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post #421 of 4281
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post


Tony, i just recieved my 51E8000 which is replacing a 50C7000. I am not happy with mine mostly because of fluctuating brightness. Have you noticed this issue with yours. Its very noticeable when watching hockey.

It has an audible buzz and 3 dead pixels

Also, i dont notice any PQ improvements over the C7000. Even black level (which i was never satisfied with) looks the same to me. Are you happy with the black level on yours? because i swear the 51E8000 in the store looked like it had better black levels than mine does.

What settings do you have your set on?
Try movie mode , contrast enhancer low, picture size set to screen fit-not 16:9, make Eco sensor off , also ambient sensor off ,digital noise filter set to off or low your preference, picture temp warm 2 or warm 1 your preference.
Let me know if this helps
post #422 of 4281
Wondering if you guys have noticed ur TV tuner being rather weak. On mine even on cable the picture will just kinda block up and the sound semi mutes. My Largre arial antenna is even worse, Just a little bit of wind and the picture is gone. It happens alot on cable now for me, where i never had these problems with my C7000.
post #423 of 4281
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Originally Posted by airgon74 View Post

What settings do you have your set on?
Try movie mode , contrast enhancer low, picture size set to screen fit-not 16:9, make Eco sensor off , also ambient sensor off ,digital noise filter set to off or low your preference, picture temp warm 2 or warm 1 your preference.
Let me know if this helps

All the settings are set like you describe here. Eco sensor is off but the only thing is i cant find anything about a ambient sensor. Where can i find this in the menu? Will that help with FBR?
post #424 of 4281
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Originally Posted by tonyjd40 View Post

hey guys, I just thought I would check in. I am using zoyd's d8000 settings on my 51 e 8000 and they work ok. I also used the disney disk and did settings for relax , and then I did the free download here and used it to do settings in standard. Believe it or not all are so close it really is hard to tell. I still have no buzzing at all. Have not yet noticed anything terribly bad about this tv. I am not a fan of the motion control, and I really wish they would have kept the qwerty remote, because inputting is rather tedious using this touch remote. Sometimes the little pointer is not the easiest thing to control. Voice does rather well, it controls my tv and my bd-d5500 blu ray nicely. I have an extra ir blaster (still in the box) if anyone wants or needs it. I also got one tv that had the gb 3050 glasses, the other has the gb 4100. The only difference I can see is the 4100 are alittle thinner however, I like the 3050 cause the lenses are slightly bigger. Both sets of glasses have the same excellent 3d viewing quality - neither is better than the other. face recognition is not my thing, I set it up and it just ends up getting me frustrated, I shut off the recognition and did the password option. Has anyone had their set pro calibrated yet ?? Really curious to see results.

god bless all and have a very happt easter !!!

tony

I tryed Zoyd's D8000 settings on my new 51E8000 as well. Thats when i noticed this set has alot of dithering (much more than my C7000 it replaced). With the brightness set to what Zoyd used on the D model, it showed alot of dithering in the black bars. I had to lower the brightness from 56 to 46 to eliminate dithering in the black! Because of this i set it back to out of the box movie mode for the time being (brightness is at 45). I will wait for proffesional calibration settings.

Is your set doing the same using Zoyds setting from last year?

I wonder if this dithering is going to limit the ability to optimaly calibrate these sets...?
post #425 of 4281
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Originally Posted by wrassie86 View Post

Wondering if you guys have noticed ur TV tuner being rather weak. On mine even on cable the picture will just kinda block up and the sound semi mutes. My Largre arial antenna is even worse, Just a little bit of wind and the picture is gone. It happens alot on cable now for me, where i never had these problems with my C7000.

Little more info. I checked the logs for weak channels weather cable or antenea. And except for a weak channel, there is nothing there. I still think after the set up problems i had, the tv just needs a full factory reset, maybe call sumsung later and see if they give up the info.
post #426 of 4281
Hey boys I have not ever owned a plasma as of yet and i was just looking at best buys wall of fame ( not the best viewing conditions yes i know this ) there was a mix of plasmas and leds and when the screens went all too white i noticed a very bright nice white on all the leds and all the plasmas were a dull Grey..


So boys my question is this ..........


Are plasmas capable of a nice bright white or are they always goin to be an off white gray look that i seen in best buys ?????????
post #427 of 4281
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Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER View Post

Hey boys I have not ever owned a plasma as of yet and i was just looking at best buys wall of fame ( not the best viewing conditions yes i know this ) there was a mix of plasmas and leds and when the screens went all too white i noticed a very bright nice white on all the leds and all the plasmas were a dull Grey..

So boys my question is this ..........

Are plasmas capable of a nice bright white or are they always goin to be an off white gray look that i seen in best buys ?????????

First, the settings on the tvs on display at BB aren't what you'll use at home. Your home environment is much better for viewing overall as well. You really can't get much from a comparison at BB IMHO. I know it meant little compared to what I got in-home.

I wouldn't call it a dull grey on my plasma (PN59D8000) for whites, but they won't be as white as an LCD nor do you necessarily want it (due to the different technology, white is the most "strenuous" color for a plasma set, and there are automatic brightness limiting in some plasma sets, too).

However, having had both in similar models (tried a UN60C6300 first) , I prefer the plasma quality of picture and color overall and I really don't care if the whites are as bright as possible, they look fine to me. Overall I found the LCD to be a bit too bright and artificial in comparison to the plasma. I really had no problem with the LCD except for horrible flashlighting and clouding, but after having exchanged that for the plasma, I just prefer the look of the plasma. I have read many complaints about watching a lot of bright white content, such as hockey, though, so if that's important to you maybe the LCD sets would be better for you.
post #428 of 4281
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Hey, guys. I also lowered the brightness setting from zoyds settings. I am impressed with the pq overall. Last night I watched LOTR trilogy - extended version - and I got to say I really enjoyed it. The pq was very very pleasing. I continue to use the disney wow disc to try to get the whites and blacks set just right. I usually end up clipping black alittle, but the white (brightness) does really well. Also, I am currently battleing with the color and tint settings - continuosly going back and forth. I feel I am close to having the pq as good as I can get it, if I can just get the tint - color thing worked out. Sometimes I get over saturerated colors when viewing the vegetable cart but then if I put the tint down the next slide - flowers - seem alittle dull. Driving me nuts. If I leave the first slide (girls face) over saturated the next slide - vegetables - seem great but then the next slide - flowers - seem to bright but I can defenately see all the different shades of colors - reds-oranges-pinks-yellows- but they look too bright. Has anyone else used the disney wow disc ? Watching transformers now and it looks great, but then again not alot of bright colors in this movie.

One more thing - I like the voice control feature, but usualy just end up using remote anyway. Also, I changed the way I set up my system. I went with this set up - Blu ray HDMI to TV, Dish box HDMI to reciever, Reciever HDMI to Tv, Optical from Blu ray to Reciever - I was having some trouble with the blu ray pq so it must have been my Onkyo HT-S3300 interfering with it in some manner.

god bless
post #429 of 4281
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Originally Posted by wrassie86 View Post

we watch alot of ripped streamed movies, today i found out MKV is not streamable unless you use there allshare software, not bad except for me it takes a good 5 minutes load, if it does.

By "using there allshare software" you mean installing allshare on your PC instead of using built-in DLNA (Windows Media Libraries) right? If so I was able to get MKVs to stream without installing the allshare server. It's a hack mentioned on another thread. Just rename the .MKV file to .AVI. Works - but may not be something everyone wants to do.
post #430 of 4281
[quote=RandyWalters;21866710]Video streaming is blocked at my workplace so i won't be able to see it, but i do remember a discussion/thread from a few years ago about shock sensors or tip sensors and One Call did have a video showing how they strapped the TV to a pallet and attached shock or tip sensors, but people were complaining that the TV they got from One Call was not on a pallet and did not have a shock sensor.

Aside from that discussion from a few years ago, i can't recall any mention of consumer models coming with shock/tip sensors in the past 7 years. The only way a retailer can offer this type of specialized service is if they have the TV in their possession or their own warehouse but the reality is that virtually all TVs are drop shipped from regional warehouses with few exceptions, and TVs shipped from regional warehouses will not come on a pallet or have shock/tip sensors attached.

So aside from One Call claiming to do this, what other retailer do you know who ships TVs with shock and/or tip sensors? I don't think Value Electronics or Cleveland Plasma use them. And i know that Magnolia doesn't, nor does Amazon, or Paul's, or Fry's. So who does??


Crutchfield did when I got my VT30. It had one of those labels indicators that turn red if the TV box was bounce,tip or had something stacked on top. Now how accurate are these labels (who knows). But they are not consistent, after exchanging the first set, second set did not have such labels but was inside another box full of some type of styrofoam.
post #431 of 4281
Got my 60e8000 last night. PQ is great. Voice works. Gestures not so much but I think it's my room. My Logitech DiNovo keyboard works great with it.
post #432 of 4281
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Originally Posted by DingoDaddy View Post

By "using there allshare software" you mean installing allshare on your PC instead of using built-in DLNA (Windows Media Libraries) right? If so I was able to get MKVs to stream without installing the allshare server. It's a hack mentioned on another thread. Just rename the .MKV file to .AVI. Works - but may not be something everyone wants to do.

Ya thats what meant.. I tried to rename a few and even change the header info with MKV tool, but no luck for me. But i must say i like the Allshare program for the extras it gives. But my HTPC is 64 bit win 7 so the program starts up really slow. I installed it on my laptop win7 32bit and the program is fast and stable..

It would be so nice if these TV's came with a decent manual. I made a comment a few pages back i would like to correct. For those that came from the C7000 and use the Media play function to control the picture you pressed the tools button, on this TV you press the Menu button to get to those funtions. Thought i would post since i made the comment samsung removed it. And i found it by accident
post #433 of 4281
Voice control eradict. Touch remote has slow response . Using standard remote.
FBrs are back! FBrs are not totally gone..just reduced very minimally .
I have the 64E8000 and the blacks are noticeably darker. Can't wait to calibrate in a month .
post #434 of 4281
Haven't posted in ages, but just ordered myself the PN64E8000 and very excited. It's replacing my KDS60XBR2 SXRD, which I consider a very big upgrade. Looking forward to getting it calibrated and seeing this bad boy in action!
post #435 of 4281
Still no pictures of installed e8000/e7000...Pffff....Is it so difficult to take pictures, just to see the tv in real conditions and in action?

Please, a little effort. Thanks!
post #436 of 4281
After a few days with my PN64E8000:

Turned off gesture control - not sure what room it was designed for but it worked great at BB. They need a laser pointer like control.

Watched Lion King 3D and was blown away - bright and clear using out of box 3D settings.

Sadly, still monitoring buzz to see if it decreases - at times I can't hear it and other times it seems to reach 20ft with no obvious difference in on screen material. I am hoping as screen breaks in, it may settle down a bit. Am I crazy?
post #437 of 4281
[quote=lennyp;21885121]After a few days with my PN64E8000:

Watched Lion King 3D and was blown away - bright and clear using out of box 3D settings.

"Bright & Clear." That's good news.

I've had a 2010 and 2011 top of the line Samsung PDP and it appeared that the brightness level had increased from the old to the new but still not enough for 3D. I debating whether to get the 2012 or not based on that alone. I've never had a buzzer yet and no peeling on the 2011 but did have the pops. Assuming those things are history, I'm just concerened about the 3D brightness. I have seen a 2012 in action at BB and it did appear the 3D was brighter but I'll have to take a few of the disc that I own and know where brightness suffers to be doubt free.

Let us know how other 3D disc fare on your new set concerning the brightness and the further banishing of ghost.
post #438 of 4281
Here's my 64E7000.
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post #439 of 4281
By the way, anyone looking for a great stand for a great price for their Samsung check this out
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Whalen+F...1366&st=whalen tv stand&cp=1&lp=8

This stand is already put together and is a quality stand. I read the reviews over and over before I ordered. The stand use to go for around $600.00 and don't even bother with the $399.00 price. When I placed my order the guy at BB said it was now $250.00. The center channel speaker size was just right for my large HSU speaker. As just about all the reviews say and I concurr, the stand looks better in person than in the picture. I had an open glass top stand that afforded more space for components but I always hated the dust that accumulated and the glass stand was blase in the looks department.

For the money and the fact that it's already assembled and for the quality of the product this is a steal. It took almost two weeks for the stand to arrive from their warehouse in Ohio. It took 2 BB employees to put the stand in the back of my wife's 2008 Rav4. I saved 69.00 on delivery but on the way home I was wondering how I was going to get the stand in the house as I had not contacted anyone (not enough time after finding out it was in) to assist me.

Thank God for ingenuity. I slid it out the back of the truck and onto a set of 4 individual dolly wheels. I rolled it through the garage and through the back yard and to the side door. I manuvered through the side door and slid it down the steps. I marveled at being able to do that all alone as this unit weighs a over 250lbs if I'm not mistaken.
post #440 of 4281
Does the 64E7000 have the claw foot stand and what color is it? Thanks
post #441 of 4281
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Originally Posted by genki View Post

Does the 64E7000 have the claw foot stand and what color is it? Thanks

Yes chrome claw foot. color is a dark bronze i think. Not black but looks pretty good.
post #442 of 4281
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Originally Posted by wrassie86 View Post

Here's my 64E7000.

looks very nice :-).
post #443 of 4281
Brightness pops have not been fixed! My 51E8000 has very noticeable brightness fluctuations, particularly when watching hockey. Very dissaponted and if it continues and there is no firmware upgrade to fix it then i am getting my money back and buying the new GT50.
I really do want to like this new set but right now...i dont.
post #444 of 4281
Can someone tell me where in the menu i can find the control for the Ambient Light Sensor? Or if there even is one.

Thanks,
51E8000 Owner
post #445 of 4281
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Brightness pops have not been fixed! My 51E8000 has very noticeable brightness fluctuations, particularly when watching hockey. Very dissaponted and if it continues and there is no firmware upgrade to fix it then i am getting my money back and buying the new GT50.
I really do want to like this new set but right now...i dont.

I was watching some hockey the other day, looking For brightness fluctuations, i noticed what i thought were cam flashes, but i also noticed some other little blips i will call them in the brightness that i thought might be tied to the pixel shifter being on, since i could not run in screen fit on that channel.So i thought pixel shift was causing the other little pops in brightness, Not sure though.
Also my 7000 has what is called "Motion Lighting" that is in the advanced pic menu, Mine has been "grayed out" since turning the eco stuff off, But it did do something with the brightness.
post #446 of 4281
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Originally Posted by Tomeo View Post

Still no pictures of installed e8000/e7000...Pffff....Is it so difficult to take pictures, just to see the tv in real conditions and in action?

Please, a little effort. Thanks!

I'll post some pictures of my installed 51e7000 tonight

I watched the 3D BR version of Hugo last night and was blown away by the PQ and 3D on this set. Bright, even, beautiful picture. I set it to Movie mode and changed the picture mode from Warm 2 to Warm 1- which I think is really really close to perfect.

I haven't noticed any brightness fluctuations (at least on the e7000) and the 'buzzing' I noticed the first day is a complete non-issue. It is so faint, that I've only ever noticed it when nothing in my house but the TV was on- and on mute. Maybe some sets are louder, but if this is the buzzing people have been mentioning, its like saying the gears in your wristwatch turn too loudly for you to enjoy looking at what time it is.
post #447 of 4281
CNet has the PN60E8000 in studio for testing. I'm sure they will post review sometime this week.
Keep checking the site.
post #448 of 4281
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Originally Posted by wrassie86 View Post

I was watching some hockey the other day, looking For brightness fluctuations, i noticed what i thought were cam flashes, but i also noticed some other little blips i will call them in the brightness that i thought might be tied to the pixel shifter being on, since i could not run in screen fit on that channel.So i thought pixel shift was causing the other little pops in brightness, Not sure though.
Also my 7000 has what is called "Motion Lighting" that is in the advanced pic menu, Mine has been "grayed out" since turning the eco stuff off, But it did do something with the brightness.

Yes those Bright Pops do look like the Camera making Sudden changes in exposure but they are not there on other TV's with the same material. I am a big fan of 3D and seen rather a lot on the D6900 here in the UK but i have Never seen one Bright Scene pop with 3D to date. Its an odd one no doubt and i think would be very simple to fix, Trouble is getting a decent Sammy engineer to actually see and log the issue on a set then report back to Samsung.
post #449 of 4281
I currently own a D7000 and I'm very unhappy with it due to the brightness pops in dark scenes which drive me nuts. I'ts so bad I'm considering trading in the set to Best Buy for 50% just to get rid of it. I shouldn't even consider another Samsung, but I figured I'd read a bit in here about the new E7000 just to see if things got better. I'm amazed to see the E models also have brightness pops, according to several users here already. That seals it for me right here - I guess it's gonna be a Panasonic then if I do this because I'm gonna lose money trading in this set just to get an E7000 with the same issue.
post #450 of 4281
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I currently own a D7000 and I'm very unhappy with it due to the brightness pops in dark scenes which drive me nuts. I'ts so bad I'm considering trading in the set to Best Buy for 50% just to get rid of it. I shouldn't even consider another Samsung, but I figured I'd read a bit in here about the new E7000 just to see if things got better. I'm amazed to see the E models also have brightness pops, according to several users here already. That seals it for me right here - I guess it's gonna be a Panasonic then if I do this because I'm gonna lose money trading in this set just to get an E7000 with the same issue.

I'm assuming you already applied the fix? It didn't work for you? My D7000 has no brightness pops after the fix was applied.

The only "issue" I have with the set is the ABL kicking in during hockey games which can be kind of annoying.
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