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Originally Posted by MNaudioguy View Post

So your saying jump on it? smile.gif Who do people recommend for online dealers? Crutchfield, amazon, etc? They all seem to be about the same price

Um..... YES. It might drop a little more when new models are available but this is a great price. Get it at best buy. They price match Amazon on everything now and it's easier to return to them than online if there are any issues. Wish i was patient enough to wait for superbowl/new model release prices. This TV is the best
post #3422 of 4279
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Originally Posted by cdub5 View Post

Um..... YES. It might drop a little more when new models are available but this is a great price. Get it at best buy. They price match Amazon on everything now and it's easier to return to them than online if there are any issues. Wish i was patient enough to wait for superbowl/new model release prices. This TV is the best
thats not true Amazon has a great return policy free shipping and no tax
post #3423 of 4279
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

I was just reading that Philips apparently had a model that had the built in bias lighting but no longer available in the US...so it has been done but maybe not enough people appreciate the use to buy. Depends on how far from the wall and what you can do but there's a variety of ways to do it. I saw one guy just bought rope lights to suit.


funny how technical some can be, then lighting is such a challenge! wink.gif try simple command clips on back corners of tv with cheap led xmas light string..... SIMPLE, CHEAP!!!
i particularly love these...
http://www.elementalled.com/celebright-led-holiday-christmas-lights.html
very easy to work with cuz they are on wire. looks like right now they are temporarily out of stock in white, worth the wait tho!!
Edited by ljmart - 2/3/13 at 1:02pm
post #3424 of 4279
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Originally Posted by SiGGy View Post

The only thing I'd like to add here is the brightness levels claimed are confusing and should be taken with a grain of salt..

Plasmas use dynamic drive systems and different size full white patterns will read different. So one calibrator/reviewer might use 10% sized patterns while another uses 1%. These will produce different numbers even though they are both the same peak white.

Then to make matters even more confusing. You can't cross compare. A vt50 calibrated to 30fl with 10% patterns will appear dimmer than a e8000 calibrated to 30fl using the same patterns. Why you might ask? It's due to the programming of the ABL and the dynamic drive systems. All of the manufacturers are different. Thus cross comparing is a bit more difficult than it might seem. Now if plasmas were actually very accurate with gamma across a wide range of APL this wouldn't be an issue, but they're not.

So when looking at these things from fellow board members or professionals... if the max brightness on a plasma is stated and they don't say what size pattern was used the data is almost worthless. As you can't compare it to other measurements without knowing this.

Thanks very much for inputting your knowledge and experience on both TVs, which I know you have owned. That said, I know you were looking for an LCD. Knowing you were looking for an LCD, I was somewhat surprised that you were interested in the Samsung ES8000. I would have thought the HX850 or the HX950 would have been of more interest to you, the former an edge lit LED but some limited local dimming or the HX950 with full array local dimming. However, I believed you had 64/65" plasmas and I know that the HX850 does not go bigger than 55". And I believe that the 65" HX950 very often has lousy uniformity. Forget about a vertical band or two on the right with quite a few of the Panasonic plasmas. Some of the images of the 65" for uniformity look downright awful.
post #3425 of 4279
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Originally Posted by bargervais View Post

thats not true Amazon has a great return policy free shipping and no tax

It is true that Amazon is great with returns, my personal opinion is that it's easier to return to a local store than deal with shipping. Also, unfortunately for us Californian'we now pay tax on Amazon purchases
post #3426 of 4279
So, tried to use web browser to stream some video content and it said it needs flash player. Is there a way of installing latest acrobat version into the tv for the numerous websites that us flash?
post #3427 of 4279
Just picked up the PN64E7000 and have a couple of questions:

1) I configured the display settings using calibrations I found online, which modified the Movie Mode. Is there any way to save those? As soon as I switched to dynamic and then back, all of the customizations were gone

2) Is there an HDMI Audio Out option? I purchased the matching Samsung E450 Soundbar, and I want to use ARC to get everything to sync properly. I'm using optical currently, but I'd like to know my other options

3) Anyone had any luck getting third party bluetooth keyboards to work with this? I have a Logitech Revue bluetooth keyboard that I'd like to repurpose for use with this.
post #3428 of 4279
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Originally Posted by boondongle View Post

Well, you may want to try some sort of HDTV Antenna (for free channels) and just use the Basic Direct TV for channels you don't get.

You can get a decent indoor HD TV antenna for less than $50 more or less depending on your location and distance to channels.

http://hdtv-antenna-review.toptenreviews.com

tvfool.com

I'd skip all of the cell light at 5, contrast at 38 etc. You're not really accomplishing anything that watching normal TV etc. wouldn't accomplish. Might even be aging slower since the phosphors are barely being pushed.

I've got Amazon Prime. Works fine. Similar to Netflix. Never had Hulu.

Good luck. We're all counting on you. smile.gif
There is no such thing as an HD antenna. It is just a marketing scheme. Any cheap bunny ear antenna will do just fine.
post #3429 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Icon13 View Post

There is no such thing as an HD antenna. It is just a marketing scheme. Any cheap bunny ear antenna will do just fine.

http://www.fcc.gov/guides/antennas-and-digital-television
post #3430 of 4279
Anybody else not able to do the updates via online anymore?

About 4 updates back mine wouldn't find any new updates using the online method through the TV menu even though I knew a new one was available. Ever since then it won't find any new updates every time I try to scan for one instead I have to use the USB method.

Just wondering if anybody else has the same problem?
post #3431 of 4279
My set still finds the updates. Haven't done the last one yet. I usually wait a bit and see if anyone reports issues.
post #3432 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Bigchingan View Post

Just picked up the PN64E7000 and have a couple of questions:

1) I configured the display settings using calibrations I found online, which modified the Movie Mode. Is there any way to save those? As soon as I switched to dynamic and then back, all of the customizations were gone

2) Is there an HDMI Audio Out option? I purchased the matching Samsung E450 Soundbar, and I want to use ARC to get everything to sync properly. I'm using optical currently, but I'd like to know my other options

3) Anyone had any luck getting third party bluetooth keyboards to work with this? I have a Logitech Revue bluetooth keyboard that I'd like to repurpose for use with this.

1) The settings should stick. The settings you want must be applied to each input. If you're changing inputs when you go to dynamic, it not reflect the settings you made to movie mode on a different input.

2) The only HDMI output of the TV is HDMI 2. The other HDMI ports on the TV do not support ARC.

3) Some have.
post #3433 of 4279
So my Samsung PN60E7000 is to be delivered this week. I am excited since it is:

- my first plasma tv
- my first 3D tv

This unit will be connected to a Panasonic dmp-bdt220 3d blu-ray player - Onkyo HT-RC160 receiver, and over-the-air local channels from my $80 antenna.

I used to connect the hdmi cable through the receiver-->TV, but I guess this time around, I will have to connect the hdmi from the player to the plasma TV directly since I am not sure if my Receiver can pass-through the 3d signals. I will use optical cable for audio.

Already got 7-8 blu-ray 3d movies, so can't wait.

Please share any tips/suggestions/advices and I really appreciate.
Thanks
hskb
post #3434 of 4279
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Originally Posted by hskb View Post


I used to connect the hdmi cable through the receiver-->TV, but I guess this time around, I will have to connect the hdmi from the player to the plasma TV directly since I am not sure if my Receiver can pass-through the 3d signals. I will use optical cable for audio.

When using an optical cable to the receiver, the TV will output 5.1 if the TV is the source. If you connect a Bluray player to the TV, the optical cable will only output a 2 channel signal to the receiver. You can download a manual from the Samsung website if you're interested. Also, if you register the TV on the website it extends your warranty for 3 months.
post #3435 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

1) The settings should stick. The settings you want must be applied to each input. If you're changing inputs when you go to dynamic, it not reflect the settings you made to movie mode on a different input.

2) The only HDMI output of the TV is HDMI 2. The other HDMI ports on the TV do not support ARC.

3) Some have.

Thank you for the answers. Expanding on number 1, is there a way I can just create a custom setting from scratch, so I can leave the four presets untouched? One thing I've found with this TV is it doesn't appear to be as bright as my 2007 era Panasonic Plasma 50"..
post #3436 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

When using an optical cable to the receiver, the TV will output 5.1 if the TV is the source. If you connect a Bluray player to the TV, the optical cable will only output a 2 channel signal to the receiver. You can download a manual from the Samsung website if you're interested. Also, if you register the TV on the website it extends your warranty for 3 months.

Thank Ferl, especially on the warranty info.
for the optical, I connect the optical from blu ray player directly to the receiver, so I still get the dd 5.1 (i usually use netflix on my player). However, you brought a very valid point, i should consider using netflix directly from the this 'smart' tv with the optical output from tv to receiver to eliminate the middle man (player). I will check if my HT-RC160 Receiver accept 2 optical inputs.
Thanks again

PS: just checked and the ht-rc160 has 2 optical inputs.
Edited by hskb - 2/4/13 at 12:03pm
post #3437 of 4279
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Originally Posted by hskb View Post

Thank Ferl, especially on the warranty info.
for the optical, I connect the optical from blu ray player directly to the receiver, so I still get the dd 5.1 (i usually use netflix on my player). However, you brought a very valid point, i should consider using netflix directly from the this 'smart' tv with the optical output from tv to receiver to eliminate the middle man (player). I will check if my HT-RC160 Receiver accept 2 optical inputs.
Thanks again

PS: just checked and the ht-rc160 has 2 optical inputs.

Connections
• 5 HDMI*4 Inputs and 1 Output
• Onkyo for System Control
• 4 Digital Inputs (2 Optical / 2 Coaxial)
• Component Video Switching (2 Inputs/1 Output)
• Front “Portable” Input for iPod and MP3 Players
• Universal Port for the Dock for the iPod/HD Radio™*5
Dock
• Dual Subwoofer Pre Out
• Banana Plug-Compatible Speaker Posts
• Powered Zone 2 and Zone 2 Line Out
• Bi-Amp Capability for Music and Movie Sound
Effects

FYI, here is te forum thread for your receiver http://www.avsforum.com/t/1167219/the-official-onkyo-ht-rc160-thread/720#post_22565683
On the last page a member reports that it does not support 3D.
post #3438 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Bigchingan View Post

Thank you for the answers. Expanding on number 1, is there a way I can just create a custom setting from scratch, so I can leave the four presets untouched? One thing I've found with this TV is it doesn't appear to be as bright as my 2007 era Panasonic Plasma 50"..

Not easily that I know of. You can easily reset any presets to default though if you change them. I think I read once that custom settings such as "cal-day" and "cal-night", like the C series, can be activated via the service menu, but messing around in the service menu could be disastrous.
post #3439 of 4279
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Originally Posted by cdub5 View Post

It is true that Amazon is great with returns, my personal opinion is that it's easier to return to a local store than deal with shipping. Also, unfortunately for us Californian'we now pay tax on Amazon purchases

YES The state of Florida is trying to pass the same but for now we don't have to pay tax
post #3440 of 4279
Anyone know of an HDMI cable with a 90 degree swivel head like the one Samsung sells for $49.99?



And not a 90 Degree like this:



http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-15-ft-HDMI-Swivel-Cable-High-Speed-Ethernet-Male-to-Male.asp?gclid=CNiakc7wnbUCFVSSPAod1kwAGQ

I've found them here for ~$22 but that still seems high for a 2 meter cable.

http://www.datavis.com/cgi-bin/product.cgi?prrfnbr=624725

The way the e7000 is designed the cables hang a hard south on the side of the TV and it seems like a lot of pressure being exerted downward. I have to move cables around sometimes (AVR is HDMI 1.3 and not 3D compliant) and I'm sure those connectors are only soldered on there to take so much pressure. Don't want to crack a connection.

Just wondering. Thanks

Edited with additional pictures for clarity.
Edited by boondongle - 2/4/13 at 4:40pm
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post #3442 of 4279
Thanks Larry but those are different than what I'm looking for. I've used Monoprice cables before so that was the first place I looked.

Those adapters you linked to are like the Sewell one - and don't suit the purpose of what I'm looking for. Lots of 90 degree angles but none that put the 90 degree 'sideways'. If that makes sense. See which way the Samsung one turns the cable compared to the way the others do it?

Suppose I could/should have posted this in a different forum section but since our Samsungs have the HDMIs in a bit of a weird placement, I thought I would ask here.

I've edited my original post for clarity.

BTW, I've seen some websites selling them in lots of 10 direct from China. So went to ebay and found a few there. Just thinking that perhaps this would only work with the bottom connector since if you have them aiming down immediately after the connection, you'd be blocking the next HDMI port.

I'm gonna go be quiet and surf the web now.

Thanks,

The Village Idiot
Edited by boondongle - 2/4/13 at 4:44pm
post #3443 of 4279
Someone posted in another thread that they thought the black levels on their E8000 had been improved by the latest firmware. Can anyone in here corroborate that? I'm tossing up whether to go for an E8000 or wait for the F8500 and obviously improved contrast performance on the E8000 might make that decision easier, but I don't really see how a firmware update could change a panel characteristic like black level.
post #3444 of 4279
Boondongle,

This one lets you connect vertically instead of horizontally.



Larry
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E6500 already has its own thread no need to add it to this one...
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this one tilts and swivels... not exactly like samsung and you probably already saw it, but just in case!

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041913&p_id=7702&seq=1&format=2
Edited by ljmart - 2/4/13 at 6:38pm
post #3447 of 4279
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Originally Posted by ferl View Post

1) The settings should stick. The settings you want must be applied to each input. If you're changing inputs when you go to dynamic, it not reflect the settings you made to movie mode on a different input.

2) The only HDMI output of the TV is HDMI 2. The other HDMI ports on the TV do not support ARC.

3) Some have.
1) His TV could be in store demo mode. In which case, holding the exit button for 15 seconds will perform a factory reset. Choose home mode from initial setup upon restart. This will enable your changes to be saved.
post #3448 of 4279
just a quick THANK YOU to all in this forum for all the great info. helped me tremendously in making an AWESOME choice in the purchase of the pn51e7000!!! ordered from crutchfield online sight unseen. (prices just went back up from $999 to now 1,399!) never had a plasma before and this tv is incredible! so, for those on the fence.... jump over:D. i was a bit skeptical from some of the negative posts and hoped they were probably a minority. a week in and all is fantastic! no major buzzing, and i have bionic hearing;). beautiful crisp picture quality, rich vibrant colors, easy and fast youtube.... (only thing i messed around with briefly so far) should be stunning after break in settings can be re-adjusted. imo the best tv for the $$$...... the only negative i've found would be the internal speakers, though i didn't expect anything too great in that area. at around level 13 and above, they tend to vibrate and rattle something internal. any ideas of decent inexpensive basic external source would be appreciated! again, thanks to all for your time and info!
lisa
Edited by ljmart - 2/5/13 at 12:36am
post #3449 of 4279
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Originally Posted by Jruc03 View Post

Anybody else not able to do the updates via online anymore?

About 4 updates back mine wouldn't find any new updates using the online method through the TV menu even though I knew a new one was available. Ever since then it won't find any new updates every time I try to scan for one instead I have to use the USB method.

Just wondering if anybody else has the same problem?
just the last update i got a message just as it got to 97% saying something like update is not ready yet so i downloaded it to a thumb drive and updated it that way
post #3450 of 4279
Does anyone have any specs as far as the improvement in black level between the E series and the D series? I had a D7000 and I wasn't that impressed with the black level. Other than that, I thought it looked great. I understand that the Cinema Smooth black level increase is no longer an issue on the E series, and that Samsung claims an overall black level that is 10% better than the D series.

Does anyone have any real life experience with an A-B comparison of the two, or any meter readings? Or a comparison to a GT50?
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