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post #2551 of 4279
Thank You guys for the opinions.

Here is my thing. I want to keep my purchase within 2000 and 2300

My thing is that I can get the 60E8000 for 2300 or the 64D8000 for 2000

Is the E8000 smaller and $300 more worth it over the 64D8000


I did look at the 7000E but I am not a huge fan of the color of it and feel the black of the 8000 is sexier for lack of a better word.

If I was to get the 60E7000 I would spend the same as the 64D8000 and in terms of those 2 is it worth to go lower in size and model number?
post #2552 of 4279
Well the e7000 does have a better picture than the d8000, also u have to remember that the e7000 has the evolution kit, the spokesman for samsung on the hdtv shootout said the will more than likely add a new video processor which can make the picture even smoother,upgrades will be yearly until 2016. The d8000 does not offer this kit. My e7000 looked great out the box,but the picture is sooo much better now at the 200 hour mark
post #2553 of 4279
I have a e7000 panel and notice bad color banding on dark scenes. Is this a display problem or a problem with the source material. A DVRd DirecTV of Cowboys vs Aliens?

Is there a setting/adjustment to look at to reduce the banding?
post #2554 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Cev214 View Post

Well the e7000 does have a better picture than the d8000, also u have to remember that the e7000 has the evolution kit, the spokesman for samsung on the hdtv shootout said the will more than likely add a new video processor which can make the picture even smoother,upgrades will be yearly until 2016. The d8000 does not offer this kit. My e7000 looked great out the box,but the picture is sooo much better now at the 200 hour mark


Well I will settle on the E7000 or E8000 but in order to get the 64 version of the 8000 I have to wait a bit to hold me over. I might be able to get the 64E7000 sooner and I can get the 60 for either model right away.

Just that 60 is so small
post #2555 of 4279
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Originally Posted by DrewM View Post

I have a e7000 panel and notice bad color banding on dark scenes. Is this a display problem or a problem with the source material. A DVRd DirecTV of Cowboys vs Aliens?
Is there a setting/adjustment to look at to reduce the banding?

I have that movie DVR'd from Dish. I don't recall any issues and don't notice issues with dark scenes in other movies. At what time and which scene in the movie do you see this issue? Which mode are you using and have you "tweaked" the settings of that mode?
post #2556 of 4279
Hi guys. Does anyone have an Apple TV 3 hooked up to a 7000 series? I just bought a Sharp 847u TV and while it may sound crazy, one of my primary sources is my 900 DVD collection meticulously ripped for playback via Apple TVs throughout the house. The Sharp TV is producing unwatchable motion artifacts with any motion enhancements turned on, and with them off, I still get remements of the SOE plus juddering. So I'm looking to exchange it for the Samsung 7000 series plasma. Could someone with this TV who frequently uses an Apple TV (especially self-ripped DVDs, I use Handbrake High Profile) please tell me if they experience motion artifacts (SOE, juddering, etc.)?

Thanks in advance.
post #2557 of 4279
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I have that movie DVR'd from Dish. I don't recall any issues and don't notice issues with dark scenes in other movies. At what time and which scene in the movie do you see this issue? Which mode are you using and have you "tweaked" the settings of that mode?

The scenes in the boat and in the caves. Didn't do it on the bright scenes. The set is set like reccomend by cnet (everything off etc.) I used WOW to set color, contrast etc.

I've only watched one bluray (Hunger Games) didn't see the problem and don't notice it on ESPN's college football.
post #2558 of 4279
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Originally Posted by DrewM View Post

The scenes in the boat and in the caves. Didn't do it on the bright scenes. The set is set like reccomend by cnet (everything off etc.) I used WOW to set color, contrast etc.
I've only watched one bluray (Hunger Games) didn't see the problem and don't notice it on ESPN's college football.

I've used the CNET settings on movie mode also and used the Disney WOW for color, tint, contrast, sharpness and brightness. I just watched the scenes in the movie and didn't see any obvious issues. If I'm finding the scenes you're referring to, the upside down boat is about 45 min in and the cave is around 1 hour 30 min in. Ths movie has quite a lot of dark scenes and I'm not finding any issues.
post #2559 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

I've used the CNET settings on movie mode also and used the Disney WOW for color, tint, contrast, sharpness and brightness. I just watched the scenes in the movie and didn't see any obvious issues. If I'm finding the scenes you're referring to, the upside down boat is about 45 min in and the cave is around 1 hour 30 min in. Ths movie has quite a lot of dark scenes and I'm not finding any issues.

Interesting it might be my source materal is different than dish. By no meens am I an expert on these things, but something I read talked about 8-bit color vs higher color resolution. What is the bit rate for these displays. Is DTV perhaps using a lower bit transmission.


Any of the dark scenes in the boat showed the banding. I would also notice it from time to time on the faces of the actors.

I need to watch one of my Batman BR to see what they look like.


The A's Yankees game look real good tonight.
post #2560 of 4279
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Originally Posted by DrewM View Post

Interesting it might be my source materal is different than dish. By no meens am I an expert on these things, but something I read talked about 8-bit color vs higher color resolution. What is the bit rate for these displays. Is DTV perhaps using a lower bit transmission.
Any of the dark scenes in the boat showed the banding. I would also notice it from time to time on the faces of the actors.
I need to watch one of my Batman BR to see what they look like.
The A's Yankees game look real good tonight.[/quote

i had a 60" gt 50 before,and I returned it for an e7000 . when I watched that same movie on the gt, via directv it looked amazing on the bright scenes, and awful on the dark ones. the gt had major isissues with non bluray feeds, but since you mentioned issues with the Sammy I'm starting to think it's directv feed. I was watching it during a free HBO weekend. haven't watched it on the Sammy yet, but this tv definitely handles lower feeds better. where youwatching on HBO? maybe it's there feed and not directv. IDK
post #2561 of 4279
To anyone using the ps3 via pn60e7000, when watching blurays, everything is fine.
But when i play games at 720p, the brightness increase. Is that normal?

I still have the firmware 1013, i tried several times to upgrade to 1034 but i get an error before it finish downloading. Might have to do with the fact I live overseas, who knows....

Can anyone recommend 3d settings? Or should I live it has default?

Thanks.
post #2562 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Charles J P View Post

Hi guys. Does anyone have an Apple TV 3 hooked up to a 7000 series? I just bought a Sharp 847u TV and while it may sound crazy, one of my primary sources is my 900 DVD collection meticulously ripped for playback via Apple TVs throughout the house. The Sharp TV is producing unwatchable motion artifacts with any motion enhancements turned on, and with them off, I still get remements of the SOE plus juddering. So I'm looking to exchange it for the Samsung 7000 series plasma. Could someone with this TV who frequently uses an Apple TV (especially self-ripped DVDs, I use Handbrake High Profile) please tell me if they experience motion artifacts (SOE, juddering, etc.)?
Thanks in advance.

Hate to bump my question but would really love an answer before I do an exchange that is probably going to cost me a delivery fee.
post #2563 of 4279
anyone using a darbee darblet with e7000? I returned my panny gt50 due to dull, blurred images on non bluray content. seems many gt owners have same issue, and some have fixed it with the darbee. if the darbee can help that tv, I'm wondering how much better it could make this tv. not complaining about sharpness or pq with this tv, just wondering if the DD would make it almost perfect.
post #2564 of 4279
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Originally Posted by DrewM View Post

Interesting it might be my source materal is different than dish. By no meens am I an expert on these things, but something I read talked about 8-bit color vs higher color resolution. What is the bit rate for these displays. Is DTV perhaps using a lower bit transmission.
Any of the dark scenes in the boat showed the banding. I would also notice it from time to time on the faces of the actors.
I need to watch one of my Batman BR to see what they look like.
The A's Yankees game look real good tonight.[/quote
i had a 60" gt 50 before,and I returned it for an e7000 . when I watched that same movie on the gt, via directv it looked amazing on the bright scenes, and awful on the dark ones. the gt had major isissues with non bluray feeds, but since you mentioned issues with the Sammy I'm starting to think it's directv feed. I was watching it during a free HBO weekend. haven't watched it on the Sammy yet, but this tv definitely handles lower feeds better. where youwatching on HBO? maybe it's there feed and not directv. IDK

It was from a free pre from Starz. Too much college football and not enough time to test it with u-571 on HD-DVD, but I will soon and post my results.
post #2565 of 4279
Hey guys...I just joined this site after a long time of reading and learning (still learning, of course).

I just went and picked up the PN60E7000, put together a new tv stand, and have this beauty sitting atop just waiting to be turned on.

Now, it's going to be about another 2 weeks before DirectTv can make it out here to hook us up, but I figured I would just go ahead and buy the tv and run the break in slides for about 150-200 hours until then.

Can I go ahead and turn the tv on without any cable or satellite source being fed, just to run the break in slides? Will this affect the initial set up of the tv seeing as how I have never turned the tv on?
post #2566 of 4279
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Originally Posted by X Factor View Post


Can I go ahead and turn the tv on without any cable or satellite source being fed, just to run the break in slides? Will this affect the initial set up of the tv seeing as how I have never turned the tv on?
Are you saying that you don't have a DVD or Blu-ray player?
post #2567 of 4279
No, I have a BDP, a Sony S790. I'm a first time plasma owner. I downloaded the break in slides onto a thumb drive.

I was just wondering if I can go ahead and turn the tv on, insert the thumb drive and start running the slides.

I haven't hooked up any of my components yet (Receiver, BDP, etc.). Won't be getting directtv for another 2 weeks.
post #2568 of 4279
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Originally Posted by X Factor View Post

No, I have a BDP, a Sony S790. I'm a first time plasma owner. I downloaded the break in slides onto a thumb drive.
I was just wondering if I can go ahead and turn the tv on, insert the thumb drive and start running the slides.
I haven't hooked up any of my components yet (Receiver, BDP, etc.). Won't be getting directtv for another 2 weeks.

Yes you can.
post #2569 of 4279
You should also try buying a $25 set of rabbit ears at Radio Shack - you might be real surprised how many channels you will pick up to watch.
post #2570 of 4279
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Originally Posted by X Factor View Post

No, I have a BDP, a Sony S790. I'm a first time plasma owner. I downloaded the break in slides onto a thumb drive.
I was just wondering if I can go ahead and turn the tv on, insert the thumb drive and start running the slides.
I haven't hooked up any of my components yet (Receiver, BDP, etc.). Won't be getting directtv for another 2 weeks.

Just keep in mind most failures on all tvs show up early so you need to put some hours on the new tv to be sure it has no issues while you are still in your return window. Some type of antenna is a good idea to get ota locals till Directv is installed. Also note Directv has a ota reciever (AM21) that can be used in conjunction with their HD DVRs, comes in handy during heavy rain or snow.
post #2571 of 4279
Hey guys am at about 200 hours on my 60 e7000,I've mainly been using slides to break in the tv,I've have been using extremely low settings on my set for the break in, contrast 60 ,brightness 40 .. Color 40.. Sharpness 0..cell light 6...anyways Its been a few weeks since I had tried a bluray,until yesterday that I popped in disneys UP",,,I was pretty amazed on how good it looked considering I was using those awful setting for the whole movie,I can only imagine how good this set will look once calibrated..I took some pics while the movie was playing and uploaded them to my profile if u guys wanna see them.".....REmember I was using the break in settings I mentioned above
post #2572 of 4279
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Originally Posted by X Factor View Post

No, I have a BDP, a Sony S790. I'm a first time plasma owner.
You can also play a DVD or Blu-ray of a movie with an aspect ration of 1.78:1 (16x9). Put it on repeat but check to be sure it's repeating the main feature. That will put some hours on your display.

You can also watch movies. There is nothing magic about the slides. Originally they were suggested by D-Nice for those who bought the same models that he has calibrated and posted settings. The idea was to exactly duplicate his calibration procedure.

I don't think he has ever posted settings for your display. If that's correct, watching movies or running one full screen is what I would do until you have additional sources.

The main reason for putting hours on your display is to allow it to fail early while you have time to exchange it. Typically electronic failures happen at a much higher rate when they are first put into service.
post #2573 of 4279
Quote: Originally Posted by cdub5


Quote: Originally Posted by DrewM

Interesting it might be my source materal is different than dish. By no meens am I an expert on these things, but something I read talked about 8-bit color vs higher color resolution. What is the bit rate for these displays. Is DTV perhaps using a lower bit transmission.

Any of the dark scenes in the boat showed the banding. I would also notice it from time to time on the faces of the actors.
I need to watch one of my Batman BR to see what they look like.

The A's Yankees game look real good tonight.[/quote

i had a 60" gt 50 before,and I returned it for an e7000 . when I watched that same movie on the gt, via directv it looked amazing on the bright scenes, and awful on the dark ones. the gt had major isissues with non bluray feeds, but since you mentioned issues with the Sammy I'm starting to think it's directv feed. I was watching it during a free HBO weekend. haven't watched it on the Sammy yet, but this tv definitely handles lower feeds better. where youwatching on HBO? maybe it's there feed and not directv. IDK

It was from a free pre from Starz. Too much college football and not enough time to test it with u-571 on HD-DVD, but I will soon and post my results.


After watching U-571 I can definitely state that the problem was with the DTV source material. All the dark scenes looked as they should have. I was looking for problems and didn't see any. All the scenes inside the sub with the smoke looked great.

I'm surprised I haven't seen more of this problem brought up before, it was so bad on the DTV movie it was distracting.
post #2574 of 4279
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You can also play a DVD or Blu-ray of a movie with an aspect ration of 1.78:1 (16x9). Put it on repeat but check to be sure it's repeating the main feature. That will put some hours on your display.
You can also watch movies. There is nothing magic about the slides. Originally they were suggested by D-Nice for those who bought the same models that he has calibrated and posted settings. The idea was to exactly duplicate his calibration procedure.
I don't think he has ever posted settings for your display. If that's correct, watching movies or running one full screen is what I would do until you have additional sources.
The main reason for putting hours on your display is to allow it to fail early while you have time to exchange it. Typically electronic failures happen at a much higher rate when they are first put into service.

My approach partially agrees with the opinions Yoga posted. Electronics tend to fail early in their life. If they work correctly after a month or two they most likely will continue to function correctly.

In my limited experience with plasma (I've owned two), they appear to look better as they age up to 500 -1000 hours. My reasoning concludes that the pixels initially Impove as they age. I'm probably wrong here, but don't the individual pixels posess the ability to display a very limited range of color? The slides exercise each and every pixel uniformly spanning the limits of their range. It would seem to me that aging each pixel the same as all the others, would produce the most accurate representation of the source material. If D-Nice (I have no idea who ths is) was of the opinion that running slides perpetuated a common ground, it substantiates my opinion.
I've chosen to run the slides on both of my displays. I can't prove that I have benefited from this practice or not.
post #2575 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

If you're used to a 65" display I bet you won't be satisfied with less. I have an 8000 and agree that the voice/motion controls are useless crap. I basically use the display as a monitor except for the occasional use of Netflix. My satellite and BluRay are fed through an AV receiver.
The only advantage I see to the 8000 is the built in camera for Skype. I don't use use Skype, but if I did, I could see the advantage of not having another accoutrement in order to use the feature. Is that worth $300 ? if you're in the $2500 -$3000 range already, and might use Skype, what the hell, go for it.
That being said, if I had to do it again, I might go the 7000 route and enjoy a nice dinner out with my wife for the difference.
The 8000 does process lower quality content better than the 7000. So anything coming in from satellite or cable will look better on the 8000. not sure if that warrants the extra money though.
post #2576 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

I've chosen to run the slides on both of my displays. I can't prove that I have benefited from this practice or not.
No one else can prove anything either way. It's a choice each owner makes, but it shouldn't be presented as a requirement.

D-Nice is a professional calibrator with an outstanding reputation here at AVS and at HDJ.
post #2577 of 4279
Acording to cnet the 8000 handles a noisy signal better than the 6500 not the 7000, i have a 60 7000 and my bro in law has a 51 e8000 ,we both have direct tv and they both look about the same,if anything mine looks better kuz of the size
post #2578 of 4279
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

No one else can prove anything either way. It's a choice each owner makes, but it shouldn't be presented as a requirement.
D-Nice is a professional calibrator with an outstanding reputation here at AVS and at HDJ.

Exactly, I don't recall anyone stating it was a requirement.

If using the slides replicated the process that a calibrator with an outstanding reputation used, why not run them?
post #2579 of 4279
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

No one else can prove anything either way. It's a choice each owner makes, but it shouldn't be presented as a requirement.
D-Nice is a professional calibrator with an outstanding reputation here at AVS and at HDJ.

Exactly, I don't recall anyone stating it was a requirement.

If using the slides replicated the process that a calibrator with an outstanding reputation used, why not run them?
A lot of new plasma owners are made to feel that it's a requirement even if they don't own one of the models calibrated by D-NIce.

Also, D-Nice has been very careful to point out that exactly following his instructions before using his settings will not match having a display calibrated by a qualified professional calibrator. What he does point out is that if properly done, his settings are a good starting point for further adjustment by the owner.
post #2580 of 4279
What glasses are you guys recommending for these sets? I have my E6500 coming this week and I understand that the two pairs that come from Samsung in the box are not that great.
I searched but can only find old information. This will be my first 3D set so I have no experience with 3D other than what I saw in theaters.
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