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post #2311 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

On the low setting it was about 48-49 when dithering was no longer noticeable and on normal it was 22-23 for brightness.

Do you by chance have the Directv HR24-500 STB? If so, you should use the Low setting. This is a know problem with the combination of this STB and Samsung plasmas.

Larry
post #2312 of 4281
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Do you by chance have the Directv HR24-500 STB? If so, you should use the Low setting. This is a know problem with the combination of this STB and Samsung plasmas.
Larry
This is on the PS3 if you hold down the home button it will bring up a solid black screen with a few menu options in the center of the screen.
post #2313 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

This is on the PS3 if you hold down the home button it will bring up a solid black screen with a few menu options in the center of the screen.

Oh, there is the source of your problem. The PS3 has options that will correct it. I don't have the PS3 but I think it is the item with the 'narrow' and 'wide' selections. I'm sure that someone will jump in and help you out.


EDIT: Check out the "VIDEO and DISPLAY SETTINGS" here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/931796/official-ps3-faq-master-thread


Larry
Edited by LarryInRI - 8/17/12 at 9:01pm
post #2314 of 4281
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

check out the part in Kill Bill 2 when she is buried in the casket and
before she turns on the flashlight the fade to black goes off and on like crazy.

So is there ny way to turn off the dimming (panel turning off on black) functionality?
post #2315 of 4281
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post

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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

check out the part in Kill Bill 2 when she is buried in the casket and
before she turns on the flashlight the fade to black goes off and on like crazy.

So is there ny way to turn off the dimming (panel turning off on black) functionality?

No.
post #2316 of 4281
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Originally Posted by LarryInRI View Post

Oh, there is the source of your problem. The PS3 has options that will correct it. I don't have the PS3 but I think it is the item with the 'narrow' and 'wide' selections. I'm sure that someone will jump in and help you out.
EDIT: Check out the "VIDEO and DISPLAY SETTINGS" here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/931796/official-ps3-faq-master-thread
Larry
Thanks for the input, but I think what you are talking about is the limited/full hdmi color space feature? When employed (full) can crush black level and cause colors to blow out, so I never have used the function.
post #2317 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

On the low setting it was about 48-49 when dithering was no longer noticeable and on normal it was 22-23 for brightness.

Whatever mode targets closer to 50 is the correct setting. If you read the long post a little bit back it explains why.
post #2318 of 4281
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Originally Posted by strong island 1 View Post

The e7000 does have the evolution kit.
Are you sure about that? from what i can tell it seems only the e8000 has it.
post #2319 of 4281
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

Are you sure about that? from what i can tell it seems only the e8000 has it.

Ya google it and you will see. I can take a picture of the back of my set that says evolution kit right on it and shows how to remove it.

It makes sense because they both have the dual core processor which is probably the only thing besides memory that can be upgraded. In my opinion I would not base my decision on which tv to buy based on the evoltuion kit. it probably will only help with the internet features. Also who knows if Samsung will even use this feature. No technology is ever future proof. I just built a very expensive pc and I am going to be really depressed when in 2 years it sucks. Oh well if you want the best technology this will always happen.
post #2320 of 4281
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Originally Posted by SiGGy View Post

Whatever mode targets closer to 50 is the correct setting. If you read the long post a little bit back it explains why.
yeah, I read the amazingly informative post. I was simply posting my results per hdmi setting.
post #2321 of 4281
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

Are you sure about that? from what i can tell it seems only the e8000 has it.
Yes it has the kit.
post #2322 of 4281
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Originally Posted by strong island 1 View Post

It's also amazing when switching between hdmi black level low and normal. The picture looks so washed out after watching on black level low and switching to normal.

That's your problem. Do NOT use hdmi black level low on the PS3 or comparable device. Use Normal. Black level low will CRUSH BLACKS even on the brightest LCD with gray blacks! (My old CCFL Samsung). You need to set it to Normal, and then calibrate your TV so that nothing looks washed out! Shadow detail and black level should be normal then. Also, you want dynamic contrast off, obviously, and if the TV has any special black enhancement modes, experiment with turning those off if you lose shadow detail.

Boy, I can't wait to go through all this next week when I get my E7000. If I can't get shadow detail to equal my old 2008 LCD set with at least equal black level, this sucker is getting returned. But not until I throw WOW and S&M at it to make sure. Gladiator has some pretty awesome shadow detail test scenes.
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What is the main diffference between the 7000and 8000 series TV. What about the difference in picqure quality. Are the remotes the same??? Football season is here, I need t buy!!!!!!!!!1
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Bestbuy only had the 64 e8000 so i ended up getting that over the e7000. Probably would have got the e7000 otherwise. Only question I have so far is... Is there a way i can control my tv from my cox remote? I cant seem to get the tv to power on or off with the cox remote.
post #2325 of 4281
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

Bestbuy only had the 64 e8000 so i ended up getting that over the e7000. Probably would have got the e7000 otherwise. Only question I have so far is... Is there a way i can control my tv from my cox remote? I cant seem to get the tv to power on or off with the cox remote.

Have you tried inputting one of these codes in your remote (from the Cox universal remote guide http://www.cox.com/support/digitalcable/hdtv/pdf/Universal_Remote.pdf ) 0060, 0030, 0178, 0019, 0056, 0032?

That said, do yourself a favour, having purchased a very nice high-end TV, and purchase a Logitech Harmony remote. For the outlay you have made, the cost for say a Logitech Harmony One is a pittance.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~q70726f63657373696e6774696d653a3e313930302d30312d3031~~cabcat0100000%23%230%23%23u8~~cabcat0107000%23%230%23%23bt~~cabcat0107039%23%230%23%231a~~nf398||4c6f676974656368&list=y&nrp=15&sc=TVVideoSP&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&usc=abcat0100000
post #2326 of 4281
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Originally Posted by dad0118 View Post

Obviously go with the 8000. The only people saying the PQ on the 7000 is better are 7000 owners. Also, don't forget that the 8000 has the evolution kit upgradability, while the 7000 does not.

Wrong. The 7000 does have the Evolution upgrade capability.

THe only people saying the PQ on the 8000 is better are 8000 owners.

I did not really need the wavy talky features myself. Just old school remote for me or maybe an iOS app.. Would rather spend the extra somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by PeterG View Post

Have you tried inputting one of these codes in your remote (from the Cox universal remote guide http://www.cox.com/support/digitalcable/hdtv/pdf/Universal_Remote.pdf ) 0060, 0030, 0178, 0019, 0056, 0032?
That said, do yourself a favour, having purchased a very nice high-end TV, and purchase a Logitech Harmony remote. For the outlay you have made, the cost for say a Logitech Harmony One is a pittance.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~q70726f63657373696e6774696d653a3e313930302d30312d3031~~cabcat0100000%23%230%23%23u8~~cabcat0107000%23%230%23%23bt~~cabcat0107039%23%230%23%231a~~nf398||4c6f676974656368&list=y&nrp=15&sc=TVVideoSP&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&usc=abcat0100000
which is the recommended model? I think my work has the harmony one but it has a charge station. Do they have one without the charge station? I would prefer to change out normal batteries then have a unit that can break and then noway to charge it.
post #2328 of 4281
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

which is the recommended model? I think my work has the harmony one but it has a charge station. Do they have one without the charge station? I would prefer to change out normal batteries then have a unit that can break and then noway to charge it.

I have both a 600 and 650, they both work off AA batteries. Relatively inexpensive if you shop a bit, maybe not all the bells and whistles but do the job quite well.

ps Do not go for the lowest end Harmony, they require a different website from the normal Harmony remote for programming and it (that website) worked like crap---I returned that one (think it was called the 300).
Edited by lovinthehd - 8/19/12 at 6:07pm
post #2329 of 4281
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Originally Posted by djtoodles View Post

which is the recommended model? I think my work has the harmony one but it has a charge station. Do they have one without the charge station? I would prefer to change out normal batteries then have a unit that can break and then noway to charge it.

I have the Harmony 700. It charges just like a cell phone with a micro USB cable and has replaceable AA rechargeable batteries. I really got tired of devices that use special batteries. The 700 controls 8 devices which is fine for me. The charge lasts a week with heavy use.
Edited by ferl - 8/19/12 at 6:08pm
post #2330 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Flavius View Post

That's your problem. Do NOT use hdmi black level low on the PS3 or comparable device. Use Normal. Black level low will CRUSH BLACKS even on the brightest LCD with gray blacks! (My old CCFL Samsung). You need to set it to Normal, and then calibrate your TV so that nothing looks washed out! Shadow detail and black level should be normal then. Also, you want dynamic contrast off, obviously, and if the TV has any special black enhancement modes, experiment with turning those off if you lose shadow detail.

Don't have the PS3 at hand, so can't test exactly, but from memory, if you've set Blu-ray/DVD output to "YCbCr or Auto" the PS3 (the Super White option should also be on), then when Blu-ray/DVD playback is happening, the RGB full/limited option isn't really in play here because the signal isn't a RGB one, and the HDMI low/normal option on the Samsung will be equally ignored too (greyed out).

For everything else, eg. gaming, XMB (where output is always RGB), the recommendation is to use RGB Full (on the PS3) with HDMI Normal (on the Samsung), as the range will then match (0-255). The PS3 is essentially a PC, and so it makes sense that the full RGB level (or "PC Level") is being used instead of limited (or "Video Level") for everything except for DVD/Blu-ray (if you've enabled the correct "YCbCr or Auto" output setting above).

If you set to Limited, then you have to use HDMI Low to similarly match the RGB range, and the picture shouldn't look that much different/worse compared to Full/Normal (although there's no reason to do this unless your TV does not support PC level inputs - but the E7000/E8000 does, so moot point really).

If your brightness setting stays too far from 50, then you've mismatched the settings (eg. with RGB limited, and HDMI level set to Normal, which I believe is the default setting for both devices, would leave the picture too washed out at the default Movie mode setting on the TV - to make blacks look black, you will have to adjust brightness to something low like 20, which isn't right).
post #2331 of 4281
quick question from a strictly picture quality standpoint is their any major PQ improvement from a pn60e7000 vs. a pn60e6500?
post #2332 of 4281
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

I have the Harmony 700. It charges just like a cell phone with a micro USB cable and has replaceable AA rechargeable batteries. I really got tired of devices that use special batteries. The 700 controls 8 devices which is fine for me. The charge lasts a week with heavy use.

I use the 700 model harmony as well but I just use regular AA batteries instead of the rechargalbe battery it came with. Oh and to the original poster asking about the Harmony's, don't forget when picking one you need to check that it handles the amount of devices you have, the cheaper ones don't control as many devices.
post #2333 of 4281
I wonder why my 60pne7000 does not have the evolution kit.dosent really bother me thou since its probly just speed up the browsing and slightly improve processing
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Quick question in regards to 3D and Cinema Smooth on the E8000 - with CS on, I notice that telecine judder is removed even in 3D mode, so am I now only seeing 48 Hz in each eye (display showing 96 Hz), as opposed to 60 Hz (with the display showing 120 Hz), right?
post #2335 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Cev214 View Post

I wonder why my 60pne7000 does not have the evolution kit.dosent really bother me thou since its probly just speed up the browsing and slightly improve processing
If you look on the back panel near your inputs there should be a sticker that you remove, with instructions on the installation of the kit.
post #2336 of 4281
So is the consensus that the E series Samsung plasmas are an improvement over the D series? My D7000 has developed the dreaded FBr issue and if Samsung ends up offering me a replacement I want to make sure I'm not getting an even worse set. (I remember reading that many thought the D series had more issues than the C series)
post #2337 of 4281
Omg it is there,I can't believe I never saw it, thank u sooo much bro
post #2338 of 4281
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Originally Posted by JMUdukes07 View Post

So is the consensus that the E series Samsung plasmas are an improvement over the D series?

Yes.
post #2339 of 4281
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Originally Posted by swillis55 View Post

Yes.

I love this tv PN60E8000 mine has no BUZZ and now i have HBOGO that was my big gripe that it didn't have HBOGO now it does so i have HBOGO on my PN50C7000 (no BUZZ) and my UN46D8000 three rooms three great tv's
post #2340 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Cev214 View Post

Omg it is there,I can't believe I never saw it, thank u sooo much bro
Yeah, no sweat.
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