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post #3841 of 4279
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Originally Posted by TV4Sooner View Post

Getting a new TV. My Samsung PN50B650 purchased in Feb. '10 started getting horizontal lines about 2 years after (I have 12 lines now, nearly unwatchable). LINK Very disappointed in Samsung, but I do love plasmas.

Question is, I've seen in some reviews, such as CNET, that the 6500 has some issues with 3D:
I'm looking at possibly purchasing the E7000. Is cross-talk an issue for the E7000 too?

I'm also seriously considering the new ST60, but can't decide. Would be about $100 more. (part of me really wants to buy a Panny because of my recent experience with Samsung)

While I thought the E7000 was a nice set, I swapped it once I saw the ST-60 at Best Buy. If you can swing the $100 I will almost guarantee you will be very impressed. I was very happy I did.

Good luck with your decision.
post #3842 of 4279
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Originally Posted by fajitamosaic View Post

Just offhand, possibly reduce sharpness. If I recall, default on some settings is between 30-50. That will emphasize jagged edges. Cut it in half (or set to 0) and see if that helps. Also, Digital NR and MPEG NR may be set to on. You may want to turn them off or try a less aggressive setting.

I will give it a try, thanks.
post #3843 of 4279
While watching my several week old E7000 tonight, I noticed a box pop up in the upper right hand corner that says "Updating".

Didnt think much of it at first, but it has now been "updating" for about 30 minutes. When I first set up the unit, I downloaded the latest update and it only took a couple of minutes so I cant imagine what could be taking this long.

Any ideas?

Dont want to turn the TV off if it an "update" really is occurring but I dont want it to stay up there all night and risk IR.
Edited by BillyMc - 3/28/13 at 6:35pm
post #3844 of 4279
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Originally Posted by BillyMc View Post

While watching my several week old E7000 tonight, I noticed a box pop up in the upper right hand corner that says "Updating".

Didnt think much of it at first, but it has now been "updating" for about 30 minutes. When I first set up the unit, I downloaded the latest update and it only took a couple of minutes so I cant imagine what could be taking this long.

Any ideas?

Dont want to turn the TV off if it an "update" really is occurring but I dont want it to stay up there all night and risk IR.

I just updated to 1047 but I had to use a thumb drive
post #3845 of 4279
Was clicking around on the remote and many buttons (Volume, Tools, etc) wouldnt work.

Eventually pulled up the "Source" menu, then exited and the "Updating" box was gone.

Who knows.
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Originally Posted by BillyMc View Post

While watching my several week old E7000 tonight, I noticed a box pop up in the upper right hand corner that says "Updating".

Didnt think much of it at first, but it has now been "updating" for about 30 minutes. When I first set up the unit, I downloaded the latest update and it only took a couple of minutes so I cant imagine what could be taking this long.

Any ideas?

Dont want to turn the TV off if it an "update" really is occurring but I dont want it to stay up there all night and risk IR.

I got the "Updating" box as well, but it only lasted a minute or so. Just checked the SW version and it's now at 1047. It was at 1046.2 a couple of days ago. Differences in update time are likely due to connection speed or how busy the Samsung server is.
Edited by abalone - 3/29/13 at 6:14am
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My PN51E8000 updated aswell. It only lasted for about a minute.
post #3848 of 4279
Noisy Picture?

Getting PN51E7000 next week and currently own a C7000 (love it). I'm posting this as I want to know if I should expect the same for my E7000 when I get it. I see noise (random shutting off of pixels) in my C7000 and wondered if I should expect that from my E7000 as well. Common to all plasmas?

My C7000 is out of warranty and it really doesn't bother me, you can only see it very close up.
Independent of source, I've tried all HDMI inputs, DVR/Blue-Ray/Cable/USB media all at 1080.

I've linked two videos of it and a still from the Monster's Inc. Blue-ray. You can see the dark pixels in the still in the red of the jacket. In areas of usually bright color I see what I can only describe as random pixels shutting off (going black) and turning back on. I see a similar thing in very dark areas where random pixels light up and flash. Occurs during active play back and during a still.

Is this a known issue? Should I expect to see it in my E7000?

Thanks for any info.

Still
https://www.box.com/s/ovduknxhnl8mtu9g9jwe

Vid 1
https://www.box.com/s/9tctiz500x349mtx8qg3

Vid 2
https://www.box.com/s/3zqxmgg4qel3ugpmf1ke
post #3849 of 4279
Btw, I should have added to the noisy picture post that I've set all filters, etc to OFF. Using stock CNET cal. settings.
Firmware on the C7000 is latest.
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jkwi: "Up Close" could be thought of as "Too Close". That's what your observation might be pointing to.
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htwaits: Yeah, I know I'm right on top of the thing. Like I said, it doesn't really bother me to watch at viewing distance. It's more a technical thing. The same content played on an LCD TV or on my PC to LCD does not show that noise so I'm pretty sure it is the Plasma that is doing it.
post #3852 of 4279
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Originally Posted by jkwi View Post

htwaits: Yeah, I know I'm right on top of the thing. Like I said, it doesn't really bother me to watch at viewing distance. It's more a technical thing. The same content played on an LCD TV or on my PC to LCD does not show that noise so I'm pretty sure it is the Plasma that is doing it.

Just looked very closely and see no sign of it on my new E7000. I also spent several minutes looking for dead pixels while running solid color break-in slides the other day and never saw any transient black ones like your jpg shows.
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Originally Posted by jkwi View Post

htwaits: Yeah, I know I'm right on top of the thing. Like I said, it doesn't really bother me to watch at viewing distance. It's more a technical thing. The same content played on an LCD TV or on my PC to LCD does not show that noise so I'm pretty sure it is the Plasma that is doing it.
Plasma displays do something called dithering which creates the desired shade of color. The rule of thumb for plasma is to sit far enough away from the set so that you don't see dithering. Someone who exceeds the norm in distance eye sight might have a problem owning a plasma. Otherwise it's normal.
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Just purchased an open box PN60E7000 from Best Buy for $1100. It had a minor scratch on the front frame corner so was able to get it down to that price as original they wanted $1160. Will pick it up tomorrow and I am very excited. It was hard to evaluate it in the store since it was setup in the Magnolia section and it was dark in there.

I have been on a TV hunt for the past 2 months. My list of TVs I went through so far are a LG 47lm4600, 55lm4600, 55lm6400, 55lm6700, 55lm7600 (2 of them) and a LG plasma 60pm6700. The LG LEDs just have terrible light bleed, tried the LG plasma and it was just terrible. I think this TV will be a huge step up and better then anything else I have tried so far. I am just hoping for no major picture issues where I would need to return it as I cannot imagine what else I would get. My max to spend was $1200.

Just today I was going to place an order for the 2013 Samsung 60" 5500 plasma but the E7000 seems like it is a huge step up from the new 5500 and worth taking the chance on the open box sale. Have 15 days to return it so I am at least not stuck with it in case any issues.

Is the only difference between the 7000 and 8000 the camera and motion features? Is the PQ exactly the same?
post #3855 of 4279
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Plasma displays do something called dithering which creates the desired shade of color. The rule of thumb for plasma is to sit far enough away from the set so that you don't see dithering. Someone who exceeds the norm in distance eye sight might have a problem owning a plasma. Otherwise it's normal.

I'm curious, do those black spots in the red area of his still shot look like dithering? Unless the dithering is very slow or the shutter speed was very fast wouldn't there be a more even dithering distribution? Sorry if these are silly questions, just trying to learn.
Edited by abalone - 3/29/13 at 8:08pm
post #3856 of 4279
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Originally Posted by pos1121 View Post

While I thought the E7000 was a nice set, I swapped it once I saw the ST-60 at Best Buy. If you can swing the $100 I will almost guarantee you will be very impressed. I was very happy I did.

Good luck with your decision.

I bought the ST60 Thursday night, here are some of my initial concerns and impressions: ST60

So you've owned both (how long did you own the Samsung?). I was also considering the E8000.

Did you feel like the Samsung handled HD cable content better? That's my biggest concern with the ST60 right now.
Edited by TV4Sooner - 3/30/13 at 1:39am
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Is there a way to check how much usage time is on the TV?
post #3858 of 4279
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Is there a way to check how much usage time is on the TV?

Got this from another site and it worked on my E7000

1. With the TV on, input this key sequence: MUTE, 7, 3, 7, ENTER
2. A menu will be displayed, do NOT press any more buttons.
3. Your panel's run time (in hours) is the "MRT" value.
4. Press power on the remote, the TV will turn off. The TV is now back to normal and may be turned on again.
post #3859 of 4279
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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

Got this from another site and it worked on my E7000

1. With the TV on, input this key sequence: MUTE, 7, 3, 7, ENTER
2. A menu will be displayed, do NOT press any more buttons.
3. Your panel's run time (in hours) is the "MRT" value.
4. Press power on the remote, the TV will turn off. The TV is now back to normal and may be turned on again.
Thanks!

Is there any way to shut off the annoying noise the TV makes when you push buttons on the remote. I called Samsung and they said no but I just cannot believe that...
Edited by eric3316 - 3/30/13 at 10:36am
post #3860 of 4279
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

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Originally Posted by abalone View Post

Got this from another site and it worked on my E7000

1. With the TV on, input this key sequence: MUTE, 7, 3, 7, ENTER
2. A menu will be displayed, do NOT press any more buttons.
3. Your panel's run time (in hours) is the "MRT" value.
4. Press power on the remote, the TV will turn off. The TV is now back to normal and may be turned on again.
Thanks!

Is there any way to shut off the annoying noise the TV makes when you push buttons on the remote. I called Samsung and they said no but I just cannot believe that...

Menu>System>General>Sound Feedback
post #3861 of 4279
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Just purchased an open box PN60E7000 from Best Buy for $1100. It had a minor scratch on the front frame corner so was able to get it down to that price as original they wanted $1160. Will pick it up tomorrow and I am very excited. It was hard to evaluate it in the store since it was setup in the Magnolia section and it was dark in there.

I have been on a TV hunt for the past 2 months. My list of TVs I went through so far are a LG 47lm4600, 55lm4600, 55lm6400, 55lm6700, 55lm7600 (2 of them) and a LG plasma 60pm6700. The LG LEDs just have terrible light bleed, tried the LG plasma and it was just terrible. I think this TV will be a huge step up and better then anything else I have tried so far. I am just hoping for no major picture issues where I would need to return it as I cannot imagine what else I would get. My max to spend was $1200.

Just today I was going to place an order for the 2013 Samsung 60" 5500 plasma but the E7000 seems like it is a huge step up from the new 5500 and worth taking the chance on the open box sale. Have 15 days to return it so I am at least not stuck with it in case any issues.

Is the only difference between the 7000 and 8000 the camera and motion features? Is the PQ exactly the same?
Amazon has the 60e8000 for $1759.85
post #3862 of 4279
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Originally Posted by OfficialPG View Post

Menu>System>General>Sound Feedback
Thanks, that noise was terrible.
post #3863 of 4279
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

Just purchased an open box PN60E7000 from Best Buy for $1100. It had a minor scratch on the front frame corner so was able to get it down to that price as original they wanted $1160. Will pick it up tomorrow and I am very excited. It was hard to evaluate it in the store since it was setup in the Magnolia section and it was dark in there.

I have been on a TV hunt for the past 2 months. My list of TVs I went through so far are a LG 47lm4600, 55lm4600, 55lm6400, 55lm6700, 55lm7600 (2 of them) and a LG plasma 60pm6700. The LG LEDs just have terrible light bleed, tried the LG plasma and it was just terrible. I think this TV will be a huge step up and better then anything else I have tried so far. I am just hoping for no major picture issues where I would need to return it as I cannot imagine what else I would get. My max to spend was $1200.

Just today I was going to place an order for the 2013 Samsung 60" 5500 plasma but the E7000 seems like it is a huge step up from the new 5500 and worth taking the chance on the open box sale. Have 15 days to return it so I am at least not stuck with it in case any issues.

Is the only difference between the 7000 and 8000 the camera and motion features? Is the PQ exactly the same?

Exactly no, is the difference noticeable it could be to the decerning eye under the right tests, they are more simillar than not however......The main differences are what you pointed out Camera and voice...

As far as the differences between the 2013 5500 and the E7000 I dont know if that can be determined as of yet sicne the 5500 hasnt really be out in the wild that long and the reviews on it are almost nil.......If there was soem physical damage to the set I might ahve bargained for a lower price or have them include an extend warranty for free as that doesnt usually bode well for how well the set was taken care of......
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Exactly no, is the difference noticeable it could be to the decerning eye under the right tests, they are more simillar than not however......The main differences are what you pointed out Camera and voice...

As far as the differences between the 2013 5500 and the E7000 I dont know if that can be determined as of yet sicne the 5500 hasnt really be out in the wild that long and the reviews on it are almost nil.......If there was soem physical damage to the set I might ahve bargained for a lower price or have them include an extend warranty for free as that doesnt usually bode well for how well the set was taken care of......
are u in Chicagoland ? I had bought an open box from best buy and returned it . I paid the same price. Mine had a bad HDMI port and the picture would randomly cut out, I would get colored snow. I think it only happened on HDMI 2. Make sure u check it out well during your 30 day eval. I think best buy doesn't really check them thuroughly and it could have been returned for a defect not yet fixed. But can't beat the price. I would use the savings and get an extended warranty myself ( not trying to start a war the the anti warrant guys ) .either way run it through the ringer while its still returnable
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are u in Chicagoland ? I had bought an open box from best buy and returned it . I paid the same price. Mine had a bad HDMI port and the picture would randomly cut out, I would get colored snow. I think it only happened on HDMI 2. Make sure u check it out well during your 30 day eval. I think best buy doesn't really check them thuroughly and it could have been returned for a defect not yet fixed. But can't beat the price. I would use the savings and get an extended warranty myself ( not trying to start a war the the anti warrant guys ) .either way run it through the ringer while its still returnable

I think you meant to reply to the poster I was replying to wink.gif I would agree with you though, I would run it thrugh as many checks and tests that I could before it was too late.....
post #3866 of 4279
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Originally Posted by pos1121 View Post

I took delivery of my 51E7000 from Best Buy last week. They price matched Paul's online price, which is the lowest I've seen. It doesn't buzz any more than my GT30, which is to say hardly at all. Quick observations are it has a very nice picture. I just noticed watching the NCAA tournament there was a commercial that had a predominately white background and saw what I would think was the brightness pop I've read about.First time and honestly not very bothersome in this instance. Screen is excellent controlling reflections.

One other observation that I have- the Relax setting to my eyes seems to have more pop than the Movie mode. It almost seems like the color is muted in Movie mode. I've tried the settings I could find for Movie and still prefer Relax.

Nice set overall.
That is not a brightness pop. Brightness pops occur in dark areas of the picture. Brightness pops only happened on 2011 D series and is a major problem. This is why Samsung replaced mine with an E series. It was a common problem.

What you are seeing is normal on plasmas and is caused by the ABL function which is a voltage regulator that kicks in on bright white screens due to the high power necessary to produce such a white screen.
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are u in Chicagoland ? I had bought an open box from best buy and returned it . I paid the same price. Mine had a bad HDMI port and the picture would randomly cut out, I would get colored snow. I think it only happened on HDMI 2. Make sure u check it out well during your 30 day eval. I think best buy doesn't really check them thuroughly and it could have been returned for a defect not yet fixed. But can't beat the price. I would use the savings and get an extended warranty myself ( not trying to start a war the the anti warrant guys ) .either way run it through the ringer while its still returnable
No, I am in NC and need some help guys.

Got the TV home today and seems like I was lied to. It was not a return like I was told it was actually a floor model as I found the original sticker uner the doscounted price. It has 3,000 hourson the TV and after running some slides on the lighter colors I can see where they ran widescreen movies as it is darker in that spot.

My questions are is this something that can be evened out over time or is is already a gonner. Also, since you cannot see it when watching anything should I go back to them and complain and keep the TV if they give me a few hundred off? If I return it then with my budget I would only be able to get the new 2013 Sasmung PN60F5500.

So not sure if I go with the lesser quality TV or keep the better TV and try to get a better price on it.


Update: Went to Best Buy and spoke with a manager. He was awesome. He discounted the TV so I could purchase the 5 year protection plan. So price stayed the same but now have 5 years of coverage. Cool thing is that their coverage covers burn in so I can now have the panel replaced.

I must say I am so happy with the PQ of this TV. After going through 6 LED TVs before ending up here it is definitley the best picture. At the start of my TV hunt I was so against plasma's and just thought it was like going back to the age of the dinosaur with all the stores pushing their LED TVs. Boy was I wrong and good thing I found this site because it finally pushed me to look at plasma's!

What are the recommended settings for this TV? I keep reading about CNET settings but haven't seen any for this TV? I just bought the Disney WOW disk but haven't really dug into it and it looks like it is going to take time to use it correctly and to it's fullest extent. Would prefer to see what is alreay out there first.
Edited by eric3316 - 3/30/13 at 6:18pm
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abalone: I'd be surprised if this was dithering. Those pixels are randomly shutting off or lighting up with a bright green color. I've heard something about plasmas and pulse width modulation noise, I'm reading up. Again, I'm not complaining, I'd just like to know what it is, and/or if it is common to all. It's not hard to capture in a still. Any solid colored area will do on my set.
post #3869 of 4279
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Originally Posted by jkwi View Post

abalone: I'd be surprised if this was dithering. Those pixels are randomly shutting off or lighting up with a bright green color. I've heard something about plasmas and pulse width modulation noise, I'm reading up. Again, I'm not complaining, I'd just like to know what it is, and/or if it is common to all. It's not hard to capture in a still. Any solid colored area will do on my set.

That's what I was thinking. I'll try to post a pic tomorrow of mine showing solid colors. Do you know what shutter speed you used?
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No, I am in NC and need some help guys.

Got the TV home today and seems like I was lied to. It was not a return like I was told it was actually a floor model as I found the original sticker uner the doscounted price. It has 3,000 hourson the TV and after running some slides on the lighter colors I can see where they ran widescreen movies as it is darker in that spot.

My questions are is this something that can be evened out over time or is is already a gonner. Also, since you cannot see it when watching anything should I go back to them and complain and keep the TV if they give me a few hundred off? If I return it then with my budget I would only be able to get the new 2013 Sasmung PN60F5500.

So not sure if I go with the lesser quality TV or keep the better TV and try to get a better price on it.


Update: Went to Best Buy and spoke with a manager. He was awesome. He discounted the TV so I could purchase the 5 year protection plan. So price stayed the same but now have 5 years of coverage. Cool thing is that their coverage covers burn in so I can now have the panel replaced.

I must say I am so happy with the PQ of this TV. After going through 6 LED TVs before ending up here it is definitley the best picture. At the start of my TV hunt I was so against plasma's and just thought it was like going back to the age of the dinosaur with all the stores pushing their LED TVs. Boy was I wrong and good thing I found this site because it finally pushed me to look at plasma's!

What are the recommended settings for this TV? I keep reading about CNET settings but haven't seen any for this TV? I just bought the Disney WOW disk but haven't really dug into it and it looks like it is going to take time to use it correctly and to it's fullest extent. Would prefer to see what is alreay out there first.

Well hopefully you didnt actually pay much if anything for the EW........You can run slides to see if it goes away or run full screen content, it "should" fade over time, but only time will tell.......
As far as settings go:
These are for the 8K but should give you a starrting point for the 7K:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-561058/samsung-pn60e8000-picture-settings/?tag=StickyWin_1334693678140;createThreadPopup

If you do a search in this thread I am sure youll find a number of posts by members with thier settings.....
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