XBMC v11 Eden is released - Page 3

We are going in circles, seems like everyone understand except you.

First you said u can play anything, than i pointed out it cant play 1080I 25fps. Than you said your play fine with 720P. ROFL

I honestly don't see any use for this kind of comment other than trying to pick a fight...

If XBMC doesn't play your 1080i / 25 movies, simply find another player that does and move on...

Lack of support for 1080i BR won't change the opinion of the majority who think XBMC is fantastic...

Again, I said my version played because it was 720p. Don't know why this is so hard to understand for you.

+1

They are trying to pick a fight clearly.

am I learning anything new here? nope, just we have some users for whom XBMC doesn't meet their needs and they should use a different product.

and Congratulations to the XBMC team for a stellar release. Its the best release yet. Its great to have watched and participated every step of the way frrom the inital XBMP on a hardware chipped xbox till today. Congratulations!

Agreed. As a former doubter of XBMC I have come full circle. Its a great (although not perfect --- none of them are) great piece of software.

So other than experimentation and learning what is motivating folks to load it? As an alternative to 7MC or used with 7MC and launched from it? If so what is missing from 7MC that you see in XBMC Eden?

I wonder how long until OpenELEC is updated to Eden

XBMC allows a ton of customization and incredible add-ons, both of which are sorely lacking in MCE.

I installed Eden on release day and have had more issues with this version than the previous.

1 - Installing XBMCbuntu doesn't seem to like HD tv's so I eventually found out about the 120 x 120 install option.

2 - Finding the right audio device in the settings so I could get audio through the optical output took forever.

3 - When I play some video files audio some times they won't work so I need to back out and play again.

These are minor issues, but I feel it still needs work.

Lots and lots of broadcast TV is 1080i native interlaced (as opposed to 1080p carried in 1080i). Almost all major sporting events (Olympics, World Cup, Wimbledon, European Cup etc.) are shot 1080/50i or 1080/60i native. Most entertainment and HD news shows are shot 1080i native, as are some soaps and sitcoms (though 720/50p or 720/60p is used by some broadcasters instead)

Drama, some documentaries, some sitcoms and some soaps, as well as movies are 1080p.


Yes - and no.

Modern de-interlacers are able to de-interlaced 1080/50i or 1080/60i to 1080/50p or 1080/60p pretty effectively (spatial temporal de-interlacing using vector motion tracking can deliver very good results)

As 1080/24p or 1080/25p is not suitable for high-motion capture environments - like sport, entertainment (fast crane and steadicam motion doesn't work at 24/25Hz) either broadcasters have to use 720/50p or 60p, or they have to use 1080/50i or 60i to capture 50/60Hz motion.

Many went 1080i, some went 720p. 1080/50p or 1080/60p is not being used for broadcast TV to the home (yet) - so that isn't an option.

As someone who uses XBMC (with TV Headend to watch Live TV) and also Recorded TV (SD MPEG2 576/50i and HD H264 1080/50i and 720/50p) de-interlacing is pretty important to me. nVidia VDPAU with Temporal Spatial 2x de-interlacing is pretty good. Other graphics cards don't fair so well in XBMC.

There are widespread issues with VC-1 interlaced content - but that is an FFMPEG issue AIUI - not an XBMC one.

If you only watch movies in XBMC then de-interlacing and interlaced content may not be an issue for you. It is for those of us who use XBMC to watch broadcast material.

Will the impending bump in XBMC to Ffmpeg 0.10.2 help with VC-1 interlaced content?
Looks like its coming soon now that Eden is out:
https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/pull/810

again, what does it have to do with the 1080I. Since the question was towards 1080I and not 720p. Don't know why this is so hard to understand for you.?

Good god you just don't quit. Again I pointed this out from the start.

ROFL with the Double and Triple Face Palm..... Almost woke up the folks.

Yeah I was mildly amused by them when I saw them the first 100 times all over the internet about 6 years ago. Evidently he just found out about them and is using them at every opportunity. I never rolled on the floor laughing though. More like a "heh".

Well, american TV Shows recorded in the USA should play fine, just tested Game of Thrones S02E01 , 1080i @ 29 FPS (MPEG2) & DD audio. Going to test some 25FPS recordings, if i find some.

I am going to test more when I can as well.

Quick and dirty solution to interlace material... You can always use the deinterlace option in your favorite conversion program when you rip it.

Not ideal, but its better than not being able to watch it at all.

Does XMBC 11 have Netflix? If so, can I add Movies/TV from it into the main Libraries?

No.

There is actually two options. There is a script that passes you to the WMC Plugin for netflix that allows you to use the remote to browse and play content. I have used this in the past to access my music library that is nearly entirely songs downloaded from Rhapsody for offline playback that only play back in WMC or using WMP. The author of the netflix script also wrote one for the music library that works well.