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post #2011 of 4155
7/4/12 at 9:14am
No issues here. Seems like there's more buzzing talk on the GT50 forum than here. This thread seems a little slow as a matter of fact.
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post #2012 of 4155
7/4/12 at 9:27am
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Out of curiousity, are these Samsung issues (buzzing, dead pixels, coloration issues, etc), wide spread? Or does it just seem that way?

I can say, for the buzzing, those that are sensitive to it seem to be bothered by it on a "majority" of sets. Whether that majority is closer to 51% rather than 99%, isn't clear.
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post #2013 of 4155
7/4/12 at 12:46pm
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... This thread seems a little slow as a matter of fact.

They are too busy watching a great TV smile.gif
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post #2014 of 4155
7/4/12 at 1:49pm
Yeah, the buzzing is an issue on my old Samsung, but it doesn't bother me do much now that we're in a bigger house. It's almost like the high pitched whine that old tube tvs have when on...

But what about the pixel issues? Or the color pops/ shadows?
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post #2015 of 4155
7/4/12 at 2:09pm
There are a lot of critical eyes in this forum, so you have to take these reports with a grain of salt. I don't think there is much evidence of other widespread flaws, but if something bothers you, you can take it up with Samsung. Dead pixels for example have always been covered under warranty. Uniformity problems should be as well.
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post #2016 of 4155
7/4/12 at 9:23pm
I had a technician out today to check out the DSE on my E8000 and whilst he was there I had him look at the ABL issue - he agreed it was annoying and was surprised he hasn't had any customers mention it before now. He said he will put it in his report so I'm hopeful I might hear back from him about it soon.
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post #2017 of 4155
7/5/12 at 6:36am
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They are too busy watching a great TV smile.gif

That's exactly what I was thinking.
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post #2018 of 4155
7/5/12 at 6:41am
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Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

There are a lot of critical eyes in this forum, so you have to take these reports with a grain of salt. I don't think there is much evidence of other widespread flaws, but if something bothers you, you can take it up with Samsung. Dead pixels for example have always been covered under warranty. Uniformity problems should be as well.

I agree. I have kept a diligent watch on these forums since I bought my C8000. I can say that I noticed a LOT of forum action in the C and D threads regarding these problems... at least at twice the rate that the E series forum has seen.

Only two options, either AVS lost some interest, or the E series has shown improvement.
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post #2019 of 4155
7/5/12 at 7:27am
Has anyone found a good android app that will allow you to use the keyboard on your smart phone to type in browser url or Internet searches into the TV browser?

Edit: I think my problem is my new phone, Galaxy S3, isn't supported by some apps yet. I imagine it will be soon though. I'll just have to wait.
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post #2020 of 4155
7/5/12 at 6:43pm
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Has anyone found a good android app that will allow you to use the keyboard on your smart phone to type in browser url or Internet searches into the TV browser?
Edit: I think my problem is my new phone, Galaxy S3, isn't supported by some apps yet. I imagine it will be soon though. I'll just have to wait.

The "Samsung Remote" app for android allows you to enter text. That app works on my Atrix2 running v2.3.6 and a Galaxy S2 on v4
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post #2021 of 4155
7/9/12 at 4:52am
FYI, Firmware v1023 is out. I did the update online and it returned my settings to the default.
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post #2022 of 4155
7/9/12 at 8:18am
If you have a gmail address I can send you a working version of smart view. The app is not listed as supported due to resolution. I have a gnex. The remote app is squashed on my transformer and read it would do the same on the gnex. The smart view feature of this app may not work but the remote is a replica of the current one I have on my 550. Only thing that does not work is the BT turn on. Phone and TV are synced and I know both support this feature but...well you know. Nothing is perfect.

P.s. I found the app on xda, but have been unable to find the thread. Mine is also an older version since I read the newer one stopped working for many.
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post #2023 of 4155
7/9/12 at 2:39pm
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FYI, Firmware v1023 is out. I did the update online and it returned my settings to the default.

Just updated mine, do you know what was updated?
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post #2024 of 4155
7/9/12 at 4:29pm
From the Samsung download page:
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Upgrade File(USB type) (Firmware) (ver.1023.0)

This firmware is for TV Model(s): PN**E7000 and PN**E8000.
The version is 1019.4
This firmware update will improve the following:

- Improves performance of Smart Hub

- Adds print function in photo applications such as the Photo function of AllShare Play or Picasa.

- Supports Samsung Wireless Audio Dock and Wireless Keyboard VG-KBD1500

- Resolves compatibility issue with DLNA devices and network router/switch.

- Improves picture quality.

- Enhances Voice Recognition feature.

- Change the TV Power On command from ''Hi TV'' to ''Hi TV Power On'' or ''Smart TV'' to ''Smart TV Power On.''


It is a bit confusing since it says it is both version 1023.0 and 1019.4.smile.gif

Larry
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post #2025 of 4155
7/9/12 at 7:00pm
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FYI, Firmware v1023 is out. I did the update online and it returned my settings to the default.

From what I know every update does that (return settings to default) thus you have to write down any calibration settings you've made before you start (ask me how I know).
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post #2026 of 4155
7/9/12 at 8:05pm
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From what I know every update does that (return settings to default) thus you have to write down any calibration settings you've made before you start (ask me how I know).
A tried and true method for gaining knowledge and wisdom that I used extensively. eek.gif
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post #2027 of 4155
7/9/12 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

From what I know every update does that (return settings to default) thus you have to write down any calibration settings you've made before you start (ask me how I know).

I did keep a file with the settings, but it would be nice had they not reset to default. I haven't had the E8000 that long, but I don't remember the values changing on my C8000 on a firmware update. It has been a long time since the last C series update. Perhaps my memory fails me.
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post #2028 of 4155
7/9/12 at 9:13pm
I created a Google Docs spreadsheet that holds all my settings, for each mode, and then I use a smartphone or tablet to access all the settings for re-input. (nerd alert) Made me feel like Rodney McKay on Atlantis!
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post #2029 of 4155
7/10/12 at 10:15am
Question for knowledgeable owners of 2012 Samsung plasmas (550 and up):

Is 1080p24 at 96Hz ("CinemaSmooth") now working 100% correctly? I understand the old bug (whereby the black level would rise) has been fixed.

Alarmingly, ChadB says in his review that "pans were choppy". But if 96Hz is working right, slow camera pans (from a 1080p24 source) should be smooth (like in the movie theatre). Only very fast pans should look choppy (due to natural film judder).

For some reason it's been hard for many TV makers to implement 1080p24 without frame interpolation, flicker, false contouring etc. I now have a 50" LG PK550 (2010); I picked it b/c at the time it was one of the few plasmas to get 1080p24 right (72Hz mode). I'm tempted to upgrade to a 64" Samsung this year but first want to make sure the 96Hz mode has been completely nailed down and ChadB didn't report some new defect.

Thanks in advance!











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Pans were a bit choppy ...


Thanks Chad B for the review ... if you're still in this thread, would you please elaborate on what you meant by saying pans were choppy? Did you mean the TV was introducing some kind of motion artifact or were some pans naturally not fluid (look the same way on a reference TV)?

Thanks in advance
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post #2030 of 4155
7/10/12 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

From the Samsung download page:
It is a bit confusing since it says it is both version 1023.0 and 1019.4.smile.gif
Larry

Weird I went to check for an update via the TV and it won't connect to the Samsung server it says my internet is unstable when there is nothing wrong with it. My current firmware says its 1019.4 does, I wonder if i'm up date since the update says its 1019.4 & 1023.

I'm downloading it online and I will try the usb method but I think its going to tell me i'm already up to date.
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post #2031 of 4155
7/10/12 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by Jruc03 View Post

Weird I went to check for an update via the TV and it won't connect to the Samsung server it says my internet is unstable when there is nothing wrong with it. My current firmware says its 1019.4 does, I wonder if i'm up date since the update says its 1019.4 & 1023.
I'm downloading it online and I will try the usb method but I think its going to tell me i'm already up to date.

Nevermind the usb method worked. Must have been something wrong with there online update servers or something.
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post #2032 of 4155
7/10/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by walt73 View Post

Question for knowledgeable owners of 2012 Samsung plasmas (550 and up):
Is 1080p24 at 96Hz ("CinemaSmooth") now working 100% correctly? I understand the old bug (whereby the black level would rise) has been fixed.
Alarmingly, ChadB says in his review that "pans were choppy". But if 96Hz is working right, slow camera pans (from a 1080p24 source) should be smooth (like in the movie theatre). Only very fast pans should look choppy (due to natural film judder).
For some reason it's been hard for many TV makers to implement 1080p24 without frame interpolation, flicker, false contouring etc. I now have a 50" LG PK550 (2010); I picked it b/c at the time it was one of the few plasmas to get 1080p24 right (72Hz mode). I'm tempted to upgrade to a 64" Samsung this year but first want to make sure the 96Hz mode has been completely nailed down and ChadB didn't report some new defect.
Thanks in advance!

CinemaSmooth works great on my E8000. No flicker, motion interpolation, pulldown judder, false contouring or black level rise.
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post #2033 of 4155
7/10/12 at 10:05pm
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Originally Posted by walt73 View Post

Question for knowledgeable owners of 2012 Samsung plasmas (550 and up):
Is 1080p24 at 96Hz ("CinemaSmooth") now working 100% correctly? I understand the old bug (whereby the black level would rise) has been fixed.
Alarmingly, ChadB says in his review that "pans were choppy". But if 96Hz is working right, slow camera pans (from a 1080p24 source) should be smooth (like in the movie theatre). Only very fast pans should look choppy (due to natural film judder).
For some reason it's been hard for many TV makers to implement 1080p24 without frame interpolation, flicker, false contouring etc. I now have a 50" LG PK550 (2010); I picked it b/c at the time it was one of the few plasmas to get 1080p24 right (72Hz mode). I'm tempted to upgrade to a 64" Samsung this year but first want to make sure the 96Hz mode has been completely nailed down and ChadB didn't report some new defect.
Thanks in advance!

ChadB's review also says:
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Movie motion was excellent, though if you’re used to the super smooth type of fluidity most modern sets boast then you will find it to be a bit jerky.

I think this is in reference to the lack of motion interpolation on the Samsungs. But it's one of those things you either love or hate, and I'm in the latter category, because in my opinion, it's not true to the experience you get at the cinemas. I think the "pans were choppy" remark may have been just the default Movie mode setting, which has CS off by default (so perhaps more of a comment on how the set deals with film judder, which due to the lack of interpolation, means it will definitely be quite choppy).
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post #2034 of 4155
7/11/12 at 4:42am
Just received my E8000 yesterday and was pleasantly surprised. Popped in Spears and Munsil in my Oppo while in movie mode with cinema smooth on and was surprised that I didn't have to make any basic user adjustments. At least with the test patterns, eveything looked fine and the demo material fantastic.

Regarding buzzing, not any worse than the GT50 I had for a month, and intermittent and not that noticeable at it's worst. Looking forward to enjoying the picture.
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post #2035 of 4155
7/11/12 at 10:48am
Thanks samwbourne and LastMinuteGoal; you guys confirmed just what I was hoping to hear. Finally correct 24p at 4:4 96Hz, awesome!

Count me in the "hate" category for motion interpolation. I don't like movies to be super-smooth unless actually shot that way. Also I think I notice errors (stutters) when interpolation apparently goofs. I've definitely seen this on Panasonic plasmas in stores.
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post #2036 of 4155
7/11/12 at 2:56pm
I'm happy to say that I will be a proud new owner of a 64E7000 this Saturday. I've got all my cables, wall-plates, mount (http://www.amazon.com/Sanus-Systems) and BDI stand ready to go.

The only thing I'm not 100% sure on is break-in.

There's plenty of talk about break-in in this thread, but it's mostly people just saying that they are doing it. Can anyone tell me what the current attitude is on break-in, specifically as it relates to the e7000/e8000 series? Is it just personal preference? Or is it highly advisable and/or necessary? What should be used? The Break-In CD on this site? How long should I run it?
Edited by liquidsense - 7/11/12 at 3:33pm
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post #2037 of 4155
7/11/12 at 8:05pm
I can only comment on my 60e7000 obviously, but in the 35 days or so I've had it I have not seen a single instance of image retention on the screen and I have been in the menus of the tv,avr, and calibration discs plenty of time as well as watching movies in letter box format. Enjoy your new tv, hope you enjoyit as much as I am enjoying mine.
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post #2038 of 4155
7/11/12 at 8:23pm
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I'm happy to say that I will be a proud new owner of a 64E7000 this Saturday. I've got all my cables, wall-plates, mount (http://www.amazon.com/Sanus-Systems) and BDI stand ready to go.
The only thing I'm not 100% sure on is break-in.
There's plenty of talk about break-in in this thread, but it's mostly people just saying that they are doing it. Can anyone tell me what the current attitude is on break-in, specifically as it relates to the e7000/e8000 series? Is it just personal preference? Or is it highly advisable and/or necessary? What should be used? The Break-In CD on this site? How long should I run it?

I don't think you particularly need to follow the old break in slide routine as much as not watching static images (stay away from the channels that insist on continuing to advertise to you as if you're a stupid sumbitch that you need to see their damn logo for the whole program...like to string the marketing guys up who promote this by their little ones), or too much side/bottom/top bar content.... variety is good. Plasmas supposedly need some initial aging of phosphors for first 100 hrs particularly is the basic reason for some routines at beginning particularly.
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post #2039 of 4155
7/11/12 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by liquidsense View Post

The only thing I'm not 100% sure on is break-in.
There's plenty of talk about break-in in this thread, but it's mostly people just saying that they are doing it. Can anyone tell me what the current attitude is on break-in, specifically as it relates to the e7000/e8000 series? Is it just personal preference? Or is it highly advisable and/or necessary? What should be used? The Break-In CD on this site? How long should I run it?

You may want to read this thread http://www.avsforum.com/t/608677/master-burn-in-break-in-thread-all-posts-here-only you can get the break-in panels from a link there. I ran the slides during the first 200 hours, off and on,when I wasn't watching full screen content. The way I looked at the first few hundred hours on the display, is that it would not be detrimental to the lifespan of the panel. What I do notice is that plasma panels improve with age. I feel that if each pixel improves with age, that aging the pixels uniformly early on, is in the best interest of the panel. It's only a few hundred hours, so no big deal. If it's a waste of time, so be it. Some folks feel that running the he'll out of a new engine in a new car is a good idea. I've taken the approach of allowing the components to seat themselves and settle in. Let everything settle in before asking the components to function at peak efficiency.
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post #2040 of 4155
7/11/12 at 8:34pm
Off the current topic about break in --

There seems to be a dearth of technical information in this thread but maybe some of you can comment on the screen uniformity of the E series. Of course, this would include any dirty screen effect and pinkish or greenish discoloration problems. I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
Larry
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