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post #211 of 426
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Originally Posted by SpOuK-3- View Post

Maybe it's some "internal" testing before boxing the tv set ... Internal panel test when assembling it?!

I saw the post before and was not sure how to answer it. In my case (with two 51" E8000) both, especially the second one, were clearly used (the last one had 94 hours out of the box). Now, there is one person who bought his TV on Amazon and it was advertised as used and when he checked it (after using it for at least 6 hours) he found his MRT was 12. So his used set would have had 6 hours out of the box. Another person in the UK tested his TV, fresh out of the box and his MRT was 0 which I really believe is the way it should be.

That said, 8 hours is if anything very lightly used and the key point is if there are any issues. I would check for buzzing, I would check for dead/stuck pixels and I would check for uniformity. Both of my used TVs had issues. The first one had one dead pixel and one flickering one but I could have lived with it if not for some noticeable uniformity issues, especially when running the scrolling bar. The second one also had uniformity issues, not apparent so much on the scrolling bar pattern but in full field white. This was coupled with one stuck pixel and 4 flickering ones. If you don't have any of these issues then I would keep the TV. You can definitely get worse out of the box with a set with an MRT of 0.

Edit: I was going to say check for burn-in but with 8 hours use you are not going to get burn-in, at worst, some stubborn image retention if during those 8 hours it was set to vivid or similar used as a computer monitor.
post #212 of 426
Called Samsung today, they are sending someone tomorrow to check my TV. Buzz sound is annoying smile.gif
post #213 of 426
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Originally Posted by PeterG View Post

I saw the post before and was not sure how to answer it. In my case (with two 51" E8000) both, especially the second one, were clearly used (the last one had 94 hours out of the box).

How do I check hours this tv has been used? I've googled this and the info-menu-mute-power method has been unsuccessful.
post #214 of 426
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Originally Posted by Gooseboy View Post

How do I check hours this tv has been used? I've googled this and the info-menu-mute-power method has been unsuccessful.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1401151/the-official-samsung-pnxxe6500-owners-thread/180_60#post_22424847
post #215 of 426
Cool. My TV has a fat 0. Thanks!
post #216 of 426
Can anyone in the US that has an e6500 please perform a quick test? I'm trying to clear up some possible differences between the US & UK e6500.

Please follow the below steps and let me know if the screen turns black for a few seconds indicating the TV actually is switching modes.

from HDTVTest.UK:
"When a 60hz signal is input, there’s a semi-hidden “PC” mode which has even lower input lag" "It’s accessed by pressing the SOURCE button, highlighting the HDMI input that your games console is connected to, pressing TOOLS, and changing the label to “PC”."

The following video shows the PC mode working on a UK e6500 @6:40:

Thanks smile.gif
Edited by cottonballs - 9/26/12 at 11:50am
post #217 of 426
"This video is currently unavailable."
post #218 of 426
Spoke to both Samsung and Amazon. Not a refurb, nor a return. Samsung said it is most likely factory testing since the value is so low. That said, the set has no signs of issues such as buzzing, IR, or anything else. It runs beautifully.
post #219 of 426
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Originally Posted by Gooseboy View Post

"This video is currently unavailable."

sorry, link fixed.
post #220 of 426
You just want to know if PC mode exists?
post #221 of 426
Is the Hulu Plus app extremely glitchy for anyone else?
post #222 of 426
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Originally Posted by Gooseboy View Post

You just want to know if PC mode exists?

I want to know if it actually does anything on a US e6500, I tested it out at the store and when I switched the label to PC nothing special happened, it just simply renamed that input as PC. But in the video I posted of the UK version of the e6500 (@6:40) when he changes it to "PC" the screen flashes black for a few seconds which looks like its switching to a different mode.

The assumption being that the US and UK e6500 are different, with the US version not having access to the hidden "PC" mode that has less input lag than the actual "game mode"

I didn't really trust my test or the stores video feed to properly rule this out, and wanted someone to further verify smile.gif
post #223 of 426
I don't use PC Mode, always have it in 'Movie Mode' because the colors are skin tones are amazing. I played FIFA 13, MADDEN 13, and MW3 and they play awesome on this TV set. I noticed a huge difference in MW3 because I was able to kill alot more people - before I seemed to always lose in face to face standoffs. Sports is super smooth - no blur or trails. Madden plays so much better in plasma than on my LED.


I checked my replacement TV and the MRT value was 0. The buzz is still there but much lower and not and high pitched as before - I can live with this as the picture quality is excellent
post #224 of 426
I have the e450 and when I edit the name of hdmi 1 to PC the movie mode changes to entertain mode, so something is happening.
post #225 of 426
Just got my new 60 inch E6500. The picture is really great but after having it on for several hours I noticed a lot of what looks like the screen flickering while watching Law and Order.

I used the Cnet settings for now. Is this what some are calling "hockey pop"? I never saw this with my old Sammy C series plasma. Maybe I'm having a problem.
post #226 of 426
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Originally Posted by forsureman View Post

I have the e450 and when I edit the name of hdmi 1 to PC the movie mode changes to entertain mode, so something is happening.

Thanks

I was finally able to test this at the store with my xbox 360/1080p/hdmi and I can confirm that the "PC" label trick does work on the US version of the e6500. As you also stated the only available display modes are Standard & Entertain.
post #227 of 426
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Originally Posted by al210 View Post

Just got my new 60 inch E6500. The picture is really great but after having it on for several hours I noticed a lot of what looks like the screen flickering while watching Law and Order.
I used the Cnet settings for now. Is this what some are calling "hockey pop"? I never saw this with my old Sammy C series plasma. Maybe I'm having a problem.

Well its not hockey pop. I watched some NHL network over the weekend and it looked fine. Watched NFL Redzone all day sunday and all was fine. I think its a problem with the signal from the local channels.

I was watching my local NBC channel and there was the flashing again. I'm on Verizon FIOS. Anyone else ever hear of this problem?
post #228 of 426
Well I think I found the problem. I'm running an HTPC with Windows Media Center 7. There is apparently a 29/59 frame bug that can possibly affect certain broadcast channels which would explain why I only see it on select channels.

Since my graphic driver is the Intel 2000 there is a check box in the driver settings for "dynamic contrast". I am going to un check that box tonight and see if it fixes the problem which apparently it does.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1418009/new-assassin-htpc-channels-constantly-flicker-giving-me-a-seizure
post #229 of 426
What software can i use to play real full hd 3D movie from PC via HDMI on my 51" E6500? I have bluray disc in .iso file (i don't have a BR player yet) and it's designed for our tv's and shutter glasses (not side-by-side crap, but real 1920x1080 3D). Is VLC media player ok for 3d? What will happen if i have a bad hdmi cable (lower then ver 1.4, because i have some cheap cable which probably isn't 1.4)?
Edited by majki84 - 10/2/12 at 6:37am
post #230 of 426
I'm excited I be joining the e6500 fam soon! Returning a 55" ST50. The IR is absurd on that set. 48hrs later and I'm still trying to wash away the screen after playing borderlands 2 6-7hrs straight. The coolest thing is that I noticed on best buy their site was incorrect on what should have been the e6500 page. I called corporate, they saw that I was correct and thanked me. They informed me it is in stock and that I can order one for delivery. I returning my st50 Friday and placing the order from my local bestbuy store for the 60" 6500. I can't wait!
post #231 of 426
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Originally Posted by LaRazaUnida View Post

I'm excited I be joining the e6500 fam soon! Returning a 55" ST50. The IR is absurd on that set. 48hrs later and I'm still trying to wash away the screen after playing borderlands 2 6-7hrs straight. The coolest thing is that I noticed on best buy their site was incorrect on what should have been the e6500 page. I called corporate, they saw that I was correct and thanked me. They informed me it is in stock and that I can order one for delivery. I returning my st50 Friday and placing the order from my local bestbuy store for the 60" 6500. I can't wait!

Is the Samsung 60" 6500 on the Best Buy website? I can't find it, yet in another thread someone else pointed out that they had it and that it's eligible for the $200 BB gift card promotion.

I've also been set on a Panasonic plasma after going through the LG 7600 and Samsung EH6000, but too many reports of IR scare me off. Worse thing on the Sammy seems to be buzzing, which hopefully won't be too much of a problem in my living room. I've also heard people say Samsung has better video processing for HDTV channels...

Not sure if I would wanna do E7000 or E6500 yet though.
post #232 of 426
Dunno, if purbeast is still monitoring this thread but I finally have a verdict on whether or not this TV is gamer friendly. The answer is no. After I clocked in over 100 hours on the TV I was confident enough to hook up the Xbox. I tested four games in PC mode: Mega Man 10, Rock Band Blitz, Super Street Fighter IV, and Street Fighter X Tekken.

The input lag in Mega Man 10 was slight but noticeable. It didn’t negatively affect gameplay though. The game’s native resolution is 480p so some of that input lag is the fault of the Xbox’s scaler.

I manually calibrated Rock Band Blitz to compensate for latency. The results I got were Audio 53ms and Video 76ms. For comparison, the settings for Rock Band Blitz on my ASUS VH236H monitor were Audio -38ms and Video 26ms. Remember, these numbers are just calibration settings and not an exact reading of the TV’s input lag. But the numbers do show that there is a pretty big difference between this Samsung and the supposedly almost lag free ASUS.

I’m only a casual fan of fighting games so I don’t play at a competitive level. I’ve never been great at linking and canceling but I do notice when combos are impossible to pull off because of a laggy TV. This TV isn’t so bad. I’m not sure how much lag this TV actually has but I was able to play without feeling like it was holding me back. A competitive fighter might not agree. Again, the Rock Band Blitz results show that the ASUS performs better by a significant margin.

I only screwed around with the Xbox for a little bit because the plasma is still new. I don’t plan on doing any serious playing until I hit the 200 hour mark. It might be possible to improve the lag through trial and error. The Samsung’s scaler could be faster than the Xbox’s. I have yet to try changing the Xbox’s output to Street Fighter’s native resolution of 720p.

Overall, the TV’s performance was fine. I’d even say the picture was too pretty for PC mode. But is it the perfect television set for gaming? My guess is no. But it works well enough for my needs.
post #233 of 426
Hey Edge, I talked to corporate at bestbuy online and they do in fact have the sets. They told me the website would be updated within 5dys in thanks to letting them know their link was off. Your local store can order a set for you through the OMS system(what they told me to tell the store) or you can have a store check what other stores have it in stock through the TV model.

Like I told someone else, the IR on my ST50 is crazy stupid. Watched a Netflix movie with bars recently and now I've had my bordelands HUD+black bars on my screen for the last couple of hours. I am choosing the e6500 since it is practically the same tv minus the dual core at currently a nice price.
post #234 of 426
I noticed on a completely white screen a very faint blackish smear mark in the middle of the screen, about 4 inches diagonally. Can't see anything whilst watching normal TV, but occasionally if i look carefully on pan of the sky or white background you can faintly see it. Is this normal ? Should I return the set again ? Is this considered a problem under warranty? My previous set I returned due to buzzing -had faint black smear marks throughout the entire screen and was very distracting on image pans etc. This TV is perfect expect for this flaw, what should I do?
post #235 of 426
Well my local best buy could not order the e6500 so I decided to take a hit on 4" and went from the 55ST50(horrible IR ALL the time) and went to the 51e7000. I had to order it so it will be in 3-5days. The $200bb gc made it a little bit easier for me. I am a super excited, let down by the smaller screen but gives me reason to eventually upgrade to a 60" or larger and move the 51" to the bedroom.
Just wanted to let y'all know I am not a proud owner of a new 6500 but glad to be with the Samsung fam. I know no TV is perfect, so fingers crossed for no buzzing but ill take that over the crazy IR this damn ST50 had.
post #236 of 426
bearzfan1963, can you post a photo?
post #237 of 426
tried to take photo but nothing was showing - even with flash off.
post #238 of 426
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Originally Posted by bearzfan1963 View Post

I noticed on a completely white screen a very faint blackish smear mark in the middle of the screen, about 4 inches diagonally. Can't see anything whilst watching normal TV, but occasionally if i look carefully on pan of the sky or white background you can faintly see it. Is this normal ? Should I return the set again ? Is this considered a problem under warranty? My previous set I returned due to buzzing -had faint black smear marks throughout the entire screen and was very distracting on image pans etc. This TV is perfect expect for this flaw, what should I do?

If it's distracting you from enjoying that expensive TV, then I would definitely return it if I were you.
On the other hand, I had the exact same thing with my last TV -- and I've never heard anyone else having this happen until now. It looked like somebody had eaten a pulled pork sandwich and then ran their finger diagonally across the right-ish middle of the screen, but on the INside. It was completely unmistakable when the screen was a solid light color (like white, or the blue that showed when there was no signal), but it was almost never noticeable otherwise, so I chose to live with it rather than go through the trouble of return shipping.
post #239 of 426
another question for everyone here, I noticed on a completed white screen a faint reddish tint in the center, left and right areas of the screen. Once i noticed this I started seeing a bit more red in skin tones and the white lines on a football field had a very faint red tint to them.
I am using movie mode and never had the tv calibrated. The red tint is much less when the tv is in relax mode.

Is this a white balance problem? Can Samsung fix this or do I need a new screen?
post #240 of 426
bearzfan1963, you should exchange your TV if it's bothers you. Although my TV doesn't have the symptoms you describe, it doesn't have complete screen uniformity on a white screen either. No TV is going to be perfect. But if it's bad enough that it ruins the experience of watching normal programming, send it back.
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