 over the other makes and models, but alas I am now that owner of one myself.

The picture quality of the E7000 is outstanding but the buzzing ruins everything, where it not for that the E7000 AND E8000 would be as close to perfection as I have ever seen a display get. Now I have to decide on whether I want to go thru the weary cycle of returning E7000 after E7000 trying to get one that doesn't buzz or just give up now and get another brand, probably an LG 60PM9700 as I don't like the picture quality of the Panasonic ST50, GT50 and even the VT50 models. As you know, the buzzing is not the "normal" plasma buzz " that all plasma's make. This is a buzzing at least 3x that and it does not sound normal, I'm sitting at least 8 to 10 feet away from the television and I can hear it distinctly, even above the whine of my dorm room size refrigerator's compressor sitting right next to it. I even have Tinnitus "ringing in the ears" and I can hear this buzz unmistakeably. I'll call Samsung Customer Support Tomorrow and see what they have to say. I'll probably get some clueless non-entity who knows nothing about electronics who will probably give me their pre-programed responses that they read from a card in front of them, that the buzzing I'm hearing is "normal" and that all plasma's make this sound etc. etc. But I'm not going to go for it and will demand answers and action. Maybe I'll tell them of my Sony KDS-60A3000 saga, where Sony deliberately sold defective SXRD RPTV's and had a class action law suit filed against them and had to settle the suit and that cost Sony a lot of money. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1254481
Please tell what you did with your Samsung E7000/8000 Buzzing problem.
post #1234 of 4279
I have a neighbor who has 3 Samsung plasmas and buzzing is not an issue for him on any of his sets. He says he can hear it sometimes when there is a bright picture on the screen. I watched tv at his house several times and I haven't noticed anything. Since you just got the tv yesterday I imagine you are able to return it within the store's return policy. I know it's a hassle but not the end of the world.

I have 2 Panasonic plasmas myself and have never heard buzzing. I am thinking about upgrading my den to a 64E7000.
post #1235 of 4279
Don't know if this helps but here is a part of review from a verified purchaser on Amzaon related to buzzing:

I have to talk about buzzing. My 2011 model does not buzz unless I put some really low end standard TV, old movies in. During extreme HD content, it is whisper quiet. It is plasma and they run hotter. I stand minimum 10 feet away from both TV's.

The new 2012 model did BUZZ out of the box. I turned down the lamp power from max 20 to 15 and have not heard anything since. Also, I plugged in all the HD content and it handles HD perfectly, only when I put on HBO and they playing old movies from the 90s, I do hear some struggle. It is as if the TV struggles to handle the lower quality of color.
post #1236 of 4279
Sorry if I seem rude,I'm just frustrated.I know how to set up my equipment.everything running hdmi,ps3,360 and pc. Games that are the worst are first person shooters like fallout and skyrim,turning even at a moderate speed leaves trails/judder.its not smooth at all.car games are ok because its not panning very quick. I know judder canceller has some undesirable effects,but id rather a smooth picture with some artifacts than what its like now.I don't mind the soap opera effect,it smoothes out the picture great.

Ota seems to be quite blocky and blurry.except on channel one and a few others,I don't expect it to look perfect,that isn't my problem,watching a late night movie on channel one looks nearly as good as a blu ray. I just want to be able to turn on judder canceller,that's all.

Why they would remove that feature is beyond me,especially on there top line rig with a massive screen.

And I'm not just a noob not knowing what I'm doing. Iv had a 55inch c7000 lcd, 58inch c7000 plasma and now this,so I know what I'm looking at in terms of pq.

Surely it wouldn't take much to add the feature with firmware
post #1237 of 4279
All 1080p res as well. Oh,my tv does Buzz a little bit on white screens but its not really noticeable unless your close,and my c7000 was the same.it wasn't a bad buzz
post #1238 of 4279
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Originally Posted by airman23 View Post

Just got my 60E7000 yesterday, got it out of the box, installed the stand, set it up and plugged it in to my APC power conditioner, connected the HDMI cable from my SAT receiver, turned it on and BUZZ, BUZZ, BUZZ. I'm just sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out why Samsung let's this happen. The last 3 generations of Samsung plasma's the C, D, and now the E model plasma's have had buzzing problems that they seem to do nothing to fix.

I did my homework before I brought this plasma, I knew about the "Samsung Buzz" I read this forum and the other threads regarding Samsung plasma's and this issue. I went to Best Buy and other store's to try to find out what this buzzing was but I did not hear it in any of the store displays that I watched and listened to. I thought that by now they must be aware of the problem and done something about it but apparently not. I don't get it, doesn't anybody at Samsung have ears to hear this or are they like a alcoholic in denial about their alcoholism. Is this "See no evil", Hear no evil? I took a chance that maybe I would be one of the lucky few that doesn't get a buzzer because I was that impressed with the picture quality of the E7000 over the other makes and models, but alas I am now that owner of one myself.

The picture quality of the E7000 is outstanding but the buzzing ruins everything, where it not for that the E7000 AND E8000 would be as close to perfection as I have ever seen a display get. Now I have to decide on whether I want to go thru the weary cycle of returning E7000 after E7000 trying to get one that doesn't buzz or just give up now and get another brand, probably an LG 60PM9700 as I don't like the picture quality of the Panasonic ST50, GT50 and even the VT50 models. As you know, the buzzing is not the "normal" plasma buzz " that all plasma's make. This is a buzzing at least 3x that and it does not sound normal, I'm sitting at least 8 to 10 feet away from the television and I can hear it distinctly, even above the whine of my dorm room size refrigerator's compressor sitting right next to it. I even have Tinnitus "ringing in the ears" and I can hear this buzz unmistakeably. I'll call Samsung Customer Support Tomorrow and see what they have to say. I'll probably get some clueless non-entity who knows nothing about electronics who will probably give me their pre-programed responses that they read from a card in front of them, that the buzzing I'm hearing is "normal" and that all plasma's make this sound etc. etc. But I'm not going to go for it and will demand answers and action. Maybe I'll tell them of my Sony KDS-60A3000 saga, where Sony deliberately sold defective SXRD RPTV's and had a class action law suit filed against them and had to settle the suit and that cost Sony a lot of money. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1254481
Please tell what you did with your Samsung E7000/8000 Buzzing problem.

i have two plasmas pn50c7000 no buzz i have a pn60e8000 no buzz have you tried everything it might be your environment i read on here where people replace set after set ???? maybe it's not the TV i went to three best buy's to try to hear this buzz thing no buzz there i had a sub woofer that would buzz humm i changed the cable and now no hummmmm or buzz coming from the sub
have you done a sound test in the self diagnosis
post #1239 of 4279
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Originally Posted by bargervais View Post

i have two plasmas pn50c7000 no buzz i have a pn60e8000 no buzz have you tried everything it might be your environment i read on here where people replace set after set ???? maybe it's not the TV i went to three best buy's to try to hear this buzz thing no buzz there i had a sub woofer that would buzz humm i changed the cable and now no hummmmm or buzz coming from the sub
have you done a sound test in the self diagnosis

No, It's the E7000 all right. As most people with this problem have reported, the buzz is directional. If you sit off center and back you won't hear it too much but when you sit front and center from it about 8 to 10 feet, there it is and it's dammed annoying. I'm actually torn somewhat about returning it as I love the picture quality of the E7000 so much, it's either keep it and learn to live with the buzzing or return it and try again but as most people have reported on this forum and others, the replacement D/E 7000 or 8000 they get buzzes just as bad. Some have tried as many as 4 or more replacements with no satisfaction. Like others, I paid 2k for this television, that's a lot of money to me and I want to be happy and satisfied with what I brought but that damn buzzing, that damn buzzing.

It is particularly evident at night when it's quiet, then you can really home in on it. Being a good military man I of course had a contingency plan ready to implement. The LG 60PM9700 is my alternate choice, it has to me the picture quality as close to the E7000 as I can find, not as good as the E7000 but better than the Panasonic's in my opinion. That is why I choose to purchase the E7000 from Crutchfield.com. They have a 60 day return for any reason policy. I thought ahead before I received the E7000 just in case I did get a buzzer which I did. That would give me some time to evaluate and think over the situation. I don't see the use in going through 4 or more E7000's trying to find one that doesn't buzz. Maybe I can learn to live with this but there is a principal involved. After paying 2k for a plasma television, I should not settle for anything less than complete satisfaction or return the unit and Samsung should not get away with not fixing this problem or even acknowledging it. If somebody thinks so highly of their technology to purchase it they should get their money worth.
P.S Is anybody having trouble with Samsung Apps in Smart Hub. My home network is up and running fine. When I try to connect to Samsung Apps I get this error message. Network Interference Occurred. Please try again later. (Error_Code_010) anybody know what's causing this?
post #1240 of 4279
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Originally Posted by airman23 View Post

Just got my 60E7000 yesterday, got it out of the box, installed the stand, set it up and plugged it in to my APC power conditioner, connected the HDMI cable from my SAT receiver, turned it on and BUZZ, BUZZ, BUZZ. I'm just sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out why Samsung let's this happen. The last 3 generations of Samsung plasma's the C, D, and now the E model plasma's have had buzzing problems that they seem to do nothing to fix.

I did my homework before I brought this plasma, I knew about the "Samsung Buzz" I read this forum and the other threads regarding Samsung plasma's and this issue. I went to Best Buy and other store's to try to find out what this buzzing was but I did not hear it in any of the store displays that I watched and listened to. I thought that by now they must be aware of the problem and done something about it but apparently not. I don't get it, doesn't anybody at Samsung have ears to hear this or are they like a alcoholic in denial about their alcoholism. Is this "See no evil", Hear no evil? I took a chance that maybe I would be one of the lucky few that doesn't get a buzzer because I was that impressed with the picture quality of the E7000 over the other makes and models, but alas I am now that owner of one myself.

The picture quality of the E7000 is outstanding but the buzzing ruins everything, where it not for that the E7000 AND E8000 would be as close to perfection as I have ever seen a display get. Now I have to decide on whether I want to go thru the weary cycle of returning E7000 after E7000 trying to get one that doesn't buzz or just give up now and get another brand, probably an LG 60PM9700 as I don't like the picture quality of the Panasonic ST50, GT50 and even the VT50 models. As you know, the buzzing is not the "normal" plasma buzz " that all plasma's make. This is a buzzing at least 3x that and it does not sound normal, I'm sitting at least 8 to 10 feet away from the television and I can hear it distinctly, even above the whine of my dorm room size refrigerator's compressor sitting right next to it. I even have Tinnitus "ringing in the ears" and I can hear this buzz unmistakeably. I'll call Samsung Customer Support Tomorrow and see what they have to say. I'll probably get some clueless non-entity who knows nothing about electronics who will probably give me their pre-programed responses that they read from a card in front of them, that the buzzing I'm hearing is "normal" and that all plasma's make this sound etc. etc. But I'm not going to go for it and will demand answers and action. Maybe I'll tell them of my Sony KDS-60A3000 saga, where Sony deliberately sold defective SXRD RPTV's and had a class action law suit filed against them and had to settle the suit and that cost Sony a lot of money. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1254481
Please tell what you did with your Samsung E7000/8000 Buzzing problem.

Buy a Panasonic?? QC on Samsung is a crapshoot IMHO after having a 8 series for two years and the panel dying I no longer have much trust with them. And my panny you can only hear a buzz if you sit behind it lol.
post #1241 of 4279
After having used my new 51E8000 for a few days, I'm absolutely blown away by the clarity of the picture. The blacks appear to be getting darker, achieving that really inky look to them when the room isn't too bright. The real standout is the lack of DSE (Dirty Screen Effect), which I'm sure people who have owned a Kuro will appreciate. Every plasma I have owned which includes Panasonics have had some degree of DSE. I game a lot, so I notice is in sky panning shots in a game like Red Dead Redemption. If there is any on this set, I can't find it. It's stunning!

I know the CNET review said the television didn't hit the brightness output they would have liked, but using the recommended settings on their site has my tv lit up like Vegas, lol. This television appears much brighter than my C8000, without being blown out. The 3D on this set is also excellent. Crosstalk really annoys me, and even though the C8000 was pretty good with it, I still opted not to use the feature at all because it took away more than it added. From the content I've watched on this set, there is no crosstalk at all. My wife and I were watching some 3D trailers on VUDU, and they looked gorgeous with the 3D effect really hitting home, with no crosstalk.

The ONLY downside left with this set is the buzzing, which is a shame. It was a very loud directional buzz which I could hear from my 8+ feet away seating position. However, I have a platform the television sits on, which houses the center channel speaker. It raises the tv about a foot higher than if it were just on the entertainment center top. Raising it that 1 foot has eliminated the buzzing. Yes, if I stand up and move to certain positions it comes back with a vengeance, but in normal viewing conditions, it's gone.

So at this point, I'm really happy with the set, and it has the most beautiful picture I've ever seen on a television. Before, there always seemed to be something lacking from one brand that another had...such as Panasonic having better blacks, but Samsung's having more accurate color. This television now has great black levels, incredible color....and above all, clarity!
post #1242 of 4279
I am considering a purchase of E8000 60". i contacted Samsung technical support and they said new firmware released on the 13th corrects this buzzing noise. Could anyone confirm this. Thanks
post #1243 of 4279
Enough with the buzzing nonsense...go get a Panny if you're so worried about a "buzzing"...EVERY plasma has a hum to it...people have wasted about 50 posts on here dedicated to silly buzzing alone...just my 2 cents worth...gets old seeing the same post over & over...my 60E8000 is perfect with no noise whatsoever, so obviously not a know issue unless others don't share the same super power hearing the rest of y'all have...give it a rest already...try answering posts and helping people instead of complaining...
post #1244 of 4279
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Originally Posted by swurver View Post

Enough with the buzzing nonsense...go get a Panny if you're so worried about a "buzzing"...EVERY plasma has a hum to it...people have wasted about 50 posts on here dedicated to silly buzzing alone...just my 2 cents worth...gets old seeing the same post over & over...my 60E8000 is perfect with no noise whatsoever, so obviously not a know issue unless others don't share the same super power hearing the rest of y'all have...give it a rest already...try answering posts and helping people instead of complaining...

This has been going on since 2008. Get used to it.
post #1245 of 4279
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Originally Posted by swurver View Post

Enough with the buzzing nonsense...go get a Panny if you're so worried about a "buzzing"...EVERY plasma has a hum to it...people have wasted about 50 posts on here dedicated to silly buzzing alone...just my 2 cents worth...gets old seeing the same post over & over...my 60E8000 is perfect with no noise whatsoever, so obviously not a know issue unless others don't share the same super power hearing the rest of y'all have...give it a rest already...try answering posts and helping people instead of complaining...

Every plasma does not buzz this loud, I just helped a friend of mine set up her brand new LG 60PA6500. I helped her take it out of the box, I installed the stand, I did the intiial settings setup AND I connected it to her home theater system and tweaked it the way she wanted it and it did not buzz so loud that I could hear it 10 feet away with my Tinnitus and all. I'm ecstatic with joy that you got a non-buzzer. I just wish the rest of us could be so fortunate.
post #1246 of 4279
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Originally Posted by airman23 View Post

Every plasma does not buzz this loud, I just help a friend of mine set up her brand new LG 60PA6500. I helped her take it out of the box, I installed the stand, I did the intiial settings setup AND I connected it to her home theater system and tweaked it the way she wanted it and it did not buzz so loud that I could hear it 10 feet away with my Tinnitus and all. I'm ecstatic with joy that you got a non-buzzer. I just wish the rest of us could be so fortunate.

Didn't you just get that same Goldstar as a replacement for the Sony? What happened with that?
post #1247 of 4279
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Originally Posted by swurver View Post

Enough with the buzzing nonsense...go get a Panny if you're so worried about a "buzzing"...EVERY plasma has a hum to it...people have wasted about 50 posts on here dedicated to silly buzzing alone...just my 2 cents worth...gets old seeing the same post over & over...my 60E8000 is perfect with no noise whatsoever, so obviously not a know issue unless others don't share the same super power hearing the rest of y'all have...give it a rest already...try answering posts and helping people instead of complaining...

AMEN BROTHER i have a PN60E8000 NO BUZZ either i also have a PN50C7000 NO BUZZ never had buzzing on any plasma i have owened
post #1248 of 4279
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

This has been going on since 2008. Get used to it.

You obviously don't understand....EVERY PLASMA BUZZES...


Oh, except mine and a few others....the rest all buzz apparently, Swurver sez so!
post #1249 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

Didn't you just get that same Goldstar as a replacement for the Sony? What happened with that?

LG (Lucky-Goldstar ) That's the same plasma I got from Fry's. I sold it to my friend and used the money to help pay for the Samsung PN60E7000.
post #1250 of 4279
"and get another brand, probably an LG 60PM9700 as I don't like the picture quality of the Panasonic ST50, GT50 and even the VT50 models."

The 9700 was one of my multiple returns and it was AWFUL. Just a horrible video processor, anything less than a very good HI def signal results in a blotchy and jerky picture. But it's a beautifully designed unit.

If you can't stomach a Panasonic then try another E7000 or go the LED/LCD route.

I originally had a PN59D8000 with the buzz you described and this started the ball rolling on my 5 returns with the last being my KEEPER, the PN60E7000.

My keeper also has a buzz but I would say it's within tolerable levels (unlike the D8000) for a reasonable person and it can only be heard when looking away from the screen.

I'm really smitten with Samsung's video processor. IMO the biggest advantage Samsung has over the Panasonics is picture sharpness/clarity especially with STD content.
post #1251 of 4279
Well my replacement (60E7000) will be delivered tomorrow, they are taking away my 59D7000. Hopefully I don't get a super loud buzzer. I think its all in the room really I switched out 3 D7000's before I kept the one I have now and they all sounded the same to me once i mounted it on the wall.

I hope the blacks are a little better like they say since I wasn't to impressed with the D7000's blacks vs my 2009 Samsung LN46B750 lcd that has since been moved to the bedroom.

Got my fingers crossed everything goes ok with this first one since I don't think Samsung has as good of a exchange program as amazon.
post #1252 of 4279
I just received my 51" E8000 today. I tried out the ST50 for the past 25 days but was not happy in general. The 3D was especially problematic, with what I considered very bad crosstalk on a variety of programming, and poor 3D side-by-side recognition. The E8000 seemed a better fit based on further research.

I did own the D7000 last year and traded it in last month for the ST50 - I just couldn't take the fluctuating brightness any longer. I'll be breaking in my E8000 this week with strictly 16:9 programming with no logos in Cinema mode on 50% contrast/ 50% brightness. My goal is to get around 120 hours on it before I put in CNET's settings and go from there. The Cinemax channels work great for breaking in because there are no logos and most of what they play is 16:9 - I'll just keep an eye on it to make sure each film they play is 16:9. With all the different Cinemax channels there's always 16:9 playing on most of them. I decided against the slides because I felt this will age the panel more naturally, while reducing my chances at getting image retention early on. I'll use the slides only for checking screen uniformity.

I will note that I hear no buzzing whatsoever. None. I've sat in various parts of the room, including directly in front of it from 8 feet away, and even 4 inches in front of it, and it is dead quiet. My D7000 did not buzz either. I would notice it if it did.

Very nice remotes. I love the touch remote - I played with it a bit the other day in Best Buy. It takes some getting used to but I think I could get used to it, at least for certain uses. As a bonus, my qwerty Samsung remote from last year works with it also. The standard remote is redesigned a bit from last year - it feels nicer in the hand, and looks pretty nice too. It's backlit, but not particularly bright. The qwerty remote lights up like a Christmas tree. The standard remote does have a weird shape though - it feels great but rocks back and forth on the table with even the slightest bump. I use a remote caddy so it won't affect me.

I love, love, love the silver stand. It swivels, unlike the ST50 stand, and the screen sits a few inches higher, which is really nice - it's just the right height from my tv stand now - the ST50 sat too close to the base. The swivel is awesome - it's so handy. The stand looks much easier to clean, also - less dust. I wasn't sure how I'd like the stand's design, but now that it's sitting here, I wouldn't want to go back to the other type.

The little red LED light on the front of the tv acts as a standby indicator - it turns off when you turn on the tv, which is great. The ST50 turned on the light when you turned on the tv, which meant the bright red LED was always on when watching the tv, just an inch from the screen.

As for the glasses - it came with 2 of the newer style glasses. They seem quite cheap compared to the ones I have from last year's set. Luckily they are interchangeable. The new ones seem to fit well enough, but they're just weird - built very cheaply and do nothing to block the ambient light in the room. I'll still give them a try once the tv is broken in. So far all I did is put them on for fit.

Haven't played with the menus too much - just a few minutes in BB the other day. The menus seem slick and snappy.

That's all I can think of at the moment. I have a good felling about this set. Can't wait for break-in to finish.
post #1253 of 4279
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

"and get another brand, probably an LG 60PM9700 as I don't like the picture quality of the Panasonic ST50, GT50 and even the VT50 models."

The 9700 was one of my multiple returns and it was AWFUL. Just a horrible video processor, anything less than a very good HI def signal results in a blotchy and jerky picture. But it's a beautifully designed unit.

If you can't stomach a Panasonic then try another E7000 or go the LED/LCD route.

I originally had a PN59D8000 with the buzz you described and this started the ball rolling on my 5 returns with the last being my KEEPER, the PN60E7000.

My keeper also has a buzz but I would say it's within tolerable levels (unlike the D8000) for a reasonable person and it can only be heard when looking away from the screen.

I'm really smitten with Samsung's video processor. IMO the biggest advantage Samsung has over the Panasonics is picture sharpness/clarity especially with STD content.

Couldn't agree with you more. I went back to Fry's Electronics this morning to have another hard look at the LG 60PM9700 and I didn't like what I saw. I never really bothered taking a real close look at it until I started hearing the E7000 buzz. The 9700 presents shadows and ghosting on the images, when looking the people's faces on the screen, there appears to be shadowing and artifacts that I can discern. It presents a unnatural looking display IMHO, its nowhere near the clarity and color accuracy of the E7000. Tried playing with the video settings but got no improvement.

I've decided to work with the E7000 and try to get Samsung to get me an E7000 that doesn't buzz, I called their customer service and they will send a technician out to tell me what I already know but that's the process. I really don't want another plasma television as the E7000 looks that good and the only other television that beats it is the Sharp Elite Pro LED but that cost 5k for the 60" model, not a possibility for me. I know that LED will probably replace plasma eventually as soon as the technology gets the black levels in LED to plasma level at a reasonable price but for now plasma still rules as the technology with the best affordable picture quality.

By the way, you said that you had to return your Samsung 5 times. Did you go through the place you brought it at or did you make Samsung replace the units?
post #1254 of 4279
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

You obviously don't understand....EVERY PLASMA BUZZES...

The good thing is 99% of the time it can not be heard.
post #1255 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

The good thing is 99% of the time it can not be heard.

how do i get my PN60E8000 to buzz i feel left out
post #1256 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

The good thing is 99% of the time it can not be heard.

Nice to hear someone who probably has more experience than most here put the figure at 99%...but for that 1% do you think it is more about sensitivity of particular people or simply audible to all?
post #1257 of 4279
"The good thing is 99% of the time it can not be heard."

This is an unsubstantiated proclamation

"QC on Samsung is a crapshoot IMHO after having a 8 series for two years and the panel dying I no longer have much trust with them."

Based upon your criteria then every single brand is a crapshoot in terms of QC since they ALL have made televisions that have died within 2 years
post #1258 of 4279
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

"The good thing is 99% of the time it can not be heard."

This is an unsubstantiated proclamation

"QC on Samsung is a crapshoot IMHO after having a 8 series for two years and the panel dying I no longer have much trust with them."

Based upon your criteria then every single brand is a crapshoot in terms of QC since they ALL have made televisions that have died within 2 years

do you have a e8000 or e7000 that's what this thread is about if its such a crap shoot and you hate sammy so much go get a panny or lg and report back in a couple years

i have had a b c d and now an pn60e8000 no buzz i have a pn50c7000 no buzz and i have un46d8000 and i love them all
post #1259 of 4279
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

"The good thing is 99% of the time it can not be heard."

This is an unsubstantiated proclamation

"QC on Samsung is a crapshoot IMHO after having a 8 series for two years and the panel dying I no longer have much trust with them."

Based upon your criteria then every single brand is a crapshoot in terms of QC since they ALL have made televisions that have died within 2 years

women are from Venus men are from mars
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Originally Posted by kinkade View Post

I am considering a purchase of E8000 60". i contacted Samsung technical support and they said new firmware released on the 13th corrects this buzzing noise. Could anyone confirm this. Thanks

I have a brand new 64" E7000.

It has the directional buzz problem. At 12' on center it's fairly noticeable.

Just installed the firmware update.
There was no change to the buzzing sound.

This TV replaced a D7000 that had no buzzing sound, but a myriad of other
problems.
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