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post #2761 of 4157
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Originally Posted by BCook67 View Post

Hello all. I've noticed with my new Samsung PN51E7000 plasma that I have a perfectly clear image when there is little movement or few items on the screen, but in scenes where there is fast motion or large groups of people I get a very pixelated image. For instance, a car sitting still is perfectly clear, but as soon as it speeds up the entire image quality degrades significantly. My fiance and I also noticed the effect while watching Happy Feet 2 on Blu-Ray.......in a scene where there were two shrimp swimming the image was crystal clear, but as soon as there was a whole school of shrimp swimming the image became very pixelated and choppy. I've searched the forum and found no one else mentioning this issue, and also contacted Samsung's tech support (completely useless), so I'm turning to you guys to know if this is common for this particular TV, plasmas in general, etc. The TV is brand new and relatively large so I don't want to chance sending it for servicing if this is a normal issue, but I honestly don't know enough to make the call myself. It is the same issue using both the cable box or a high-end Samsung Blu-Ray player (both attached via HDMI). Thanks for any help you guys can give me.

I have the same TV as you and do not have this issue at all. Actually you should have the opposite of this occuring. One of the benefits of plasma is the speed rate for motion. It should be way better than LED/LCD. You have an issue with your TV for sure. No pixelation should occur.
post #2762 of 4157
I am in the 60 inch market and the pn60e6500 is looking darn tempting. I have concluded it has a slightly thicker bezel, a single core processor vs dual, and less "smartness" to it compared to the 7000/8000

I understand its video processing is not as good as the 7000/8000, but my question remains...

Will the 6500 output the same picture quality as the 7000 and 8000 series when fed a HD feed? does the video processing only come into play with SD sources? can anyone speculate on this, thanks
post #2763 of 4157
hey guys I am going to bb tommrow to return a led lg 7600 and I can't take the bleeding so am looking at plasmas, But after reading this forum it seems like u trade bleeding for buzzing and graining is this correct, I would hate to buy a plasma only to have more issues. Also I am looking at 3 tvs the gt st and the samsung 7000 any recomendations would be great ty
post #2764 of 4157
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Originally Posted by dacdd View Post

I am in the 60 inch market and the pn60e6500 is looking darn tempting. I have concluded it has a slightly thicker bezel, a single core processor vs dual, and less "smartness" to it compared to the 7000/8000
I understand its video processing is not as good as the 7000/8000, but my question remains...
Will the 6500 output the same picture quality as the 7000 and 8000 series when fed a HD feed? does the video processing only come into play with SD sources? can anyone speculate on this, thanks

my buddy has an 60e7000 (I own a 60e6500) and we both agree that we can't see a difference from HD cable and blu ray. We didn't look at SD content but I haven't watched non hd video on tv in probably 3 yrs.
post #2765 of 4157
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Originally Posted by mdsniper7 View Post

hey guys I am going to bb tommrow to return a led lg 7600 and I can't take the bleeding so am looking at plasmas, But after reading this forum it seems like u trade bleeding for buzzing and graining is this correct, I would hate to buy a plasma only to have more issues. Also I am looking at 3 tvs the gt st and the samsung 7000 any recomendations would be great ty

I have the 60 e7000, and mine does buzz, however many people don't have this issue. This tv imo it's perfect except for the buzzing which 90% of the time I don'tnotice or can tolerate. You could be one of the fortunate ones and get a quiet one. I purchased a 60 gt50 before this one, but returned it due to a dull, lackluster pq on non bluray content. it was silent, but pq was nowhere near as sharp as the Sammy. Just a warning, too many returns (5) and bestbuy cuts you off. I learnedt this the hard way.
post #2766 of 4157
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Originally Posted by mdsniper7 View Post

hey guys I am going to bb tommrow to return a led lg 7600 and I can't take the bleeding so am looking at plasmas, But after reading this forum it seems like u trade bleeding for buzzing and graining is this correct, I would hate to buy a plasma only to have more issues. Also I am looking at 3 tvs the gt st and the samsung 7000 any recomendations would be great ty

Been there, and still there.

Returned the 7600 because the bleeding was hilarious. Returned the EH6000 because the PQ was blah. Currently looking at the 60E7000(buzzing) and 60GT50(IR/inferior processing)
post #2767 of 4157
Anyone wana see a quick comparison of the Samsung e7000 against the sharp elite,I recorded them at the magnolia theater at best buy..go to YouTube and search sharp elite vs Samsung e7000 , user name checarlos956214....in my opinion, the e7000 looked so much better.not a fanboy , see for yourself
post #2768 of 4157
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Originally Posted by noppongk View Post

Same with me. I got the 2nd e7000 and it buzzed the same as the first one. You are right this TV is perfect except buzzing. I learned to live with it. It. This buzzing is very directional. I mean if you moved away vertically or horizontally by 10 inches from where you got the worst buzz, it is virtually rid of buzzing. That is what happened to me so I adjust the position of my TV a little higher and I heard no more buzz.

I couldn't tolerate the directional buzzing after going through 3 PN64E8000s with the exact same issue. Tilting it at a ridiculous angle upward so that the buzzing would go over our heads was only a temporary fix for me to cover the time until each replacement TV came. Fortunately, shortly after it was confirmed that the third had the same issue, the VT50s came out. Bought one of those and problem solved.
post #2769 of 4157
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Originally Posted by edgeh2o View Post

Been there, and still there.
Returned the 7600 because the bleeding was hilarious. Returned the EH6000 because the PQ was blah. Currently looking at the 60E7000(buzzing) and 60GT50(IR/inferior processing)


look at the Panny VT50




Warren
post #2770 of 4157
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

look at the Panny VT50
Warren

I've seen bad IR on that model too.
post #2771 of 4157
I've learned through buying several tv's, trying to find a perfect one without issues is impossible. they all have issues. it comes down to finding the one that looks the best. as I've posted before, imo the e7000 that I have is perfect, minus the buzzing which is tolerable or unnoticeable most of time.
post #2772 of 4157
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Originally Posted by cdub5 View Post

I've learned through buying several tv's, trying to find a perfect one without issues is impossible. they all have issues. it comes down to finding the one that looks the best. as I've posted before, imo the e7000 that I have is perfect, minus the buzzing which is tolerable or unnoticeable most of time.

I would say the exact same thing about my e7000.
post #2773 of 4157
Just bought the PN60E7000FF. Never owned a plasma before, but know about potential IR. Should I prep this in any way? If this has already been discussed, please point me in the right direction. Thank you.
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I don't know much about the geek squad warranty, but I got the 5 year warranty for a 52" Samsung lnt5271f that I bought from onecall.com in dec 2007. The tv required 3 repairs, 2of which were new panels. After the 3rd repair the tv failed again after 2 hours so the warranty company offered to replace it with a new pn60e8000 which I jump at. It s being delivered tommorrow.
post #2775 of 4157
Spent the last 4 hours going over the same threads and review sites for the Panny 60GT50 and Sammy 60E7000 that I've done for the past few weeks, stuck on not making a decision.

After having to return 2 large LED's to BB already, I'm so over having to return. Although I feel like I saw somewhere they will pickup returns if the TV is over 46" but now I can't find that info anywhere.

Anyways, seems like the cons for Sammy are buzzing, line bleed, lighter blacks compared to Panny, and the hockey brightness thing. I don't watch hockey, the blacks will still probably be blacker than anything I've had before, line bleed doesn't seem to be reported that much (right?), so it all comes down to buzzing.

Pros over GT50, better video processing for Uverse's crappy HD signals, not as many reports of banding, and seems like there is no IR.

Since I'll be using it as a PC monitor 37% of the time, my biggest worry is IR. Since I'll watch Uverse about 41% of the time, I want whatever will help make it look the best.

So... I'm just thinking back to that Samsung 60E7000 vs Panasonic ST50 thread where the OP, along with a few repliers, stated the E7000 blacks were very poor compared to the Panasonic. I wish I could erase my memory of viewing that thread, because it seems like that, along with the buzzing, is holding me back. It's just weird since other review sites say they are comparable.

But what are my other options... dealing with IR of the Panny, or downgrading to a 55" Sony HX850 or waiting for a 2013 plasma, no spanks.

That's all I got. No real purpose to this comment, just thinking out loud, since I can't sleep.
post #2776 of 4157
Always take reports you see online with a grain of salt, if possible go and see the sets for yourself and have your eyes be the judge.....There will always be drawbacks regarldes of which set you pic, there are those on both sides who have no issues and those who have had tons of issues.....If you are viewing non Blu-ray\1080p content a majority of the time, then I would lean towards the Samsung for its processing, the GT50 is a fine TV as well and you cant go wrong, although you MAY see more "noise" with lower res content. Just like you MAy notice the difference in blacks between the sets. In the end if your happy with the TV, it doesnt matter what its ratings\specs are smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Always take reports you see online with a grain of salt, if possible go and see the sets for yourself and have your eyes be the judge.....There will always be drawbacks regarldes of which set you pic, there are those on both sides who have no issues and those who have had tons of issues.....If you are viewing non Blu-ray\1080p content a majority of the time, then I would lean towards the Samsung for its processing, the GT50 is a fine TV as well and you cant go wrong, although you MAY see more "noise" with lower res content. Just like you MAy notice the difference in blacks between the sets. In the end if your happy with the TV, it doesnt matter what its ratings\specs are smile.gif

I couldn't agree more the importance of seeing the displays in person. I don't think I would sleep well dropping that kind of coin based on word of mouth only. I'd go so far as to say it's an error in judgement buying a TV without giving it a test drive. But that's me.
post #2778 of 4157
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Originally Posted by Ph8te View Post

Always take reports you see online with a grain of salt, if possible go and see the sets for yourself and have your eyes be the judge....

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Originally Posted by iBoB View Post

I couldn't agree more the importance of seeing the displays in person.

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Go somewhere that has them side by side and with the same programming and look for yourself. In your case, yours are the only eyes that matter.

I sell TVs and see both the PN60E7000 and the TC-P60ST50 side by side every day (sorry, not a GT). Although the lighting in our store is nowhere near ideal for critical comparison, there is a difference between them. I have gone as far as having two thumb drives with the identical 1080P 60fps files. The ST has definitely got a 'blacker black' when the TVs are in comparable picture modes at default levels. It also appears a little grainy at times. The 7000 has richer color and I think a little better details. One thing struck me, however, is that you state that you're going to use it as a computer monitor. I have not noticed IR or burn-in on either of them (and the 7000 typically has a banner on it). I haven't heard of any problems with the 7000 but I have heard of problems with the ST and GT. The fact that you will be using it as a monitor and possibly having static images on it for extended periods would scare me on the Panasonic as I too have heard of them having IR and burn-in problems.
post #2779 of 4157
Receiving a 60e7000 tomorrow from BestBuy after more then a week and half delay because of Sandy.

After reading much of this forum I am for some reason very nervous.

After so much time and so many posts, could you guys contribute in sum the accumulated wisdom and experience of those here as to the do's and don'ts for a new owner?

About picture settings, I see reference to the settings at Cnet but searching there I only see settings for the e8000. Are they applicable to the 7000? Has there been any agreement here on the best settings?

Thanks
post #2780 of 4157
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Originally Posted by Opinionated View Post

Receiving a 60e7000 tomorrow from BestBuy after more then a week and half delay because of Sandy.
After reading much of this forum I am for some reason very nervous.
After so much time and so many posts, could you guys contribute in sum the accumulated wisdom and experience of those here as to the do's and don'ts for a new owner?
About picture settings, I see reference to the settings at Cnet but searching there I only see settings for the e8000. Are they applicable to the 7000? Has there been any agreement here on the best settings?
Thanks

1 stop reading the forums if youg et nervous of problem reports
2. DO watch your TV
3. Do NOT throw hard objects at it
4. Do NOT leave static images on the TV for hours on end
5. Sit back and relax and enjoy your new TV
6. Google is your friend, a quick search turned up the e7000 review 2nd page of the review on Cnet had the link:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-565093/samsung-pn60e6500-picture-settings/
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Those settings are for the 6500.
post #2782 of 4157
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Originally Posted by Opinionated View Post

Those settings are for the 6500.

Youa re correct I apologize.....The E7000 and the E6500 share the same screen, the difference being teh Dual core processor and a few other things.....You could probably start with either the E8000 or the E6500 settings and be ok...Or do a search in this thread for "settings" and use someone who has posted thiers.....Eachwill need tweaking msot likely for your individual set AND personal tastes...
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No, the E7000 shares a screen with the E8000. The 6500 is not the same.
post #2784 of 4157
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Originally Posted by Reach View Post

No, the E7000 shares a screen with the E8000. The 6500 is not the same.

All 3 have the Real Black Pro Panel....The differences from what I have read are the 6500 lacks the dual core processor that the E7000 and the E8000 have and the E8000 includes the extra premium features that the other two models lack.......

If you can point me to where it shows the screens are different please do, every review I have read put all 3 with the same screen......
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Pulled the trigger on a 64E7000 - it will be installed (artiiculating arm wall mount) Monday. After several viewings, I saw no advantage to the 8000 and I liked both better than the VT50 (better detail). Replacing a 2006 Mits DLP (I also have a Kuro in another room). I will view both Warm1 and Warm 2 for starters but I would rather be slightly cool than too warm. Calibration in MId-Dec (by then I should have 100 hrs).
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I've been reading all the Samsung Spider Cracks posts... has anyone heard of any E7000, or any 2012 Samsung plasma for that matter, succumbing to the Spider Cracks that seems to have plagued previous Sammy plasmas?
post #2787 of 4157
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Originally Posted by Trackman View Post

Pulled the trigger on a 64E7000 - it will be installed (artiiculating arm wall mount) Monday. After several viewings, I saw no advantage to the 8000 and I liked both better than the VT50 (better detail). Replacing a 2006 Mits DLP (I also have a Kuro in another room). I will view both Warm1 and Warm 2 for starters but I would rather be slightly cool than too warm. Calibration in MId-Dec (by then I should have 100 hrs).
I felt the same when comparing with ST50. That's why I chose E7000 instead due to its better detail even its less inky black. Some will say though that black level is the most important when choosing TV. How is it your E7000 comparing with KURO you had in terms of black level and detail?
post #2788 of 4157
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Originally Posted by noppongk View Post

I felt the same when comparing with ST50. That's why I chose E7000 instead due to its better detail even its less inky black. Some will say though that black level is the most important when choosing TV. How is it your E7000 comparing with KURO you had in terms of black level and detail?

Black level is indeed very important in a darkened room. But the E7000 will se a fair amount of weekend day and summer evening duty, where the small difference in black levels is harder to detect. I also got the 7000 for its ascribed superiority in 3D (now that movie worth seeing in 3D are coming out). The Kuro will remain the primary 2D nightime tv. I can't compare them yet because I don't have the E7000 yet (Monday) and the Kuro is ISF'd (December for the E7000). One both are calibrated, I'll post the respective measurements.
post #2789 of 4157
Just a quick reminder,the e7000 will be a totally different tv after 700 hrs, pic quality is sooo much better than when new
post #2790 of 4157
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Originally Posted by Cev214 View Post

Just a quick reminder,the e7000 will be a totally different tv after 700 hrs, pic quality is sooo much better than when new

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