Official Samsung PNXXE7000 - PNXXE8000 owners thread - Page 20

Originally Posted by pioneer 1985

for what its worth, i am from the uk and last year i sent back four d series plasma's because of this abl brightness pop issue and i read most of you say you only see it on hockey, but i could see this happen with all content including standard tv, and gaming. it was obvious and distracting and trust me with every time where i seen the pops i directly tested the same material with my current tv where these pops do not occur.

i have a specific test file that i use of a film trailer ice age and with testing in store last year it was only the samsung plasma's that show these pops.

last week i went to check out this years models but they only had a e550 on display. i did the same test and unfortunately the pops were exactly the same as on last years d series which i am gutted about as i was interested in this tv.

i also done the same test on a panasonic ut50 which is a new model this year an the pops did not occur. so it seems this is a problem that samsung did not fix from last year.

also before anyone says about calibration of the tv reducing the pops, no matter what settings used the result was the same for my test material and with the panasonic i put it in dynamic mode and the pops don't happen.

Originally Posted by wattheF

Good to know. If Samsung doesnt have a fix for this REAL soon its lookin like they will be refunding my money and losing me as a customer.

Originally Posted by bargervais

are you having this trouble with a pnxxe8000 or are you talking about last years model?????

Originally Posted by vaxick

Read the quote above. Brightness pops are being see on the D and E series.

Originally Posted by eagle_2

So it sounds to me, from some of these comments, that the brightness pops are indeed still present with the E series sets.I'm just going by some of the comments I'm reading here, so please don't hold me to that if it is incorrect. I'm just saying that initial reports here of brightness pops does not sound promising, since the big reason I want to get rid of my 2011 is for that reason.

By the way, I don't watch hockey so I can only comment on what I have seen personally. On any dark material, the pops on my 2011 set are frequent and distracting. My girlfriend and a buddy never notice them though. The reason I mention this is because many people say they see pops while watching the "h" word. The only way I can describe what I see is pops, and again, seems to have no connection to abl, since it happens most noticeably when the screen is dark.

Anyways, I'm sad to hear some early reports of the problem still existing on the E series. I was hoping that would be the answer. Now I find myself re-considering the Panasonics again, even though it would cost me more money, not to mention buying glasses as well.

Originally Posted by TopperMcFly

This picture is fairly BS. If you look closely at the perimeter of each screen, there is more data on the outside of the vt50. So at the least, they do not have the vt50 in an overscan mode. And I do not buy for one second that the brightness on the 30 was anywhere close to where it should have been. The lights are rediculously blown out. My vt30 looked far better than what that pic is representing. This whole industry is smoke and mirrors. Only ordering one of each model you are considering and viewing them side by side will ever give you the piece of mind of which is better for you. And for the record, they all buzz. Pannys buzz just like Sammy's. It just varies from one set to another. My first 30 buzzed like there was no tomorrow. The second not nearly as much. Ironically, the D7000 I'm am testing has virtually none. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by wattheF

Good to know. If Samsung doesnt have a fix for this REAL soon its lookin like they will be refunding my money and losing me as a customer.

Originally Posted by zoyd

Can you link the trailer you use and time codes
where you see a problem?

Originally Posted by wattheF

Thats BULLS**T! Any tv, particularly a $2000-$3000 "flagship" tv regardless of what type of technology, should not be exhibiting brightness pops at all...PERIOD!

Since you must clearly prefer figure skating to hockey, maybe we can discuss that instead?! And if you dont like my posts i suggest you just ignore them. I am simply trying to see if any others have had these same issues with thier E7000/8000.

Originally Posted by bargervais

so i did read all your posts and see that you have had issues with c and e series hope you get it fixed.
Man you have had some bad luck,,,,,
I'M getting my pn60e8000 on Wednesday and i'll let you know what mine looks like.

Originally Posted by David_B

Actually the problem is Plasmas are TO GOOD at reproducing the flashes from people's camera's in the rink.

The issue is not "pops" from plasma, it's LCD's lack of fast response and low contrast that makes them to not be able to reproduce what the camera's at the rink pick up.

So, get over your TV that is to good, go back to the LCD.

It's like complaining you can see the wrinkles of people on HDTV now.

Once again, this isn't a failure of the Plasma, it's that plasma is to good at reproducing what's put into it.

Originally Posted by TommmyJ

I am thinking of buying the PNE648000. I was watching the hockey playoffs today on my Pioneer 5080 and I see flashes/pops when watching the game on this TV. Usually when the play is going back and forth up and down the ice it happens. I am not sure if the 5080 was prone to this problem too or if this is just camera flashes or some other kind of lighting going on during the game. It didn't bother me at all but only noticed it when I focused on trying to watch for it. If this is what people are seeing on the PNE648000 then it wouldn't bother me I don't think as it doesn't with my 5080.

Originally Posted by wattheF


That is exactly what is happening on my E8000. For me it is bothersome.

Originally Posted by tonyjd40

I guess if you have no problems with your new e series great, I love mine. If you do notice " problems" then get advise here, if you don't like the advice or you are still "bothered" exchange your set for a new one, or a different manufacturer, but please don't keep repeating the same old crap, it makes it seem as if you are intentionally bashing the tv or manufacturer ,just get a different set , and then maybe you will be happy. (maybe not). I know ' we all know' there is no perfect tv, and we discuss all the imperfections, but please guys this horse is D E A D and about to disintergrate. Some people notice "pops" some don't, there is also the camera flashes -that do account for some of those seeing " pops". I Hope that anyone visiting this thread for the first time undestands that there are some people that are very very particular about their sets pq, and what is being discussed here in most caese of the - average joe - would never be a problem. Anyway, back to the discussion. ENJOY !!

GOD BLESS

tony

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma

Chad and I will be doing ours up this week also........ PN60E8000

Originally Posted by wattheF

That is exactly what is happening on my E8000. For me it is bothersome.

Originally Posted by eagle_2

Anyways, I'm sad to hear some early reports of the problem still existing on the E series. I was hoping that would be the answer. Now I find myself re-considering the Panasonics again, even though it would cost me more money, not to mention buying glasses as well.