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post #241 of 4210
3/27/12 at 7:13am
I'll agree that the ABL is really hurting these sets. I love my D7000 aside from the fact that hockey is extremely annoying on it. I love hockey so that kind of creates a big issue for me.

It's kind of ridiculous that watching hockey is more enjoyable on my Panasonic 46PZ85U from 2008 than it is on the high end Samsung 59D7000 in 2012.
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post #242 of 4210
3/27/12 at 8:20am
Just had a PN64E8000 installed yesterday. I am hearing a fair amount of electronic noise generated from the TV when watching it - whether it's cable, Blu-ray 3D, X-Box or Wii. It's even present when the TV is on mute, but it is minimized when video is not projected; for example, in between commercials. Just by putting my ear up to sources, I can tell it is not the speakers (either the internal TV speakers, which are set to zero, the center channel above the TV or the sub below the TV). It seems to be coming directly from the screen.

I have been a bit out of the loop since buying our last TV - a Pioneer Elite with no problems - in 2003. Is it likely that this electronic noise I am hearing is the "buzzing" people have been bringing up on this thread?
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post #243 of 4210
3/27/12 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by adrian s View Post

Then why are you discussing Panasonic!

yes adrian, even I can get sucked into a conversation. I just want to stop the comparison bs, there is a thread for that. If I was concerned about another manufacturer (panasonic) I would go to that thread, please guys, lets keep this thread on topic. I get the occasional reference or statistical difference but I really would appreciate the main topic to stay with SAMSUNG PNXXE7000/8000 PLEASE. Any issues noticed, anything good about the tv, how different aspects of the tv work - or don't work, whatever, as long as it is about samsung pnxxe7000-8000, or even similarly close like the samsung pnxxe6500.
thank you

god bless
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post #244 of 4210
3/27/12 at 9:43am
So turning the Eco Sensor off would be the best thing to do prior to making any picture adjustments and likely no reason to turn it back on?
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post #245 of 4210
3/27/12 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by Dukecat View Post

Just had a PN64E8000 installed yesterday. I am hearing a fair amount of electronic noise generated from the TV when watching it - whether it's cable, Blu-ray 3D, X-Box or Wii. It's even present when the TV is on mute, but it is minimized when video is not projected; for example, in between commercials. Just by putting my ear up to sources, I can tell it is not the speakers (either the internal TV speakers, which are set to zero, the center channel above the TV or the sub below the TV). It seems to be coming directly from the screen.

I have been a bit out of the loop since buying our last TV - a Pioneer Elite with no problems - in 2003. Is it likely that this electronic noise I am hearing is the "buzzing" people have been bringing up on this thread?

Sorry to hear about the buzzing/hum you hear. Did you attach to your power cord the ferrite cores that come with the set?
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post #246 of 4210
3/27/12 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Sorry to hear about the buzzing/hum you hear. Did you attach to your power cord the ferrite cores that come with the set?

The owners manual only has you attaching one ferrite to the power, and the other one to your lan/coax cable.

Just received my second PN64E8000. This buzz is still noticeable, but not nearly as loud as my 1st set. My C8000 never buzzed. Anyway, I might keep this one. I have about 20 more days before I have to return it to BB.
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post #247 of 4210
3/27/12 at 11:24am
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No but I don't expect the E series to improve much, Samsung is claiming 10% which would put the larger panels at about 0.006 ftL.



I have never seen a bright scene flicker so I don't believe there is anything to fix there. They have fixed the low level "pops" in the D series late in the cycle and I expect the E series will be fine in that regard. The blacks will probably still float a bit, this is something endemic to the samsung panel drive system.

Thanks Zoyd, looks like a European/UK thing only then , Bright scene pops/Flicker affect my set and a few other UK owners.
Cheers.
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post #248 of 4210
3/27/12 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by tonyjd40 View Post

Wrong thread, sorry.

Oh Sorry, I will just butt out then, I thought you guys were a little more helpful than that , Silly me,

Cheers
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post #249 of 4210
3/27/12 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

Sorry if you were unaware that this is a plasma forum.

Rant duly noted

I am well aware it's a plasma forum. You made a completely erroneous statement that Energy Star is killing high-end displays. I spent one sentence explaining that there was an entire category of high-end displays it wasn't touching. I then dissected the issues with plasmas for the entire remainder of the post.

Oh, and entirely off-topic to your point but related to another person's:

When installing the ferrite cores, I suggest people spend a moment becoming fully convinced they will somehow affect the buzzing, then snap the cores shut and then walk away from the TV satisfied they have reduced their buzzing.

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Now, the rest of you still reading should know that ferrite cores are going to do nothing (or incredibly nearly nothing) to affect the buzzing in a plasma television. Unfortunately.
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post #250 of 4210
3/27/12 at 1:28pm
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I am well aware it's a plasma forum. You made a completely erroneous statement that Energy Star is killing high-end displays. I spent one sentence explaining that there was an entire category of high-end displays it wasn't touching. I then dissected the issues with plasmas for the entire remainder of the post.

Oh, and entirely off-topic to your point but related to another person's:

When installing the ferrite cores, I suggest people spend a moment becoming fully convinced they will somehow affect the buzzing, then snap the cores shut and then walk away from the TV satisfied they have reduced their buzzing.

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Now, the rest of you still reading should know that ferrite cores are going to do nothing (or incredibly nearly nothing) to affect the buzzing in a plasma television. Unfortunately.

Well I do apologize for any misinformation that I have posted.
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post #251 of 4210
3/27/12 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Sorry to hear about the buzzing/hum you hear. Did you attach to your power cord the ferrite cores that come with the set?

I am checking with the installers to confirm, but I don't think so.
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post #252 of 4210
3/27/12 at 2:55pm
What exactly does the ferrite cord metal piece do? Does it just help static in the picture if their or will it help with like clicking noises that I get sometimes from my e8000 even when tv is off. Thanks to who has the knowledge!!!
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post #253 of 4210
3/27/12 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

Well I do apologize for any misinformation that I have posted.

Forgive my apparent tone. No apologize on your part is necessary, I was clarifying in reaction to what I perceived was a bit of hostility. We're good and I'm sorry if I came across in any negative way.

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What exactly does the ferrite cord metal piece do? Does it just help static in the picture if their or will it help with like clicking noises that I get sometimes from my e8000 even when tv is off. Thanks to who has the knowledge!!!

Ferrite cores reduce electromagnetic interference from getting broadcast by your devices back into the wild mostly and also act as a stop from having the cord receive interference and drag it into the device. But they are more placebo than panacea.

The thing in your plasma that's buzzing isn't from some sort of EMI.
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post #254 of 4210
3/27/12 at 4:40pm
My new PN51E8000 was delivered today (bought from BB). The picture is outstanding out of the box in Movie mode. Any suggestions for preferred calibration settings?
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post #255 of 4210
3/27/12 at 5:27pm
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Originally Posted by apeas2 View Post

I just got my 64E8000 set up. I replaced my C8000 which samsung bought back after my panel failed. My C8000 was silent. My E8000 has a horibble buzz. It can only be heard when sitting (not standing) directly in front of my TV. I have a large sectional about 13 feet away, and the buzz is loud and annoying. My furniture hasnt been moved either. I can sit in almost all of the other sofa cushions and not here the buzz. If I go back to the cushion directly in front, its super loud, super bad. It appears to get louder with a brighter picture as well. I am glad I bought this unit from BB ($3100) and not online. I will let it break in for a few days. I also tried it with all of my components shut off, and it did not make a difference.

Super bummed out!

I have the same issue, at least in the sense that the noise is strongest when seated directly in front of the TV. I stand up from the sofa, but am otherwise the same distance and location relative to the TV, and the noise is not nearly as audible.
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post #256 of 4210
3/27/12 at 6:25pm
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Originally Posted by adrian s View Post

.006 is what I measured on the E. Oddly enough I measured .004 with CS Engaged

What meter? I've found that my samsung darkens a little after running some content so I always do the black measurement after running a 50% pattern for 30 seconds or so. What do you get for ANSI measurements and the black pattern in the large APL sequence?
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post #257 of 4210
3/27/12 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by tonyjd40 View Post

Guy's, not sure about your store experience but I have the PN60E8000, and the camera works fantastic. Also, the voice control works flawlessly. The motion control takes a bit to get used to but it is also working fine. I can tell you that I did a side by side here at home with the D8000 and BIG DIFFERENCE in pq. The PN60E8000 is super clear and very crisp. The D8000 was great but this is alot better especially for clarity. The 3d is also exceptional with NO DISTORTION OR GHOSTING at all. I put in Avatar 3d , Alice in wonderland, Tangled 3d, and Imax under the sea and they were all incredible. The camera works great for skype as I have tried it. Also the remote works fine for me, no problems at all with the touch pad. I hear no buzzing from my set , even when it is very quiet. I have not noticed any judder, now having said that I probably will as I am very sensitive to it. lol. I can not really explain how great the 3d is , brightness is improved , but the pure realism of it is great, no xtalk, no ghosting, just realism that you really need to see. Maybe it was the store set up or something else but I can tell you as an owner these features work fine. I am getting another 64 inch tv for our living room and the only tv I think would even be a consideration for me other then the PN64E8000 would be the Panasonic 65VT50. Every one knows in store results of tv viewing or feature trials is poor due to many reasons. I whole heartedly recommend this tv , with no reservations. ENJOY. D-nice will be doing my calibrations after I get my 64/65 incher and have run the slides for 150 hours.


god bless

You really should consider paragraphs. This and the OP are painful to read and is quite poor for an OP for an "Official" model thread.

Just a suggestion, Cheers
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post #258 of 4210
3/27/12 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

What meter? I've found that my samsung darkens a little after running some content so I always do the black measurement after running a 50% pattern for 30 seconds or so. What do you get for ANSI measurements and the black pattern in the large APL sequence?

ANSI with CS on was 0% .0052 100% 26.7 = 5202
CS off was 0% .0067 100% 27.4 = 4100
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post #259 of 4210
3/27/12 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

What meter? I've found that my samsung darkens a little after running some content so I always do the black measurement after running a 50% pattern for 30 seconds or so. What do you get for ANSI measurements and the black pattern in the large APL sequence?

D3 pro
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post #260 of 4210
3/27/12 at 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by adrian s View Post

ANSI with CS on was 0% .0052 100% 26.7 = 5202
CS off was 0% .0067 100% 27.4 = 4100

Thanks, that's great to see CS fixed! 2011 samsungs also suffer from a floating black which is not present when measuring ANSI black. It would be great if you could check if the 2012s still have this problem. The easiest way to see it is to measure the black portion of the flashing bars test pattern under Basic settings on the AVSHD disk.
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post #261 of 4210
3/27/12 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

Thanks, that's great to see CS fixed! 2011 samsungs also suffer from a floating black which is not present when measuring ANSI black. It would be great if you could check if the 2012s still have this problem. The easiest way to see it is to measure the black portion of the flashing bars test pattern under Basic settings on the AVSHD disk.

I will check it and get back with you. I agree the CS fix is huge
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post #262 of 4210
3/27/12 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by zoyd View Post

Thanks, that's great to see CS fixed! 2011 samsungs also suffer from a floating black which is not present when measuring ANSI black. It would be great if you could check if the 2012s still have this problem. The easiest way to see it is to measure the black portion of the flashing bars test pattern under Basic settings on the AVSHD disk.

On that particular test pattern i got .0052 CS on and .0064 CS off
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post #263 of 4210
3/27/12 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by tonyjd40 View Post

I can not see spending $700 more for the 65vt over the 64E8000, price for the 64 E8000 Sammy is only $3299

MSRP for 65VT50 is $3699. Street would be lower
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post #264 of 4210
3/27/12 at 7:41pm
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On that particular test pattern i got .0052 CS on and .0064 CS off

nifty, that's another good data point.
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post #265 of 4210
3/27/12 at 8:02pm
damn. samsung decides to the black in half on the newer models. i just bought my 51d about 6 weeks ago. that extra black would be awesome on an already awesome screen.
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post #266 of 4210
3/27/12 at 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by adrian s View Post

.006 is what I measured on the E. Oddly enough I measured .004 with CS Engaged

What size is your panel?
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post #267 of 4210
3/28/12 at 3:22am
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what size is your panel?

60
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post #268 of 4210
3/28/12 at 11:30am
I have a 65' Mitsubishi 1080p DLP w/ 3D. Its about 5 year old now, and still runs great. And I just replaced the bulb, so its back up to full brightness. But I am wondering if now is the time to upgrade. I am a new to plasma, and a bit hesitant. The last thing I want to do is spend 3+ grand on a TV and have it not last over 5 years. Or have some other problem that I have to live with, like buzzing or screen peal or any other problems that Plasma TV's have. I have an onkyo 809 receiver, so I do not think the buzzing will an issue. I understand that all TV's have pluses and minuses. I am just wondering if the picture quality is that good. A guy at my work just purchased a D7000, off of amazon. He says it looks fantastic, and he is upgrading from an LED dlp.

On a side note, I love the size of my 65' Tv( measured the diagonal, and it was actually 64 1/2) I am wondering what is the actual measurement of the tv. Did they round up like the manufactures of my tv?
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post #269 of 4210
3/28/12 at 12:01pm
Yes, dodkalm, everyone rounds up. Pretty much every flat panel's diagonal is about 1/2" less than the quoted number.
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post #270 of 4210
3/28/12 at 5:47pm
How do I check for the number of hours the plasma panel has? The procedure is not the same as it is for the 2011 Samsung plasma. When I go into the SM and highlight "SVcS" and hit enter NO panel hours used entry is shown. Anyone know the new procedure?
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