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post #1861 of 4151
6/14/12 at 4:12pm
How did you guys install them if you dont mind me asking?Ill be installing these on my 64",did you install them vertically or horizontally of all four edges,or two edges?Thanks in advance!
Also,are they 110 ac outlet,how do you operate them to only have them come on at nite time watching?
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post #1862 of 4151
6/14/12 at 4:34pm
Since there are 63 pages to this tread (and I don't wanna look through them all) I was hoping someone could link to me where the best pictures settings are listed for the e8000 model. Best settings without entering the service menu that is. someone help me out please.
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post #1863 of 4151
6/14/12 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by lotusvibe View Post

Since there are 63 pages to this tread (and I don't wanna look through them all) I was hoping someone could link to me where the best pictures settings are listed for the e8000 model. Best settings without entering the service menu that is. someone help me out please.

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-561058/samsung-pn60e8000-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing

To summarize the 63 pages.
Post: My plasma buzzes. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I see flashes. Reply: I do not.
Post: My TV turns off during fades to black. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I have DSE. Reply: Mine is crystal clear.
Post: Panny is Gods gift to man. Reply: I returned my crap Panny for a Sammy.

I think the incrementing page count will reduce exponentially by the weekend. Hopefully it will, but you never know biggrin.gif
Edited by ferl - 6/14/12 at 6:01pm
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post #1864 of 4151
6/14/12 at 6:18pm
Bravo Ferl!
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post #1865 of 4151
6/14/12 at 6:26pm
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-561058/samsung-pn60e8000-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing
To summarize the 63 pages.
Post: My plasma buzzes. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I see flashes. Reply: I do not.
Post: My TV turns off during fades to black. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I have DSE. Reply: Mine is crystal clear.
Post: Panny is Gods gift to man. Reply: I returned my crap Panny for a Sammy.
I think the incrementing page count will reduce exponentially by the weekend. Hopefully it will, but you never know biggrin.gif

^^^ Just awsome Feri smile.gif

Anyway, shouldn't one of you Guinness's start a "E7000/8000 Settings/Calibration" Thread as we have had for 'C' and 'D' series???
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post #1866 of 4151
6/14/12 at 6:31pm
It really is astounding that there are no postings of user calibrations obtained with instrumentation. By this time last year, we had over 400 pages devoted to calibration of the D8000/D7000 models. We had at least five different full calibration data posted -- not including Cnet's. Doesn't any owner of an E8000/E7000 here own a meter? Some of us really would like to see how well these units perform. frown.gif

Larry
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post #1867 of 4151
6/14/12 at 6:40pm
I think you meant 400 posts.wink.gif I agree, where is the E8000/7000 settings thread with user calibrations?
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post #1868 of 4151
6/14/12 at 6:42pm
Hi, zoyd. Posts not pages indeed.

Larry
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post #1869 of 4151
6/14/12 at 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by jroptop View Post

How did you guys install them if you dont mind me asking?Ill be installing these on my 64",did you install them vertically or horizontally of all four edges,or two edges?Thanks in advance!
Also,are they 110 ac outlet,how do you operate them to only have them come on at nite time watching?

I installed the ones on the left and right vertically , and the ones on top and bottom horizontally. I placed the switches near the bottom, back left side of the TV so I could reach them very easily to turn them on/off manually. Not sure about the 110 ac?
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post #1870 of 4151
6/15/12 at 4:17am
Thank you for the response,so you installed four strips all together,white led I imagine? Just an FYI,Ive done led conversion to my car and often used this company who has great products,thought Id post it and see what you guys think.They actually have a remote control to operate the led strips where ever the application is,the website is www.oznium.com. I will have to see what they have and give it a try,thanks again!
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post #1871 of 4151
6/15/12 at 6:08am
The Samsung rep was in my store yesterday and I mentioned that I was disappointed that HBOGo was not available. He told me that he thought it was already out for the E's. I told him that I didn't think it was, but I'd check. He said that if it wasn't yet, it should be soon. I did check this morning and it isn't available yet, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that his information was correct about the soon part.
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post #1872 of 4151
6/15/12 at 7:40am
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Sounds like what I just noticed for the first time last night. Lots and lots of streaks that are visible during light backgrounds especially when panning. I thought I've been lucky not having any DSE but I guess I'm not that lucky after all.
I'm so close to getting an LCD it's not even funny. I can't believe I 'm gong to have to break in another E8000 now - I had it broken in with over 200 hours of 16:9 Cinemax so that I could use the set as I want after that without worrying so much about image retention and black bars. I can't believe I have to do it all again. I'm asking myself if plasma is really worth it. Every time I look at an LCD in the store I answer myself, "yes it's worth it", but these plasmas are far from ideal, with DSE, lines, image retention, and brightness instability/ABL issues. Then again I've read LCD can have DSE too and they sure have their own set of issues. I've got some thinking to do.

I'm trying to get Samsung to just even exchange me again with another E7000 set but they are giving me a hard time. They want to do another panel swap which I don't want to go through (last time the company came out with the panel it was one guy and I had to do half of the work with him and don't feel comfortable lifting the panel and helping him put it into place) . I told them it just easier to re-box this one and swap them out with a new one. If they won't do that then I might be forced to do a panel swap. I don't know if I'll ever get a hold of one without the DSE even if they do a panel swap its still a crapshoot.
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post #1873 of 4151
6/15/12 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by dlmax63 View Post

The Samsung rep was in my store yesterday and I mentioned that I was disappointed that HBOGo was not available. He told me that he thought it was already out for the E's. I told him that I didn't think it was, but I'd check. He said that if it wasn't yet, it should be soon. I did check this morning and it isn't available yet, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that his information was correct about the soon part.

thats not good that a rep from samsung didn't know that HBO GO is missing on the E8000
i want my HBO GO
it's on my UN46D8000 and My PN50C7000
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post #1874 of 4151
6/15/12 at 10:31am
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-561058/samsung-pn60e8000-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing
To summarize the 63 pages.
Post: My plasma buzzes. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I see flashes. Reply: I do not.
Post: My TV turns off during fades to black. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I have DSE. Reply: Mine is crystal clear.
Post: Panny is Gods gift to man. Reply: I returned my crap Panny for a Sammy.
I think the incrementing page count will reduce exponentially by the weekend. Hopefully it will, but you never know biggrin.gif

Sooo, this should be posted on page one to save a lot of time/reading!

I'm returning a 64D7000 for an E7000 because no matter what, we can't get rid of the Flash and Turn Off problem with the D. Price difference is $200 to me. Am I wasting my time and money? Is the E just as likely to be defective as the D? Guys on the D thread seem to think the problems were solved on the E. Looks like it's not so. I love these TVs if they would only work correctly. The down side of modern technology, I guess. Still would like opinions on if I'm really going the right direction by going to an E for $200 as opposed to another D, for free.

Thanks!
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post #1875 of 4151
6/15/12 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by jroptop View Post

Thank you for the response,so you installed four strips all together,white led I imagine? Just an FYI,Ive done led conversion to my car and often used this company who has great products,thought Id post it and see what you guys think.They actually have a remote control to operate the led strips where ever the application is,the website is www.oznium.com. I will have to see what they have and give it a try,thanks again!

Yes they are white leds.
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post #1876 of 4151
6/15/12 at 12:01pm
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-561058/samsung-pn60e8000-picture-settings/?tag=contentBody;threadListing
To summarize the 63 pages.
Post: My plasma buzzes. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I see flashes. Reply: I do not.
Post: My TV turns off during fades to black. Reply: Mine does not.
Post: I have DSE. Reply: Mine is crystal clear.
Post: Panny is Gods gift to man. Reply: I returned my crap Panny for a Sammy.
I think the incrementing page count will reduce exponentially by the weekend. Hopefully it will, but you never know biggrin.gif

That's awesome.

Buzzing? none,
Flashes? absolutely but tolerable. ABL.
Screen-off on fade to black? yep,
DSE? horrible.
Returned. No replacement.

But they opened another for me at the store. Same issues. It had DSE (not as bad) and ABL issues.

I wanted to like this TV and give it a go but the one I had and others I saw are not ready for prime time.

Sounds like some of you got some good ones. The flaws are just not for me at this time.

Great thread though, I learned a lot in the process, so thanks to all.

Hopefully these intermittent issues will get fixed and I can revisit getting a plasma again in the near future.

Good luck to everyone.
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post #1877 of 4151
6/15/12 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by Jruc03 View Post

I'm trying to get Samsung to just even exchange me again with another E7000 set but they are giving me a hard time. They want to do another panel swap which I don't want to go through (last time the company came out with the panel it was one guy and I had to do half of the work with him and don't feel comfortable lifting the panel and helping him put it into place) . I told them it just easier to re-box this one and swap them out with a new one. If they won't do that then I might be forced to do a panel swap. I don't know if I'll ever get a hold of one without the DSE even if they do a panel swap its still a crapshoot.

Just a follow up they are letting me exchange it again for another E7000 but i'm not going to get my hopes up on getting one without DSE. I know they exist problem is you can't open up all the boxes at the store until you find one that doesn't have it biggrin.gif
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post #1878 of 4151
6/15/12 at 7:32pm
Should a plasma be judged on pq without calibration?
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post #1879 of 4151
6/15/12 at 7:42pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Should a plasma be judged on pq without calibration?

Yes.
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post #1880 of 4151
6/15/12 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by dmercer3 View Post

Yes.

Any particular reason?
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post #1881 of 4151
6/15/12 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Should a plasma be judged on pq without calibration?

not
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post #1882 of 4151
6/15/12 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Any particular reason?

These are not plasma TV's solely marketed to CNET and 'Cleveland Plasma' (for example). You are speaking of a technology that has been marketed to the public at large for decades now. Let me ask you a question, what percentage of the marketed public has the expertise (or even the monetary funds) to afford or conduct a proper calibration?

You can argue that people can buy a calibration disc for 20$, and calibrate their tv, however, again the same question. How many of those people do you actually think have the know how, the ability, and the acumen to actually get a decent calibration from a simple "one size fits all" calibration?

These tv's have to be judged off the shelf, out of the box, and however else the MAJORITY of the consumers are utilizing them.

By all means, judge them post calibration, but don't act like it makes a difference at the end of the day.

-Respectfully.
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post #1883 of 4151
6/15/12 at 8:57pm
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Originally Posted by dmercer3 View Post

These are not plasma TV's solely marketed to CNET and 'Cleveland Plasma' (for example). You are speaking of a technology that has been marketed to the public at large for decades now. Let me ask you a question, what percentage of the marketed public has the expertise (or even the monetary funds) to afford or conduct a proper calibration?
You can argue that people can buy a calibration disc for 20$, and calibrate their tv, however, again the same question. How many of those people do you actually think have the know how, the ability, and the acumen to actually get a decent calibration from a simple "one size fits all" calibration?
These tv's have to be judged off the shelf, out of the box, and however else the MAJORITY of the consumers are utilizing them.
By all means, judge them post calibration, but don't act like it makes a difference at the end of the day.
-Respectfully.

These tv's judged off the shelf, out of the box i think are very good. My PN60E8000 in movie mode with everything in default mode and everything off cell light at 18 contrast 93 brightness 48 sharpness 0 color at 50 color spacing native color tone warm1. I think it looks excellent out of the box precalibration

this tv is amazing no buzz no pops and the blacks are inky
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post #1884 of 4151
6/15/12 at 8:59pm
I don't expect any positive response to my question given that some of you don't even think that it is worth calibrating a TV. rolleyes.gif

But, anyway, here goes.... Has anyone successfully used the ruSamsung TV Communicator factory remote emulator with the E series?

Larry
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post #1885 of 4151
6/15/12 at 9:01pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Should a plasma be judged on pq without calibration?
Sure, why not? Any tv should be judged in whatever mode you plan to watch it in. If u never plan on calibrating your tvs, reviews mean absolutely nothing. Some reviews do include comments and reports on pre-calibration modes (often times movie mode) and thats about the best noncalibration review you can get to, but expect it to be full of negative comments as it's being compared to calibrated expectations. Use your eye and determine which you like best. However, if you do plan on getting it calibrated, i wouldnt judge in noncalibrated modes and in that case, reviews are your best friend if you cant find a place that has the set(s) your looking for in a calibrated state.
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post #1886 of 4151
6/15/12 at 10:12pm
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Originally Posted by maygit View Post

Sure, why not? Any tv should be judged in whatever mode you plan to watch it in. If u never plan on calibrating your tvs, reviews mean absolutely nothing. Some reviews do include comments and reports on pre-calibration modes (often times movie mode) and thats about the best noncalibration review you can get to, but expect it to be full of negative comments as it's being compared to calibrated expectations. Use your eye and determine which you like best. However, if you do plan on getting it calibrated, i wouldnt judge in noncalibrated modes and in that case, reviews are your best friend if you cant find a place that has the set(s) your looking for in a calibrated state.

Well.... out of the box mode in the store is one thing, as that is usually display mode which is unrealistic except if you plan to watch your set in as crappy environment as your usual tv store display environment and are looking to sell your pq to rubes.....so out of the box judgments there are pretty much meaningless...IMHO. Let alone having sales people help...they're generally useless entirely.
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post #1887 of 4151
6/16/12 at 3:02am
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Well.... out of the box mode in the store is one thing, as that is usually display mode which is unrealistic except if you plan to watch your set in as crappy environment as your usual tv store display environment and are looking to sell your pq to rubes.....so out of the box judgments there are pretty much meaningless...IMHO. Let alone having sales people help...they're generally useless entirely.
I agree, but also disagree as well. You are right that a store setting is not the ideal location to judge a panel (unless you have a small store specialty retailer nearby that has the sets in proper or no lighting). However, there are still many things that can be judged. Store modes usually are in vivid/dynamic. Find/ask for the remote or use the buttons on the panel and change the mode and settings to whichever you would likely use at home, assuming its not going to be calibrated. Hey, if u like vivid (GASP!) by all means leave it that way. Reset all settings to the mode of your choice to factory defaults and then do your tweak. Although it will be impossible to judge MLL, you can still judge filters, color preferences, motion/artifacting, and many other things. Try and keep it as same tech vs same tech.
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post #1888 of 4151
6/16/12 at 3:44am
We have a confirmed fledge biggrin.gif The new laundry list has already begun.
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post #1889 of 4151
6/16/12 at 5:29am
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We have a confirmed fledge biggrin.gif The new laundry list has already begun.

Fledge? Sense it makes not.
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post #1890 of 4151
6/16/12 at 5:50am
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Has anyone successfully used the ruSamsung TV Communicator factory remote emulator with the E series?
Larry

I didn't even try the thing. The coolest device I've ever bought has to be the Harmony remote.
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