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post #1441 of 4151
Hey eagle, have you tried reducing the volume setting on the FiOS box (assuming it can be reduced when not set to "fixed")? Crackling could be an indication of the amplification within the TV being overloaded, in which case a lower level input may do the trick.

Of course, I would strongly recommend anyone using these horrible TV speakers look for somthing external. These speakers are complete garbage.
post #1442 of 4151
Eagle_2, do you happen to have the plastic still on the bezel, because last year when I bought an ST30 I first thought the speaker was crackling only to find it was caused by the plastic wrap on the bezel being loose and vibrating from the air pressure from the speaker. I just thought I would mention it just in case that might be your issue.
post #1443 of 4151
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Can you imagine buying a set of 4 of those for a family @ $60-$80 each. Yikes. Thankfully Samsung is much more sane with their pricing for glasses.

before Samsung went to Bluetooth their glasses were at least that much

As I recall I paid $75.00 a pair a couple of years ago when I bought the C series plasma...and that was a bargain at the time

on another note...what's the point of break-in?

The manufacturers continually state its not necessary

I have never done it on any of the plasmas I have owned


Warren
post #1444 of 4151
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Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

Hey eagle, have you tried reducing the volume setting on the FiOS box (assuming it can be reduced when not set to "fixed")? Crackling could be an indication of the amplification within the TV being overloaded, in which case a lower level input may do the trick.

Of course, I would strongly recommend anyone using these horrible TV speakers look for somthing external. These speakers are complete garbage.

Well, if I change the setting in the FIOS box from "fixed" to "variable" then I can lower the volume from there. But the thing is, the volume is already lower than with the ST50 and the D7000, so the last thing I want to do is lower the volume any more. I was wondering myself if the cable box was over-amplifying it, but then again, I watched Speed tonight on Cinemax with FIOS set to "fixed" and the tv set to "amplify", and though I still had to turn the tv up louder than we're used to with the D7000, there wasn't a hint of crackle or pop, not once with all the shots, explosions, loud music, crashes, etc. - so I can't figure out why sometimes the speakers pop and sometimes they don't. Could it be certain frequencies above or below what the speakers can handle?

Of course a receiver is ideal, and we have a very nice one, but living in an apartment building, we're forced to use the tv speakers in the evenings and at night otherwise the neighbors will complain (which happened once last year).
post #1445 of 4151
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Originally Posted by qsilvertwo View Post

Eagle_2, do you happen to have the plastic still on the bezel, because last year when I bought an ST30 I first thought the speaker was crackling only to find it was caused by the plastic wrap on the bezel being loose and vibrating from the air pressure from the speaker. I just thought I would mention it just in case that might be your issue.

Thanks for the recommendation but nope, no plastic - I removed it the day it got delivered.
post #1446 of 4151
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

before Samsung went to Bluetooth their glasses were at least that much

As I recall I paid $75.00 a pair a couple of years ago when I bought the C series plasma...and that was a bargain at the time

on another note...what's the point of break-in?

The manufacturers continually state its not necessary

I have never done it on any of the plasmas I have owned


Warren

Well I'm by no means an authority on this, I'm still learning here, but from what I gather from reading in these forums, and on sites with information on plasmas and image retention, the tv is especially susceptible to image retention during its initial couple hundred hours of use. During that time, you should go easy on the set regarding content - no letterboxing / pillarboxing, no logos, no tickers or scores, nothing with a static image. Watching content that fits that description in its first couple hundred/few hundred hours will increase your chances of getting image retention. It also seems to be recommended to keep the brightness and contrast turned down lower during that time period also. There's talk of this over on the Master Burn-In/IR/Break In Thread Part II.

Since my girlfriend likes network tv, having a few favorite shows with logos, and both of us tending to watch a fair amount of 4:3 content (old tv shows on DVD/blu-ray), not to mention many blu-rays in 2:35:1 aspect ratio, it sounds like it would behoove us to put the first couple hundred hours in right away using Cinemax 16:9/no logos - that way once the hours are put in, hopefully we won't have to worry quite so much when there's a logo on the screen or we want to watch 3 episodes of Twilight Zone in a row.

I'm sure different people will have different opinions on if this is necessary, but it makes sense to me that if we need to be extra careful during its first couple hundred hours, I'd rather just do it in the first 10-12 days and then I won't freak out when I watch something with letterboxing, rather than having to be extra careful with what we watch for the first several months.

So...no, it may not be necessary. But if it contributes to the tv being less prone to image retention, it's well worth it for me. For all I know, it may be a bunch of boloney. I'm just trying to take advice from some of what I have read regarding the issue.
post #1447 of 4151
I'm sure the theory is sound (ie: aging the panel uniformly during the initial period where the phosphors burn hotter is probably a good idea) but I don't think you need to freak out over it. The only thing I did was limit myself to 16:9 unletterboxed content for the first 150 hours or so -- but networks these days (at least where I am) are pretty good about not using static logos, not keeping them up all the time, and moving them around a little.

I haven't noticed even a hint of image retention on my E8000, even after watching movies that are 2-3 hours long. I'm taking it easy on the set, but I'm not babying it too much -- its there to serve my needs, after all, not the other way around.
post #1448 of 4151
Eagle_2, is it possible for you to disconnect every thing and watch an OTA program to see if you still have the same problems (audio & video)?

Do you ever have these problems while using a blu-ray player?
post #1449 of 4151
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Originally Posted by deria View Post

I'm sure the theory is sound (ie: aging the panel uniformly during the initial period where the phosphors burn hotter is probably a good idea) but I don't think you need to freak out over it. The only thing I did was limit myself to 16:9 unletterboxed content for the first 150 hours or so -- but networks these days (at least where I am) are pretty good about not using static logos, not keeping them up all the time, and moving them around a little.

I haven't noticed even a hint of image retention on my E8000, even after watching movies that are 2-3 hours long. I'm taking it easy on the set, but I'm not babying it too much -- its there to serve my needs, after all, not the other way around.

i have a PN50C7000 and directv i notice that if my directv box resets and you have that directv logo staying there while the box resets oh my goodness i get IR very quickly but my PN60E8000 i get no IR please help me understand what is the difference between them that my E8000 is so much better
post #1450 of 4151
I just started messing with the Smart Hub last night and something weird is happening with mine. The TV connects to the internet fine and will download updates and everything but none of my apps will launch everytime I try it says Error_Update_001?

I tried searching online but nobody has posted about this error yet. I even tried the google fix by replacing the IP address with 8.8.8.8 but it didn't change anything for me.

Anybody know how to fix it?
post #1451 of 4151
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Originally Posted by Jruc03 View Post

I just started messing with the Smart Hub last night and something weird is happening with mine. The TV connects to the internet fine and will download updates and everything but none of my apps will launch everytime I try it says Error_Update_001?

I tried searching online but nobody has posted about this error yet. I even tried the google fix by replacing the IP address with 8.8.8.8 but it didn't change anything for me.

Anybody know how to fix it?

are you connecting wired or wireless check and make sure that your TV has a good connection to the internet you can check that in the menu go to network and check status if that fine try.
sometimes a fix can be as simple as unplugging the TV from you power source wait 30 seconds then plug it back in see if that helps
post #1452 of 4151
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Originally Posted by bargervais View Post

are you connecting wired or wireless check and make sure that your TV has a good connection to the internet you can check that in the menu go to network and check status if that fine try.
sometimes a fix can be as simple as unplugging the TV from you power source wait 30 seconds then plug it back in see if that helps

The problem is NOT your internet connection,I also experienced this issue on my pn64E8000 when I first got it,and ALSO on my Samsung BD-E6500 blu ray,what you need to do is be sure you have the latelst firmware,samsung just released another update on May 24th but only works if you download it to a USB and update that way.Then,you need to go into the smart hub,then go into the tools menu and RESET the smart hub.Im not sure if alot more other people experience this,but I know of myself and a few others experienced the same issue,and resetting smart hub seemed to fix it for a bit,then it acts up again.
post #1453 of 4151
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Eagle_2, is it possible for you to disconnect every thing and watch an OTA program to see if you still have the same problems (audio & video)?

Do you ever have these problems while using a blu-ray player?

Well I haven't yet tried OTA but I have a small antenna that will bring in a few stations. I figure 2 or 3 more days of break-in with Cinemax and I'll have plenty of hours on the panel and I'll feel comfortable trying some things out. At that point, I'll try some OTA, blu-ray, and media player files and see what happens. I'm planning on picking up a replacement cable box maybe today also.
post #1454 of 4151
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Originally Posted by bargervais View Post

are you connecting wired or wireless check and make sure that your TV has a good connection to the internet you can check that in the menu go to network and check status if that fine try.
sometimes a fix can be as simple as unplugging the TV from you power source wait 30 seconds then plug it back in see if that helps

Wireless but my connection is good and there is no problem there.

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Originally Posted by jroptop View Post

The problem is NOT your internet connection,I also experienced this issue on my pn64E8000 when I first got it,and ALSO on my Samsung BD-E6500 blu ray,what you need to do is be sure you have the latelst firmware,samsung just released another update on May 24th but only works if you download it to a USB and update that way.Then,you need to go into the smart hub,then go into the tools menu and RESET the smart hub.Im not sure if alot more other people experience this,but I know of myself and a few others experienced the same issue,and resetting smart hub seemed to fix it for a bit,then it acts up again.

I didn't think it could be my internet, i'll have to look it up online and download the usb method then reset the smart hub. I will give it a try and see it works thanks.
post #1455 of 4151
Well exchanged 60gt50 for 60E7000 and could not be more pleased. The GT50 was blurry, the Samsung is so much sharper. It is like night and day!
post #1456 of 4151
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Originally Posted by mikesz_28 View Post

Well exchanged 60gt50 for 60E7000 and could not be more pleased. The GT50 was blurry, the Samsung is so much sharper. It is like night and day!

Do you think this is due to the non-defeatable edge enhancement Panasonic is doing?
post #1457 of 4151
Not sure but the GT50 had a worse picture than my 58C550 in the living room. satellite on the E7000 looks almost as good as bluray on the gt50.
post #1458 of 4151
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Originally Posted by mikesz_28 View Post

Not sure but the GT50 had a worse picture than my 58C550 in the living room. satellite on the E7000 looks almost as good as bluray on the gt50.

Sharpness was set to 0 on the GT50?
post #1459 of 4151
Nope set to 100!!!!!
post #1460 of 4151
Well I got a brand new FIOS DVR box tonight. It's actually a different newer model with more capacity than the one I had - it still had the plastic wrap on it. Nicer unit - better styling and nice display too.

So we've been watching various Cinemax channels tonight, and so far, we've both come to the conclusion that based on the sampling of Cinemax channels vs the other box, the volume seems to be noticeable louder now. Strange because the first thing I did was set the audio output to "surround" and "fixed volume" with no dynamic compression, just like the other box. We don't have to turn the volume up to 80-90 now to hear Cinemax - 60 seems to be okay on average, with the air conditioner on, and that's with tv sound set to "standard", not amplify. Weird. The FIOS box still goes up to 30 for volume and it stays on 30 when set to fixed, just like the old one did. Not sure why there's a difference in volume. My girlfriend says it does seem to sound louder than the other box.

I still noticed a bit of crackling when watching something this evening. I've got the DVR set to record Lost World tomorrow morning because I know that film had alot of crackling so I can try that tomorrow and see how it sounds with the new box.

I'll keep an eye on the freezing and see if that happens with the new box. One thing that I noticed is I mentioned that when I adjust the tv volume or use the tv menus while watching Cinemax, the sound that the tv produces on default medium volume (the beeps when changing volume) is much louder than the films are on Cinemax. Much louder. When you hear the beeps you think you need to turn down the sound because it's too loud, except the film itself is just right, not as loud as the tv beeps. So that seems to me like the tv is indeed capable of getting quite a bit louder than it seems while watching Cinemax. It seems the tv is capable of getting very loud, but Cinemax just shows their films at a softer volume. Which is fine, but again that makes me wonder then why the tv crackles with Cinemax films if the movies aren't even as loud as the tv beeps.
post #1461 of 4151
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Originally Posted by mikesz_28 View Post

Not sure but the GT50 had a worse picture than my 58C550 in the living room. satellite on the E7000 looks almost as good as bluray on the gt50.

Coming from an e8000 I'm feeling you 100% on this. I feel like to have an amazing picture you have to use blu-ray. The samsung made EVERYTHING look amazing. HD programming on the GT50 is just nothing special...especially the more motion there is, the worse the image degrades.
post #1462 of 4151
I can't see 3D to well but 2D-3D conversion looks really good. I'm downloading a couple 3D ps3 demos.
post #1463 of 4151
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Originally Posted by hov333 View Post

Coming from an e8000 I'm feeling you 100% on this. I feel like to have an amazing picture you have to use blu-ray. The samsung made EVERYTHING look amazing. HD programming on the GT50 is just nothing special...especially the more motion there is, the worse the image degrades.

I have a E7000 coming in tomorrow or Thursday to potentially replace my ST50. I too am very underwhelmed at the ST50s HD for DTV. Blu Ray looks amazing on the ST50 but almost everything I have watched over DTV is somewhat blurry or has noise or motion artifacts. I just don't get it. I have tried every setting there is to get DTV quality to where I expect it to be. After substantial time with the ST50 I think my old ST30 handled normal TV viewing much better. I am hoping the E7000 give me the best of both worlds. Fingers crossed.
post #1464 of 4151
I think you will be pleased with the E7000, I am blown away by mine. It looks so good at 4 feet I'm thinking I should have got the 64"
post #1465 of 4151
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Originally Posted by BiotypE View Post

I have a E7000 coming in tomorrow or Thursday to potentially replace my ST50. I too am very underwhelmed at the ST50s HD for DTV. Blu Ray looks amazing on the ST50 but almost everything I have watched over DTV is somewhat blurry or has noise or motion artifacts. I just don't get it. I have tried every setting there is to get DTV quality to where I expect it to be. After substantial time with the ST50 I think my old ST30 handled normal TV viewing much better. I am hoping the E7000 give me the best of both worlds. Fingers crossed.

That's what I am in search of, a TV that displays great quality HDTV content (in my case via Directv) since that's mostly what I watch. I want a TV where not only do blu-rays look good but also shows like King of Queens or Everybody Loves Raymond. Is that possible in a 65" tv? Those kind of shows look fine on my 50S1 but now I want to upgrade the screen size.
post #1466 of 4151
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Originally Posted by mikesz_28 View Post

Nope set to 100!!!!!

Why? On the Samsung you'll probably be happier at zero or close to it...
post #1467 of 4151
Default on the E7000 right now. 100 was on gt50 while trying to get a sharper picture.
post #1468 of 4151
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Originally Posted by mikesz_28 View Post

Default on the E7000 right now. 100 was on gt50 while trying to get a sharper picture.

So, what's default? So no setting on the GT50 satisfied you? Maybe what you seek is not necessarily controlled by the sharpness adjustment...
post #1469 of 4151
Default movie mode sharpness is 20, I tried everything I could read about or think about and nothing helped on the gt50. The E7000 is the best tv I have ever seen. It looks so damn good. HD, bluray, ps3, regular DVD it just handles it all.
post #1470 of 4151
Swapping out a PN64E550 for a PN60E7000. Gets delivered Saturday. Hoping I am happy with the upgrade!
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