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post #271 of 580
Man I love your set-up,what is the depth of your speakers?
post #272 of 580
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Originally Posted by DeenMartin View Post

Man I love your set-up,what is the depth of your speakers?
To whom are you asking this question?

Wrooster
post #273 of 580
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

No, 240hz would not have anything to do with that " shadowing" you are seeing, if you saw motion blur then yes 240hz would help but otherwise no.
Let me ask you think, what do you have the backlight set to in 3D Mode? is it still at 10 or you changed it? is black adjust enabled or disabled, whats dynamic contrast set to in 3D mode?
make sure sharpness is no more than 20.

I'm using your settings. I think its a combination of things:

- The 3d source. I've watched a few demos which didn't have any issues, and honestly looked better than most of the 3d movies I have. Althought Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland still looks fantastic. Some movies are just better at 3d than others, I'm finding.
- The 3d is just a little different on this set. I've noticed that the glasses don't bother my eyes as much as they did on my Panasonic Plasma, which is definitely a plus.

I'm ok with the 3d on this. It's not perfect, but I can see how the technology is still growing. Maybe I'll be in the market for a new set again next year. That said, I do have a couple of other questions about the set and best viewing settings.

What's the best videogame settings? Currently I have it on dynamic and smooth auto-motion. I *really* like what the smooth auto-motion does for gaming, and I haven't noticed any lag. Dynamic seems to give me more graphic clarity. I have the contrast at 50 and the backlight at 12. Is that too high? Coming from a plasma with burn-in and image retention issues, I am highly worried about using any settings that will damage the set after a long gaming session. (I am also still highly ticked off at Panasonic for defaulting their "game" mode to 100 contrast)

What's the best setting for normal blu-ray watching?
post #274 of 580
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Originally Posted by Alpha OTS View Post

I'm using your settings. I think its a combination of things:
- The 3d source. I've watched a few demos which didn't have any issues, and honestly looked better than most of the 3d movies I have. Althought Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland still looks fantastic. Some movies are just better at 3d than others, I'm finding.
- The 3d is just a little different on this set. I've noticed that the glasses don't bother my eyes as much as they did on my Panasonic Plasma, which is definitely a plus.
I'm ok with the 3d on this. It's not perfect, but I can see how the technology is still growing. Maybe I'll be in the market for a new set again next year. That said, I do have a couple of other questions about the set and best viewing settings.
What's the best videogame settings? Currently I have it on dynamic and smooth auto-motion. I *really* like what the smooth auto-motion does for gaming, and I haven't noticed any lag. Dynamic seems to give me more graphic clarity. I have the contrast at 50 and the backlight at 12. Is that too high? Coming from a plasma with burn-in and image retention issues, I am highly worried about using any settings that will damage the set after a long gaming session. (I am also still highly ticked off at Panasonic for defaulting their "game" mode to 100 contrast)
What's the best setting for normal blu-ray watching?

What does "Smooth" do for gaming that Standard Doesnt? just wondering...

also , Dynamic mode is really for store showrooms and is basically a TORCH mode. but u can use it if u like it..

contrast shouldn't be at 50, it should be either 100 or somewhere next to 100.., the backlight is fine at 12 i guess.. me personally, im using backlight at 7 for 2D MODE and 10 for 3D Mode, backlight at 12 isn't going to give u very good black levels in darkness, if you play with ambient light then the blacks will be fine..
post #275 of 580
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Originally Posted by wrooster View Post

To whom are you asking this question?
Wrooster

Sorry dude I belive it was your setup.
post #276 of 580
Hey guys, these of you that use the TV's Built in Speakers, what speaker setting do you use? i noticed that the SRS HD setting is only available when STANDARD is the selected sound preset, Movie sounds pretty good too but it loses the benefit of SRS HD right?
post #277 of 580
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

What does "Smooth" do for gaming that Standard Doesnt? just wondering...
also , Dynamic mode is really for store showrooms and is basically a TORCH mode. but u can use it if u like it..
contrast shouldn't be at 50, it should be either 100 or somewhere next to 100.., the backlight is fine at 12 i guess.. me personally, im using backlight at 7 for 2D MODE and 10 for 3D Mode, backlight at 12 isn't going to give u very good black levels in darkness, if you play with ambient light then the blacks will be fine..
Is Dynamic a torch mode because it defaults to 100 contrast and a high backlight level? Or is it dynamic itself that torches? My Panasonic "Game" mode torched my set because it defaulted the contrast to 100, not because of whatever fliter the "Game" mode used. I'm hesitant to set contrast to a high level from here on out because of that, plus I think 50 looks fine.

I can definitely see a difference between Standard and Smooth while gaming. I've been playing Borderlands 2(a first person shoooter), and Smooth looks much more fluid than Standard does. I notice it much more when I'm slowly looking around, but even when running I can see the difference. It's probaby the best thing I like about the set so far. I can see why people don't like Smooth outside of gaming. That's the "soap opera" effect, right?

Also, what setting is it that adjusts auto-adjusts the brightness level? I've noticed when I was going through my desktop computer on the tv, that the brightness setting would change relative to the amount of white on the screen.
post #278 of 580
that setting is the eco sensor,

what makes dynamic mode torch is the mode itself, regards to contrast , set it to 100 , 50 is way too Low.

question for you, what do you have your speaker settings set to?
post #279 of 580
Hi everyone. New to the forum, but thought I should go ahead and join because I'm getting ready to buy a new TV. Right now, it is between the Samsung UN46ES6500 and the Sony BRAVIA KDL46HX750. It's come down to those sets due to: price, size, active 3d, led, and review scores. Based on the reviews I've read, what I've read on this forum, and what I've seen of both screens in person at Best Buy, I want to want the Samsung. I think it looks better than the Sony set.

But here's my problem. In the last two years:
I've bought two Samsung LCD monitors. One died prematurely.
My father in law bought a Samsung led (not sure of the model) 46" tv. It is currently dying. He has been told it isn't worth fixing.
A friend bought a Samsung LCD monitor. It died.

So I have some serious reservations about the durability of Samsung screens. If that wasn't an issue, it would be Samsung hands down.

So I'm curious if anyone here has some longer term experience with Samsungs that might just show my family and friends have just had bad luck with them.

Also, my plan currently is to wait until Black Friday/Cyber Monday to see if any good deals come along. Am I wasting my time? Should I expect good deals on sets like these?
post #280 of 580
Errr...I think I have a problem with the set.

While gaming tonight, I'm noticing that green trails whatever black is on the screen while I'm turning the camera to look around. Did I not notice this before?
post #281 of 580
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Originally Posted by Alpha OTS View Post

Also, what setting is it that adjusts auto-adjusts the brightness level? I've noticed when I was going through my desktop computer on the tv, that the brightness setting would change relative to the amount of white on the screen.

Can be the eco-sensor, but also the stupid CE Dimming that's always on except in movie mode. Previously, CE Dimming setting was available in the service menu but now it's not. That's the only thing I hate with this TV, because in game mode the only available picture setting is "Standard" and CE Dimming is on. Hope someone hack the firmware and put the feature back in the service menu.

I've contacted Samsung service and the guy had no idea what I was talking about...
post #282 of 580
Ok, I need some help.

I've been watching some blurays, and the picture just looks all wrong. I have this sneaking suspicion that the auto motion isn't working properly or something else is not set right. I'm using a ps3 as my bluray player. What hz should the PS3 be outputting? Currently it's outputting 24hz.(1920x1080 / 24p). I just changed it to 60hz, but I'm not seeing anything much different.

Here's the issue. Any dark scenes or scenes with lots of black and movement I'm seeing a shade of green in the black as it moves across the screen. The picture just doesn't look crisp either. I first noticed this while gaming and my character was in a dark cavern. As I'd turn to look around anything that was black or dark would turn greenish as I'd look around. This is the first serious bluray viewing I've been doing. I see it even in characters hair as they turn their heads. If its a bright scene, everything looks great. I can't tell for 100% certain if this was there all along and I just didn't notice, or if this is something that has recently changed and that's why I'm seeing it.

If someone could give me some good general bluray settings, that would help. Any other advice would be helpful too, or tests I could run to see where the issue lies. I'm planning on going back to Best Buy to discuss the problem.

Edit: I've also already tried restoring the factory settings.
post #283 of 580
Alpha - return your set asap. This is a known issue, specifically with 60" models. I tried two sets and then decided to go to a different manufacturer.
post #284 of 580
bought the 32 inch 6500 - cannot get it to connect to Nextflix - the set does not give me a activation code. I have reset the thing countless times, tried eberthing I had seen on the internet that folks have done to get the set to give me a code - but no luck. Suggestions?
post #285 of 580
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Originally Posted by luvdalude View Post

Alpha - return your set asap. This is a known issue, specifically with 60" models. I tried two sets and then decided to go to a different manufacturer.
I was futzing with the settings again today, and I swear it was either getting worse, or I was getting a better eye at seeing it. I decided to go back to Best Buy and discuss my options. They're picking up the 6500 next Saturday and dropping off the 7100. I didn't want to stay with the same manufacturer, but there's not many options through Best Buy for a 60" LED. 60" really fits my living room perfectly, and I didn't want to go smaller. My previous tv, a plasma panasonic GT30 had burn in and image retention issues, so I'm put off by plasmas. I'm hoping the 7100 will have the better insides for all the other bells and whistles it has. Plus I still have the 2yr extended warranty which they said would cover me if I go past the next 30 day return period. Best Buy was pretty helpful. They tried to sell me on the passive LG, but I keep reading active is where its at, and the LG only goes up to 55".
post #286 of 580
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Originally Posted by tivoboy View Post

Dave, don't take this the wrong way. I know you tempered your post with an "all screens are different" caveat
but these settings make my set, from HDMI from a directv DVR showing HD at 720p or 1080i/p, seem really GREY and washed out. If that is the case, does it seem like an issue with ones screen, or just the combination of DVR to HDMI to Sammy?

Well, it shouldn't seem "really GREY and washed out", at all. It should seem realistic (i.e., football field is not going to look neon green - it'll look the color of real grass; faces aren't going to look sunburned - they'll look basically white; but a stop sign is going to be rich red.). Don't know what to tell you other than check every setting. Sounds like your color control is way down.

I have updated the calibration. I think I've got it as close as this TV is going to get. Samsung's color space just isn't as wide as the REC709 reference. And LED black levels are what they are. I'll post the new settings soon, after I watch them for a couple days.
post #287 of 580
Dave, do you have your xbox360/ps3 or any other device set to output at REC709 or RGB Mode?

im debating what to set my Xbox360 to output, either RGB or REC709, and what to set the reference level to on the xbox 360, standard, intermidiate or expanded, on the tv hdmi black level is set to LOW

my PS3 is set to REC709 as that gives optimal PQ to both games and Movies, im just not sure about the Xbox 360..
post #288 of 580
Does anyone have a recommendation for a slim wall mount for either the 50 or 55 inch versions of this set? I was considering it, but after reading about the power plug placement on the rear of the unit interfering with wall mounts I backed out of considering it. Surely there is a good solution. Thanks for you input in advance.
post #289 of 580
I finally got my system hooked up after a fiasco with my wiring under my house. Right now I have everything in my closet 40' away runing HDCable box, Panasonic BDT500, and Cable modem to a Denon 2113ci all via HDMI then a 40' redmere hdmi cable to the un60es6500. My question, is this the right way to hook everything up without losing any video and sound quality? I think since I'm so paranoid about the connection it seems like some dvds are faded in color and some aren't. From my understanding it's either I'm getting perfect connection or nothing? I calibrated my HDTV as best as I could however I also see dozens of other setting options in my receiver and my bluray player... should I be adjusting those as well or just my HDTV?
post #290 of 580
So.. I pulled a total rookie move.

I went into the service menu and then I accidentally changed either the "front color" or "type" under "options" and now my screen is upside down.

I've searched all over the net and cant find a solution (Can't locate hflip or hvflip?)

Would anyone happen to know the default settings?
post #291 of 580
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Originally Posted by lamonsasa View Post

Dave, do you have your xbox360/ps3 or any other device set to output at REC709 or RGB Mode?
im debating what to set my Xbox360 to output, either RGB or REC709, and what to set the reference level to on the xbox 360, standard, intermidiate or expanded, on the tv hdmi black level is set to LOW
my PS3 is set to REC709 as that gives optimal PQ to both games and Movies, im just not sure about the Xbox 360..

I don't know what the settings are called on an Xbox (every manufacturer calls these something different).

But on a PS3...

for when it sends out an RGB encoded signal (i.e., the menu screen, or playing games) you want it to use 16-235 "video" levels (as opposed to 0-256 "PC" levels). To accomplish this, go into the PS3 display settings and set RGB Full Range to "limited". You should likewise set your TV to expect to receive RBG signals that are 16-235 (on a Samsung TV you do this by setting HDMI black level to "low").

but for when it plays video (i.e., playing a DVD or blu ray) you want it to use a YCC encoded signal (as opposed to an RGB encoded signal). To accomplish this, go into the PS3 video settings and set Bluray output format to "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr". YCC signals do not have this issue about 0-255 versus 16-235. It's always 16-235. (Which is why, on a Samsung TV, when it's receiving a YCC signal, the HDMI black level setting is grayed out).


I am pretty sure all cable boxes output in YCC format. I know FIOS does, which is why the Samsung HDMI black level control is grayed out.


Hope this helps.
post #292 of 580
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So.. I pulled a total rookie move.

I went into the service menu and then I accidentally changed either the "front color" or "type" under "options" and now my screen is upside down.

I've searched all over the net and cant find a solution (Can't locate hflip or hvflip?)

Would anyone happen to know the default settings?

I figured it out!

For others needing help.. this thread was huge:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1294904/samsung-panel-version-thread

my type was 65L1AF6E for my 65" 6500
Edited by jscupa - 10/23/12 at 9:29pm
post #293 of 580
Recently got everything hooked up and I can't stand the flashlighting on the edges... I mean this can't be normal or what samsung thinks is ok. I've been on the live chat with samsung getting no where for a few hours and now they are telling me the same thing as the previous posters. I have to wait a week now on brightness level 7 and if that doesn't work I'll have to file a service request... what a joke... anybody ever get the issue resolved?
post #294 of 580
I just had a visit by a samsung tech because of the flashlighting in the corners. they did not ask me to do the 7 setting like you. They just sent someone out immediately. I called just yesterday.

well, the guy came and screwed around and saw the flashlighting that t I saw, took a few photos, and ran off. he said i'd get a call in the next 2 days with options.
post #295 of 580
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Originally Posted by shinerburke View Post

Does anyone have a recommendation for a slim wall mount for either the 50 or 55 inch versions of this set? I was considering it, but after reading about the power plug placement on the rear of the unit interfering with wall mounts I backed out of considering it. Surely there is a good solution. Thanks for you input in advance.
See
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1401438/official-samsung-unxxes6500-owners-thread#post_22055366

No problem whatsoever with the power plug.

Wrooster
post #296 of 580
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Originally Posted by DeenMartin View Post

Man I love your set-up,what is the depth of your speakers?
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Originally Posted by wrooster View Post

To whom are you asking this question?r
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Originally Posted by DeenMartin View Post

Sorry dude I belive it was your setup.
I guess I am confused about how to answer your question. Practically all in-wall speakers are designed to be installed in typical USA residential drywall over stick-and-frame construction -- that is, generally there is 3-1/2" depth available (assuming 2x4 studs), plus the thickness of the drywall (which is nominally 1/2" and optionally 5/8"). The BIC Acoustech HT-8W speakers I installed in the wall, pictured here, are no exception to this -- they do not exceed the total 4" depth noted above.

You can see more information on this particular speaker:
http://www.bicamerica.com/showpage.php?brand=1&type=9&spkrID=27

Wrooster
post #297 of 580
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Originally Posted by dave999z View Post

I don't know what the settings are called on an Xbox (every manufacturer calls these something different).
But on a PS3...
for when it sends out an RGB encoded signal (i.e., the menu screen, or playing games) you want it to use 16-235 "video" levels (as opposed to 0-256 "PC" levels). To accomplish this, go into the PS3 display settings and set RGB Full Range to "limited". You should likewise set your TV to expect to receive RBG signals that are 16-235 (on a Samsung TV you do this by setting HDMI black level to "low").
but for when it plays video (i.e., playing a DVD or blu ray) you want it to use a YCC encoded signal (as opposed to an RGB encoded signal). To accomplish this, go into the PS3 video settings and set Bluray output format to "Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr". YCC signals do not have this issue about 0-255 versus 16-235. It's always 16-235. (Which is why, on a Samsung TV, when it's receiving a YCC signal, the HDMI black level setting is grayed out).
I am pretty sure all cable boxes output in YCC format. I know FIOS does, which is why the Samsung HDMI black level control is grayed out.
Hope this helps.
I agree with you on everything except the RGB part. When playing games I want the full color and no clipping so in RGB mode I suggest the 0-255 with TV set to normal. Why do you want to lose details in shadows and highlights?

lamonsasa, on XBOX the reference level are:
- standard: 16-235 (set TV HDMI black level to "Low")
- expanded: 0-255, the full RBG color range (set TV HDMI black level to "Normal")
post #298 of 580
I have had the Samsung UN60ES6500 for a couple weeks now, and thought I was going crazy with the green trails. It appears as trails on darker scenes on contrasts lines in motion like the edge of faces and around eyes and it hair. It drives me nuts, but my girlfriend can't see it at all. Does anyone know if this is only on the 60" ?? I will be fine with a 55" if it is. With this problem and the aweful crosstalk on 3D, the set has to go back. The room is too bright for glossy screens, so not sure what to get now....
post #299 of 580
Thanks for the info. If you have time could you let me know what he says when he gets back with you?
post #300 of 580
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Originally Posted by LRC253 View Post

Thanks for the info. If you have time could you let me know what he says when he gets back with you?

They called me today and told me it's within spec to have flashlight beams coming from each corner and a big white splotch in the bottom middle of the screen.

they won't do anything. disappointing to say the least. I tried calling samsung, but they very clearly really dont care and just shrugged me off.
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