Official Samsung PNXXE7000 - PNXXE8000 owners thread - Page 109

Well - I guess people who thought that the "Evolution Kit" slot would never have anything to plug into it were wrong!!!

I just wish it would fit into my PN59D8000!!!

http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/news/a448263/evolution-kit-upgrades-existing-samsung-smart-tvs.html

Thanks. Now just watch the pessimists/Debbie downers jump in and trash this news before its even released.

Thanks but it bothers me that the only picture options are Standard and Entertain. Also do you guys use your same calibrated settings when gaming?

I don't game on my tv but I wouldn't if I did. My calibration for movies just wouldn't have enough punch and brightness to it. Movie mode and warm 2 setting just don't seem compatible with gaming... just my unverified opinion of course.

A little more info here (and this topic is almost worthy of its own thread):

http://reviews.cnet.com/tvs/vg-sek1000-smart-evolution/4505-6475_7-35560465.html

Between $200-300 seems a little high priced. I guess you get a new UI for the interface, but that should be available via firmware. Software/firmware should be improvable without requiring a $200-$300 piece of hardware (that's nearly the cost of a Mac Mini). Or a new receiver, or a fancy Oppo….

Not being a debbie downer, but after playing with several of the apps. It doesn't appear they're really geared towards Plasma owners. Many of those apps are IR bombs. I posted about Pandora further up the thread. Anyone here dare to use the Pandora app for a couple of hours on their Samsung Plasma Smart TV (or Panasonic for that matter)? C'mon. I dare you.

And all of those ESPN apps are just begging to cause trouble as well just sitting there on the side of the screen. Why can't they offer an option to make them semi transparent?

If the evolution kit/new UI gave me the option to adjust transparency levels or apply screensavers to a lot of the apps, I might actually think about dropping a couple of hundred on it. But if it's just going to let me use the 'Smart" interface 'faster' and give me IR quicker, than I don't think it's that interesting of a proposition.

All my own curmudgeony personal opinion of course.

I believe I read that there is a "picture off" setting in the ECO Solution section of the menu. Why not turn the picture off while listening to Pandora? Doesn't allow you to see the info about what's playing, but no concern about IR :-)

I might agree if we actually knew much about the kit. Will it improve picture quality? The only smart hub features I use are the occasional Netflix, Vudu and DLNA. For me the cost/features must overcome the hassle of taking the TV off of the wall
Watch this be the hardware that solves the buzzing some folks report

Edward Hall that is good info. Thanks for the tip. Surprised there isn't a setting somewhere for that. I'll have to give it a try. I'm curious what the screensaver shows. I've been very impressed with the lack of IR on my 51e7000 as well. Never sure if its because I'm careful or its just a great TV.

LTE - nice option I guess. May as well just run the scrolling IR fixer while I'm there. BTW, I watched two 2.xx:1 movies in a row yesterday. No problems. 5% seems a little low.

Ferl - agreed. It will be interesting to see what it offers. Definitely something to let others experiment with and find all the bugs in first. I'm a Rev. 2 guy when it comes to that sort of thing. It might be a buzz amplifier. For those of us that have been missing out.

I've had the PN51E8000 since may and I game,watch Bluray etc. on the factory settings Dynamic mode (I'm not techie).

Thanks enabling 1080p24 and cinema smooth removed all the ghosting!

To answer your question i think my 3d movies are HSBS and i can only watch blu rays on the computer.

I don't suppose theres any way to save your picture settings on the E7000? Every time i switch to game mode so i dont get input lag it resets my movie settings. Really irritating having to redo that especially the 10 point white balance settings. Seems pretty crazy and a terrible oversight not to be able to save settings.

How do you clean your plasma screen? I got a smudge on the screen and would like to be careful getting it off.

I figured I would use a dry microfiber cloth (one came with the set) first, but if that doesn't work, can I use the iKlear solution that I have for my Apple products? It says it can be used on Apple and other brand electronic products including LCD, plasma and DLP screens and that it is anti-static and does not contain alcohol, ammonia or sodium laurel sulfate. I assume this is safe, but again, thought I would check.

I would use a slightly damp microfiber cloth using distiled water -- the kind sold in super markets for steam irons. Then I would follow that with a clean dry microfiber cloth. If your display has any kind of coating on it's external surface, a chemical solution could damage that coating.

Avoid scrubbing of any kind.

I got it set on movie mode with all my settings. When i switch to game mode it switches from movie to standard setting. After I switch back to movie mode my settings are reset.

Thanks Icon13 I will give the flicker test a try as I do have the new resident evil in 3D. Let me know what your take is on this old thread linked below, there is some discussion of CS on 3d mode possibily not having the 3:2 pulldown. And if it is to believe that not everyone sees the flicker I guess depending on your eyes or something I really don't know the science behind it that 96hz might actually be better then 120hz. Maybe Icon13 or Anyone else care to chime or test if this might be true that the picture looks smoother with no judder on 3d with CS enabled.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=188604


Another thing I'm real curious about if there is any flat panel 3d tv that can do 144hz or 192 hz for 3d besides projectors available today? Which should provide 72fps/96fps per eye and give the true 3d cinema smoothness we all crave for. . I wonder if the evolution kit coming to our tv could ever upgrade our sets to have this ability? My feeling is probably no as its like asking if the kit can give us 4k resolution. Which we all know would require a new panel.

The link below is a interesting article that discusses the many different 3-D Digital Cinema technologies in use today
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=4645896&postcount=972

Thanks. It seems to have worked OK without liquid, but will remember the distilled water for the future.

I have an older 5.1 stereo receiver that doesn't have HDMI in or out, so I connected the TV to it using the TV's optical out. I get sound through the receiver when watching a TV program (via a satellite box that is standard def and is hooked up through the AV/composite inputs on the TV), but I got no sound when trying to watch a You Tube video. I understood that I would only get 5.1 surround if there was an HD broadcast received through the TV tuner, but I thought I should otherwise be able to get stereo. Is there anything special I need to do that you can think I may not be doing?

That's always the first choice.

Samsung talked about the Evolution Kit today at CES.

Looks very interesting! Very early in this thread people were rather negative about this particular feature of the TV (ie: thinking that it would not be used and was nothing more than a gimick).

I'm not sure that I buy the whole "you can only have the new interface if you have our super-quad core processor" line, but it seems like a big enough step forward to justify buying one.

My only questions at this point is: Where/when/how can I buy one?

Details are still rather light on the kit itself. The Samsung exec installed it in a matter of seconds, without tools, so it must be pretty easy to do. It has a quad-core CPU that is supposedly 3x faster than the original. They say it will provide all the features of the 2013 display panels. I'm assuming that it has no effect on picture quality, but I don't know how much of the picture quality is controlled by the software/firmware vs. the panel itself.

To be honest, I'd probably buy the thing just to get away from the current kludgy interface. I truly despise the 2012 SmartHub interface. The 2013 one looks pretty nice, though -- or at least a ton more functionally useful.

EDIT: There are some up-close pictures of the Evolution Kit @ Engadget. Also screenshots of the updated interface.

http://www.engadget.com/gallery/samsung-2013-lcds-plasmas-apps-upgrade-box/5543555/
Edited by deria - 1/7/13 at 3:13pm

Different subject, but I certainly like some of the new stands they introduced today. Not much info on new plasmas though.

RE: the evolution kit. I don't know, personally, if it all it provides is a newUI to browse the crappy selection of apps with faster, quad core CPUs I think I'll pass. It's a neat idea, but I think I've deleted just about every app I've downloaded and tried. I was really thinking having a Smart TV would be cool. But those apps are just awful. I don't see a need, personally, to browse them any faster. Maybe if they get some good useful apps. Otherwise, I don't think I need a quicker way to download them, realize they are junk and delete them.

The family story thing is lame (I bet no one really uses it, why would you?) and the Fitness thing just downloads some crappy standard def videos from the App Store. The kids sections is nothing more than a portal for a weird '"Canimals" cartoon from South Korea.

Most of the Apps in general seem very Korean based in nature (nothing wrong with that). Reading the Broken Engrish descriptions is funny though. For the Word World one of them says something like "Help to learn the English". Lame.

For now I'll just stick to using my iPad as a second screen and wait for the 'Smart TV's to advance a little.

Anyone have any apps they really use on a regular basis on their TV? Maybe I missed one?

Disappointed curmudgeon over and out.

I use the Netflix app, and I've used the media player app to play movies recorded on my camera. I've also used the web browser to get to the on-demand sections of my local TV stations. The AP news ticker is an interesting idea, as well, though I don't use it much (news is depressing). The Skype app works well -- (ie: does what you would expect).

Samsung (and all the other TV manufacturers) had a decision to make and instead of making the smart decision (Android, Google Play) they instead made the decision to go their own way and have a proprietary app store.

I guess it comes down to what you expect, though -- I don't care about playing Angry Birds on my TV. I view the app-section as a way for me to get certain key applications that will improve my experience. The rest is as useless to me.

Supposedly the new portal has cross-app searching for the video services, and THAT is an app I would very much like to see since you quite often have to sign up for multiple services to get the content you want.

I use the YouTube app occasionally as well as HBOGO, Netflix and VUDU. Yesterday I signed up for the 1 week free trial of Hulu plus. I canceled it a few hours later. I can't imagine anyone paying $8 a month for limited content and still have commercials. The Explore 3D app had promise, but they don't seem to add content.
I don't use Skype, but for folks that use the service I think it would be nice having the call displayed on a large screen.
I do use te DLNA feature of the TV frequently.

I agree the apps are pretty lame and the voice and motion control are silly. It's as ridiculous as Siri.

I use Amazon Prime. Don't have Netflix as it would be kind of redundant with AP. Don't feel like spending $8 a month for the Hulu Plus either. Most shows are On Demand. HBO Go and Comcast can't work out whatever it is they need to work out.

Maybe if I cancelled my Comcast, got an HDTV antenna and went alacarte with the Hulu - but I haven't been able to convince my wife that's a good way to go….

I use Crackle sometimes.

We pretty much just stick to the Media based apps that come standard. None of the downloadable ones seem to offer very much value.

Oh well, it's got an Awesome PQ and that's what I really wanted anyhow.

The new Panny's got a HSN button on the remote. Lucky them!

Seriously? I knew I should have bought a Panasonic

The samsung rep at the hdtv shootout said that with the new processesor the evolution kit has, it can make the picture look smoother...