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post #1 of 24
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Was surfing the channel guide last night and came across "Ground Hog Day" on CMT. Being one of my favorite movies I decided to watch for a minute or two until the next basketball game started. The scene I tuned to was in the diner when Bill Murray ("Phil") is telling Andie MacDowell ("Rita") that he is a "god" and then begins walking around the diner telling everyone's history. He comes to the waiter "Bill" - "Phil" gives his history and the last line is "and he is gay". On CMT it seemed to me they deleted out "gay". Perhaps it was an audio glitch, but it was the only one and it was right on "gay". Anyone else notice? Is CMT like that newspaper service that used to change the word "gay" to "homosexual" only to get caught when American sprinter Michael Gay set a new record and everyone on that service received the headline "Homosexual Sets New Record".
post #2 of 24
What was a MOVIE doing on Country Music Television anyways? Have they become like MTV now?
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

What was a MOVIE doing on Country Music Television anyways? Have they become like MTV now?

if by 'now' you mean 10+ years ago when CMT was bought by Viacom...
post #4 of 24
Someone please post:

"Remember when mtv actually played music".


even though they really still do in the mornings
post #5 of 24
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

Someone please post:

"Remember when mtv actually played music".


even though they really still do in the mornings

One of my earliest memories is watching "Money for Nothing" with my Dad on MTV.

I'm looking through tvguide.com and not seeing MTV playing any music videos at all, ever. MTV2 does very late at night/early mornings. Edit: Ah, I take that back, they play AMTV("insert some weird thing here"), from about 1 to 4 AM, but not on weekends.
post #6 of 24
I remember sitting in front of the TV watching CMT/MTV for hours at a time. My generation was learning about and being inspired by music. Today's generation does the same but they are learning how to drink, fight, f*, and get knocked up at 14. Guess it's where the money is. It's criminal.
post #7 of 24
In before Jedimaster makes his usual post about how you can buy this movie on DVD/Blu-Ray/Netflix/etc uncut, he's glad he doesn't pay for cable/sat to watch edited movies with popup logos/watermark logos/etc, how OTA shows the same edited movies for free, etc etc etc.

No offense Jedi. Just couldn't resist beating you to your typical anti-cable/sat post.
post #8 of 24
I cut the cable and am glad not to be going back.
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by mp3trojan View Post

I remember sitting in front of the TV watching CMT/MTV for hours at a time. My generation was learning about and being inspired by music. Today's generation does the same but they are learning how to drink, fight, f*, and get knocked up at 14. Guess it's where the money is. It's criminal.

So you think that sitting for hours in front of the big box with moving images is somehow more dignified and useful for the nation's progress than "learning how to drink, fight, f*, and get knocked up at 14"?
post #10 of 24
Indeed you can get this movie on Blu-Ray cheap. If I'm paying for a channel called Country Music Television, I expect to see country music on it! (I'm not even a fan of country music, but if I were forced to pay for this channel that's still what I'd expect to see on it! Show the movies on the movie channels, uncut!)
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

So you think that sitting for hours in front of the big box with moving images is somehow more dignified and useful for the nation's progress than "learning how to drink, fight, f*, and get knocked up at 14"?

I'm not sure I understand your question. What's this have to do with the "Nation's Progress" I'm done with the off-topic rant. Just sharing my memories and stating my opinion on how MTV has totally went in the toilet as far as exposing our children to this immoral trash.
post #12 of 24
I'm still waiting for the day I see Crank Yankers aired on Syfy

Maybe reruns of Gilligan's Island on the Food Network...
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

Indeed you can get this movie on Blu-Ray cheap. If I'm paying for a channel called Country Music Television, I expect to see country music on it! (I'm not even a fan of country music, but if I were forced to pay for this channel that's still what I'd expect to see on it! Show the movies on the movie channels, uncut!)

Well there is network called " The Country Network" that is available OTA that actually plays music. In my area it's a subchannel on WNAB out of Nashville where I get my locals from cable so the cable company carries it.
post #14 of 24
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Originally Posted by mike1977 View Post

I'm still waiting for the day I see Crank Yankers aired on Syfy

Maybe reruns of Gilligan's Island on the Food Network...

50,000 Ways To Prepare Coconuts (and even get them to produce electric current).
post #15 of 24
Speaking of odd censorship, I was watching a segment of "O Brother Where Art Thou" on (I think) AMC the other night. They twice silenced the audio for the word "midget" but freely let SOB be said.

Strange world we live in where you can say "bitch" but not "midget." I guess the little people's anti-defamation coalition is stronger than the bitches'.
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by 8traxrule View Post

Indeed you can get this movie on Blu-Ray cheap. If I'm paying for a channel called Country Music Television, I expect to see country music on it! (I'm not even a fan of country music, but if I were forced to pay for this channel that's still what I'd expect to see on it! Show the movies on the movie channels, uncut!)

....and how much wrestling do you need on the Sci-Fi channel....or SyFy or whatever....with all the great old Sci-Fi shows and movies from the 40s to the 70s, I can't believe they can't find legitimate sci-fi programming
post #17 of 24
Bickering removed. Stay on topic.
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by lobosrul View Post

One of my earliest memories is watching "Money for Nothing" with my Dad on MTV.

I'm looking through tvguide.com and not seeing MTV playing any music videos at all, ever. MTV2 does very late at night/early mornings. Edit: Ah, I take that back, they play AMTV("insert some weird thing here"), from about 1 to 4 AM, but not on weekends.

VH1 Classic & Palladia (MTV HD) are pretty much the only outlets for actual music and/or music related programming 24/7. Of course the former rarely plays anything new & the latter loops the same 20-30 concerts every month.

FUSE also seems to have music on most of the time.

But yeah, unless it was something like This is SPinal Tap, a Beatles or Elvis movie, or some sort of concert/documentary....I would not normally be watching a "music channel" for movies.

And yeah...Groundhog Day on an optical disc can be picked up on the cheap
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

VH1 Classic & Palladia (MTV HD) are pretty much the only outlets for actual music and/or music related programming 24/7.

What about:
MTV Jams -- fios channel 213
MTV Hits -- fios channel 214
CMT Pure Country -- fios channel 222
Great American Country -- fios channel 223
post #20 of 24
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

What about:
MTV Jams -- fios channel 213
MTV Hits -- fios channel 214
CMT Pure Country -- fios channel 222
Great American Country -- fios channel 223

Guess I should have qualified it with - "ones I would watch"

I know these others exist, but would not want to comment on channels I do not watch. For all I know, MTV Jams/Hits are also clogged up with "reality" TV & other non-music programming. These days, it seems the one great source for hearing new stuff isn neither via cable tv or radio...its Spotify or Pandora.
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

Guess I should have qualified it with - "ones I would watch"

I know these others exist, but would not want to comment on channels I do not watch. For all I know, MTV Jams/Hits are also clogged up with "reality" TV & other non-music programming. These days, it seems the one great source for hearing new stuff isn neither via cable tv or radio...its Spotify or Pandora.

Nope basically all music.

mtv jams:
http://www.titantv.com/programming/c...date/20120328/

mtv hits:
http://www.titantv.com/programming/c...date/20120328/

cmt pure country:
http://www.titantv.com/programming/c...date/20120328/

gac:
http://www.titantv.com/programming/c...date/20120328/
post #22 of 24
Getting back to censorship of Groundhog Day,since the film is in the National film Registry IMHO it should be shown UNCUT and in its original aspect ratio!
post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by hondo21 View Post

Speaking of odd censorship, I was watching a segment of "O Brother Where Art Thou" on (I think) AMC the other night. They twice silenced the audio for the word "midget" but freely let SOB be said.

Strange world we live in where you can say "bitch" but not "midget." I guess the little people's anti-defamation coalition is stronger than the bitches'.

I was watching Paladia last week, and Little Wayne was on 'Unplugged'. During his song Lollipop, they silenced the word "juicy" every time it was sung.
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by fhall1 View Post

....and how much wrestling do you need on the Sci-Fi channel....or SyFy or whatever....with all the great old Sci-Fi shows and movies from the 40s to the 70s, I can't believe they can't find legitimate sci-fi programming

WWE didn't want to be on the back then Sci-Fi Network either in 2006 when they launched their version of ECW. The major reason why the show ended up on Sci-Fi was due to Bonnie Hunt not wanting the USA Network running too many WWE shows a week... which pretty much translates into wanting to use WWE programming to bump up the ratings on Sci-Fi or the now very lamely named SyFy.
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