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post #31 of 326
3/25/12 at 4:43pm
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

7600 has the same full array. edge and back light and local dimming. thats what LED+ is.

I wasn't lashing out, I was correcting you. You are giving false information. The LM7600 is EDGE-lit, NOT back-lit. The LM9600 is a full array backlight(back-lit). If you want to know a little about LG's LED's, just ask. I've owned the LG LV 9500 Nano LED and I own the 55LHX, which is LG's Holy Grail. Happy hunting for a new TV.
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post #32 of 326
3/25/12 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Threefiddie View Post

7600 has the same full array. edge and back light and local dimming. thats what LED+ is.

Not sure where the confusion is coming in but only the 9600 is full array backlit with nano led. The 7600 is edge lit with local dimming which is less accurate but still better than global dimming for example.

Here are info pages from the UK. The model numbers are different but you can guess which is which.

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A NEW TYPE OF TV

The pinnacle of LED technology, NANO FULL LED TV delivers a clearer, smoother picture by evenly spreading the lights emitted by each LED. The result? A brighter, clearer, smoother picture than ever before.

http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/...v-55LM960V.jsp

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TAKE TOTAL CONTROL OF YOUR PICTURE

LG’s LED Plus technology means a suitably equipped screen is able to dim unused parts of the screen – during a particularly dark scene for example – to create deeper blacks and therefore greater contrast than conventional LCD/LED TVs

http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-audio-video/...v-55LM760T.jsp

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post #33 of 326
3/25/12 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

I belive the nano LED has much smaller dimming zones. This would reduce halos and produce better uniforminty.

Also I'm sure LG has done some software improvements to the LM9600 series to futher improve PQ.

According to a link posted earlier or maybe it was in my googling the 60 inch will not be "nano".
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post #34 of 326
3/25/12 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

According to a link posted earlier or maybe it was in my googling the 60 inch will not be "nano".

I have not seen a 60" LM9600, but the 84" 9600 will not have nano LED, but it does have 4K.

Has anyone else seen the 9600? I would really like to know how it compaires to the ES8000.
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post #35 of 326
3/25/12 at 5:16pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

I have not seen a 60" LM9600, but the 84" 9600 will not have nano LED, but it does have 4K.

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-33379_1-573...-to-60-inches/
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post #36 of 326
3/25/12 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-33379_1-573...-to-60-inches/

Thats interesting. I can see why it might be hard to put nano LED into an 84", but I don't understand why they couldn't do it for the 60", it's only 5" bigger than the 55".
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post #37 of 326
3/25/12 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by Frank Benign View Post

gosugadget,

Thanks for the review.

Is it less reflective than the LX9500, LW9500 - the flagships of the past 2 years? Does it have a glass pane front like they did?

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Originally Posted by Frank Benign View Post

In most of the reviews I've seen, LG is lambasted for poor contrast and lauded for viewing angles and colour accuracy (often out of the box).

LG opted for the glossy screen over the matte (lw5600) with the LM9600. From the sides, the screen does give off reflection however when you view directly from the front or somewhat in the front, the reflections are barely visible, (just like the panasonic VT/Gt 30).

I agree LG has had poor contrast with certain TV models ( LX series and lower end LW series) but the LM9600 has much more pop in my eyes.
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post #38 of 326
3/25/12 at 6:21pm
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Originally Posted by gosugadget View Post

LG opted for the glossy screen over the matte (lw5600) with the LM9600. From the sides, the screen does give off reflection however when you view directly from the front or somewhat in the front, the reflections are barely visible, (just like the panasonic VT/Gt 30).

But does it have a pane of glass in front of the panel like the LX9500, or does it simply have a glossy coating on the panel itself like most Samsung models?
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post #39 of 326
3/25/12 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

I have not seen a 60" LM9600, but the 84" 9600 will not have nano LED, but it does have 4K.

Has anyone else seen the 9600? I would really like to know how it compaires to the ES8000.

I saw both at CES and the 9600 was almost as good as the OLED.
I was not very impressed by the ES8000.
Mind you that was the 55" 9600 and I am also hoping that LG doesn't cut the zones as no one at the CES show was able to give me a positive answer as to how many zones they are using. LG put out a set in 2011 with only 88 zones and it looked great at the CES show, but lousy in the store. Just have to wait and see.
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post #40 of 326
3/25/12 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

I saw both at CES and the 9600 was almost as good as the OLED.
I was not very impressed by the ES8000.
Mind you that was the 55" 9600 and I am also hoping that LG doesn't cut the zones as no one at the CES show was able to give me a positive answer as to how many zones they are using. LG put out a set in 2011 with only 88 zones and it looked great at the CES show, but lousy in the store. Just have to wait and see.

Hey Konica, isn't the Nano plate, that LG is using, made to work so that they can use less zones? I was thinking that they are relying on the plates' dispersion of light, so they can use less zones and save money. I hope this isn't true by the way
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post #41 of 326
3/25/12 at 7:58pm
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Originally Posted by Dianabol5mg View Post

Hey Konica, isn't the Nano plate, that LG is using, made to work so that they can use less zones? I was thinking that they are relying on the plates' dispersion of light, so they can use less zones and save money. I hope this isn't true by the way

I was told that it uses less LED bulbs per zone, but I only understood it that depending on the screen size using the 55" it would have 288 zones. The problem is at CES they do not hand out specs in writing and very little info is even posted in the TV area so I could not even photograph any specs.
The 9600 I saw at CES was fantastic and maybe even better than my LHX,
definate better than the LV9500. And add in the passive 3D makes me very interested in purchasing one.
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post #42 of 326
3/26/12 at 5:18am
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

I was told that it uses less LED bulbs per zone, but I only understood it that depending on the screen size using the 55" it would have 288 zones. The problem is at CES they do not hand out specs in writing and very little info is even posted in the TV area so I could not even photograph any specs.
The 9600 I saw at CES was fantastic and maybe even better than my LHX,
definate better than the LV9500. And add in the passive 3D makes me very interested in purchasing one.

I am totally with you. If this is better than my LHX, i'm going to have to start selling stuff off. And plead with my wife.
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post #43 of 326
3/26/12 at 9:39am
I see there IS a 60LM9600 but it doesn't use nano LED. Is nano LED any better or is it just used for a thinner cabinet?
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post #44 of 326
3/26/12 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

I see there IS a 60LM9600 but it doesn't use nano LED. Is nano LED any better or is it just used for a thinner cabinet?

Nano LED is way better. When you have the time, look at this video:

That video was from last year, so I'm sure LG has improved the tech further sense then. If you really care about PQ over size, I would recomend going for the 55" (includes nano LED), which is not that much smaller than a 60".

BTW, owners of ES8000 TV's have been plauged by horrible viewing angles, and some owners have even reported banding and uneven uniformity. LG may have won this year. I just hope the LM9600 is as good as it sounds.
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post #45 of 326
3/26/12 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

Nano LED is way better. When you have the time, look at this video:

That video was from last year, so I'm sure LG has improved the tech further sense then. If you really care about PQ over size, I would recomend going for the 55" (includes nano LED), which is not that much smaller than a 60".

BTW, owners of ES8000 TV's have been plauged by horrible viewing angles, and some owners have even reported banding and uneven uniformity. LG may have won this year. I just hope the LM9600 is as good as it sounds.

Nice vid, thanks. Yea I think I'm going to go with the 55LM9600. I feel like I'll have less issues than I'm having with my D7900/8000. The flashlighting & minor clouding is annoying me! My friend I mentioned above said I'm looking at the second week of April for this TV. So I guess the sites that said April, 9 were pretty much on point. He also told me how much he could give it to me for but I obviously can't post that
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post #46 of 326
3/26/12 at 5:55pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

Nano LED is way better. When you have the time, look at this video:

It depends. the only Nano LED on the market is/was the LW9800, which is a totally failure. I believe the model is discontinued soon after on the market.
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post #47 of 326
3/26/12 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by jh87 View Post

It depends. the only Nano LED on the market is/was the LW9800, which is a totally failure. I believe the model is discontinued soon after on the market.

the 55LV9500 is NANO backlight but was released as a 2D set which a lot of members found could be upgraded to active 3D. It does use 288 zones and gives a great picture.
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post #48 of 326
3/26/12 at 7:02pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

Nano LED is way better. When you have the time, look at this video:

That video was from last year, so I'm sure LG has improved the tech further sense then. If you really care about PQ over size, I would recomend going for the 55" (includes nano LED), which is not that much smaller than a 60".

BTW, owners of ES8000 TV's have been plauged by horrible viewing angles, and some owners have even reported banding and uneven uniformity. LG may have won this year. I just hope the LM9600 is as good as it sounds.

IF their regular LED's were so inferior why would they screw up the LM9600 60 inch by not offering NANO? My guess is they can achieve the same lighting results with placement/technology and not have the thinness that is "NANO".
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post #49 of 326
3/26/12 at 7:46pm
Definitely keeping my eye on this. My uncle is looking for a new tv after his dlp stopped working (tried replacing the bulb, but it still did not work).

He liked the Panasonic es8000 and sony HX929 at the store. I told him the Sony would be good if he needed it now. I also told him if he could wait a couple more weeks, this LG and the Panasonic WT50 should be out. The only tough part is then the strict pricing kicks in for Samsung and Sony on April 1st. I was just at Best Buy today and they had the HX929 for less than advertised in the weekly ad. Very tempted to tell him to get that since there is the 30 day return window (although I am not sure he is comfortable doing that, since he would rather purchase once and be done with it).

At the store I have not really been all that impressed with the LG's since the LH90. Then again the LH90 was the first tv that caught my attention, and seemed to be a good value for the price.
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post #50 of 326
3/26/12 at 9:23pm
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Originally Posted by 77Pat View Post

Definitely keeping my eye on this. My uncle is looking for a new tv after his dlp stopped working (tried replacing the bulb, but it still did not work).

He liked the Panasonic es8000 and sony HX929 at the store. I told him the Sony would be good if he needed it now. I also told him if he could wait a couple more weeks, this LG and the Panasonic WT50 should be out. The only tough part is then the strict pricing kicks in for Samsung and Sony on April 1st. I was just at Best Buy today and they had the HX929 for less than advertised in the weekly ad. Very tempted to tell him to get that since there is the 30 day return window (although I am not sure he is comfortable doing that, since he would rather purchase once and be done with it).

At the store I have not really been all that impressed with the LG's since the LH90. Then again the LH90 was the first tv that caught my attention, and seemed to be a good value for the price.

Just so you know, the LG LM9600 is actually cheaper than the Samsung ES8000. I'm a Samsung fan, but LG may take the crown this year. Sign me up for a 47" 9600.
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post #51 of 326
3/27/12 at 8:20am
Still nothing on this TV....Amazon doesn't even have a preorder. Is that how it usually is with LG? They just pop up out of nowhere in a store?
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post #52 of 326
3/27/12 at 9:36am
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

the 55LV9500 is NANO backlight but was released as a 2D set which a lot of members found could be upgraded to active 3D. It does use 288 zones and gives a great picture.

Yes, the 55LV9500 is NANO panel but it is not passive 3d. there are several full array active 3D sets available on the market, and LV9500 is not the major player among them.

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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

IF their regular LED's were so inferior why would they screw up the LM9600 60 inch by not offering NANO? My guess is they can achieve the same lighting results with placement/technology and not have the thinness that is "NANO".

I don't understand why LG care about the thinness so much. The most possible reason that the LW9800 failed to deliver the 288 zones is said to be that the NANO unable to do passive 3D within its thinness. I think people who look for high end sets like these care about the PQ more than the thinness.
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post #53 of 326
3/27/12 at 10:46am
Bad news guys, I contacted LG to find out the release date and they wrote me back saying, August for the 55LM9600. *sigh*
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post #54 of 326
3/27/12 at 12:04pm
Maybe they are confused and thinking you meant the EM9600 (OLED). releasecentral.com still has it as April 9th. The LG US site just populated the new 8000 series in the last couple of days, I know those were not on there until very recently. Don't give up hope, it could still happen !!
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post #55 of 326
3/27/12 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

Bad news guys, I contacted LG to find out the release date and they wrote me back saying, August for the 55LM9600. *sigh*

Ive talked to LG about a dozen times and they continued to say August. BHphoto site says expected availability Aug 31.

so we just went ahead with the 7600 model
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post #56 of 326
3/27/12 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by TIME2PLAYDAGAME View Post

Bad news guys, I contacted LG to find out the release date and they wrote me back saying, August for the 55LM9600. *sigh*

damnit, might as well wait until black friday, gahhh.. this is the TV that I want
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post #57 of 326
3/27/12 at 12:34pm
Does anyone else notice that there seems to be 2 different stand designs for the 9600 and the 8600? On this link (http://flatpanelshd.com/news.php?sub...&id=1332421033) the 9600 has a really nice 2 legged stand. On other sites, the 9600 has the same stand as the lower models.

Can anyone confirm which stand is official? Are the stand designs different for different countrys?

I really like the one on flatpanelsHD.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the officail release date for the 9600 is April 9th. However, I wouldn't be supprised if LG only launched the 47" 9600 and waited until August to release the larger sizes to boost sales for their 55" OLED.
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post #58 of 326
3/27/12 at 2:27pm
Here's exactly what he said...He mentions the LM8600 bc I had to choose a model number.

Thank you for contacting LG Electronics. I am delighted to hear from you as our valued customer, I do apologize for any inconvenience you may have experienced.
It looks like the LM8600 was just released and should be in major retailers soon. The LM9600 looks like it should be released to the market in August.
I hope this information is helpful, please do not hesitate to contact us back if you have any other inquiry. I will gladly assist you.
Thank you for contacting LG and please enjoy the rest of your day.


That's terrible. I guess I'll stick with my D7900/8000 and switch it out in August.
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post #59 of 326
3/27/12 at 4:11pm
I have this tv! My LG lv9500 just has diffrent numbers!
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post #60 of 326
3/27/12 at 5:19pm
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

Does anyone else notice that there seems to be 2 different stand designs for the 9600 and the 8600? On this link (http://flatpanelshd.com/news.php?sub...&id=1332421033) the 9600 has a really nice 2 legged stand. On other sites, the 9600 has the same stand as the lower models.

Can anyone confirm which stand is official? Are the stand designs different for different countrys?

I really like the one on flatpanelsHD.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the officail release date for the 9600 is April 9th. However, I wouldn't be supprised if LG only launched the 47" 9600 and waited until August to release the larger sizes to boost sales for their 55" OLED.

The stands are the same. All the LM series TVs that are 55" and up come with a retractable TV stand as well (for standing TVs). Design wise, the main difference between the 9600 and the other models is the thickness of the bottom part of the TV, where the logo is. The LM9600 is slightly darker in this area and thinner. The 8600 and down have a thicker and more "chromier" look. It is my understanding that the current stand you see in my review will also be the main option for the OLED TV as well also provided with the optional stands.
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