Originally Posted by starpup
Thanks walbert I think I'm getting there.
The reason I wanted to buy the BIC center is because if the monitor 50's dont stack up I'm going to go BIC anyways. Don't want to buy the cs2 and than the BIC pl-76's know what i mean. guess it's easier if I just buy them now.
Do you have any complaints to an all BIC system as mentioned before? And what do you have against that onkyo receiver its $450 at fry's right now
The Denon has no audyssey, so anything would be a step up I guess. Are my Polk rc60i's salvageable?
The ideal system has the same speaker for every channel, since that's not practical for most people (even when budget is not an issue), you get as close to that ideal as you can. In other words, having speakers all from the same series from the same manufacturer, like all Polk Monitors, or all Klipsch Reference, or all B&W Diamond, that kind of thing. If you know you're getting the BIC, then doing it piece-at-a-time isn't a bad choice if you're financially limited. However it's not going to get you the best results to be "half way" in both directions - the BIC center is a bad match for the Monitor 50, and the Monitor 50 are a bad match for the BIC center.
If it was me, and I was on a tight budget, I'd probably consider making the Monitor 50 into the surrounds, and getting the Monitor 70 and a CS2 as the LCR. As opposed to buying five or seven new speakers, you're only buying three.
The in-ceiling speakers are an interesting predicament on their own; generally I hate in-ceiling speakers (yes, I used the word "hate"), but sometimes they're the only way to physically get speakers in one location. If the Monitor 50's could act as their own stands, and sit by your couch/chair/beanbag/whatever as your surrounds, that would very likely be more ideal.
Otherwise, go with all BIC speakers; see the problem now?
I have nothing against the Onkyo, apart from a general feeling of "poor reliability" with the brand (I've seen a number of them fail with my own two eyes, and read about many, many more - we used to have a CI posting here who shared some sales data on receivers, and from what I remember, Onkyo has something like 30 or 40% of the market, so it's not surprising more people have them fail; it's like Ford, they're everywhere and make everything, so even if they have the lowest failure rate on earth, they have more failed units than some manufacturers have total shipments in a year). Contrasted to Yamaha, which I've had great luck with (and, admittedly, I like CinemaDSP); I'm fairly indifferent to Onkyo on the whole, just like Pioneer and Denon. They all make quality products and generally do a good job delivering on their claims (And Onkyo usually does a very good job on delivering on it's power claims). That $450 bar is about where all of the products I mentioned (perhaps not the 3312) sit.