Official Samsung PNXXE7000 - PNXXE8000 owners thread - Page 18

Zoyd any user setting for the new e8000 series?

Hey Zoyd:
Does it mean we still have to use that program to check hours or is there a more straightforward means with the E series?

Thanks

I don't have an E-series panel to test.

UK test from David Mackenzie "HDTVtest" or AVForum ?
thanks

Give it a rest with the hockey for cripes sake! Plasma is not great for hockey. My 5020 blows for hockey. Plus, hockey blows. We get it. If you get pops with something other than hockey, let us know.

Lol great post! Agreed

First e8000 firmware available on Samsung US site:

- ver.1015.1
- Description: Picture quality improvement. This firmware change the trigger word from Hi TV to Hi TV power on ( from Smart TV to Smart TV power on) for feature improvement.

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/ow...GFXZA#firmware

I've never seen any evidence of this claim documented. What specifically are you seeing, and are you able to see it at a normal viewing distance?

Lack of a single bypass function, yes. But with everything deactivated, the only residual processing going on is what every flat screen must use to manage the particular display technology.

Ok, I joined the dark side... exchanged my 55 inch ES7500 for a 60 inch E8000.

So far I like what I'm seeing, I haven't attempted to play any video games yet, I'm 'trying' to go through a 100 hour break in period before booting up the PS3 (not really sure this is necessary, tho).

I do hear a faint buzz, that seems louder if I turn my head to the right (?)... if this doesn't improve I 'may' have to go back to the LCD.

.0028 actually. Two calibrators have recorded this now. Initially it was thought to be .005 but when remeasured after some hours on the panel it dropped.

Well we don't know that everything is off too do we?
And we won't be able to compare if there is a difference if we can't turn it off right?

Anyhow I don't really wish to deride something which cannot be changed.
To me, I want to have a look at the new Vt/ST 50, and decide, which sadly I can't until May in my area..

As it stands alone, the e8000 was pretty nice during a 30 min quick look.

That's exactly what he said. And that the E is darker than both the st50 and vt30 which may ir may not end up being correct.

I wonder what is up with no interpolation. I don't usually use it, but why drop it? Nice to play with sometimes. Anyway, I returned my v30 to wait for the vt50 but I may be swayed to jump ship. Panny fanboys are getting as bad as the kuro kids. And I own a kuro. Sounds good so far. Will be looking forward to the reviews.

I just posted this but. The ST50 measures in at .0028fl, considerably darker than the E or VT30.

I am seeing numbers all over the place with no respectable folks placing a whole lot of confidence in their meters. I will be looking forward to what Chad B and DNice come up with. Though the St50 numbers seem to be trending better over time.

It may be a tough call between these sets this year. If the shadow detail really is as good as claimed on the vt50, it will be hard to look past it. I just don't know if the price diff will be worth it if the vt50 is anything higher than $3500 street price to start.

Sammy was smart to hit the street first and at a pretty good price point. Panny is banking on improvements this year and they are playing hardball on price policy. It may bite them in the arse or prove to be brilliant. Tough call. Either way, late product placement can never be to your advantage in my mind.

CNET had an article this past Wednesday comparing apps on TV's. David mentioned that they have a question in to Samsung as to why HBO Go is not on the new 2012 E8000. I noticed this missing the night I fired up the new TV. Does anyone else have any insight as to where HBO Go went? On any other 2012 Samsungs? I had it on my 2010 c series...

.0028fl is from d-nice for the ST50. Also repeated in by another professional reviewer. So I'd say it's a pretty solid number.

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Reasonable, now lets get solid numbers from these same guys on the Exxxx series. If you recall, the number from Dnice fell substantially from over what, a week or so on the st50 until he arrived at that value? It has been fairly typical for black levels to take a little time to settle down for both manufactures over the last two years or so. Lets paint an accurate picture of how little is written in stone for numbers on either panel.

When all is said and done both companies seem to have some great panels on their hands this year. And we do not have all the facts on either yet.

For less than 50 bucks you can get a Roku box with Hbo go,amazon, Netflix , Hulu plus, vudu, etc

It kind of strange to me that that the E8000 has been out since late march and hasn't been professionally reviewed!
Cnet will be posting a review next week. David k. Has the E8000 in studio for a week but has been having trouble with his test equipment.

Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering what was taking him so long.

Nor do we know anything about what's going on with a "bypass" mode, so how is it any different?


Your comment that "there is still some processing" would suggest to me that you were able to indentify something specific, when clearly that is not the case. You do understand that there is plenty of "processing" going on with any plasma, no matter the settings, right?

Thats BULLS**T! Any tv, particularly a $2000-$3000 "flagship" tv regardless of what type of technology, should not be exhibiting brightness pops at all...PERIOD!

Since you must clearly prefer figure skating to hockey, maybe we can discuss that instead?! And if you dont like my posts i suggest you just ignore them. I am simply trying to see if any others have had these same issues with thier E7000/8000.

Well said!

My friends 60ST50 had the same problem during last night's Coyote/BHawk game. I used to own several pdps, all of which sucked for hockey broadcasts. That's why i ended up with a LCD panel......

I came home & watched the same game on my lcd, via dvr, and you could see every shade of white, the ice, the Blackhawks' jerseys & all the diff. whites that the Coyote fans were wearing, as they were having a white out.

Good to know since im contemplating getting my money back and buying a Panny. Thats outa the question if they have the same issue.

Hockey looked great on my C7000. Im starting to wish i had it back. Hockey looks unnatural to me on most lcd's

Thanks

Hockey looks unnatural to me even indoors, always played outdoors and never watched much at all...kinda boring unless you're in the game. Like many sports. Except golf, it's boring even playing.

^^^^^^^^^ = Buttons easily pushed Relax dude FYI I like hockey but the Avalanche tick me off and I take it out on the entire sport.

I imagine figure skating would be just as painful to watch with all that white ice. The question is... What would Brian Boitano do?

If you are after clean bright consistant whites at the expense of every other aspect of PQ, I suggest an LED set which you mentioned you do not like. Your C7000 was prolly better due to the ABL restrictions not being quite as tight back then. The pops are due to ABL IMO and whites on any new or future PDP's will have dingy whites and fluctuating brightness to some extent regardless of manufacturer. Some just hide it better than others.

I've said countless times before , if your a gamer or love hockey. Get a LCD panel...
Plasmas are for movies and all sports except hockey.
If you want the best picture quality then get a plasma.

There have been No reports of the Bright Scene Pops in the UK on any of the Panasonics as far as i'm aware.
Funny thing tho is this term 'Brightness Pops' seems to be taken for 2 different issues not only on the UK forums but here aswell lol !!.

Like i have said already i get the Bright Scene Pops on my D6900. When it happens its very annoying and in my opinion has absoloutely Nothing to do with the ABL limiter. If i have an all white scene with virtually nothing else onscreen the brightness is incredible with no sign of a limiter , But enter something else onto a very bright scene and then its pop pop pop like the camera filming the scene is changing its exposure in rapid steps .

Just my opinion

The Exx00 series was measured at .0041 - is .0028 really considerably darker?

Yeah, Overall its plenty bright for me. The problem is the fluctuations. I find it hard to believe that manufaturers cannot find a way to get rid of these pops while still adhering to "limitations" of the technology and energy standards. What a joke...maybe this is why they only push and promote lcd's now. I wont do it though. I will not give up the PQ of plasma, i will just have to find one that actually works like a tv should without these issues. Even if i have to send away for a UK model! ha