The OFFICIAL SAMSUNG PNXXE550 OWNERS THREAD - Page 9

This I believe is called dithering (dancing pixels). It's the algorithm that is used to help create the image on the plasma display using Red,Green and Blue pixels to create picture. Since plasma displays have no backlight a pixel is either on (RGB) or off (Black), so any gradation other than black (off) potentially may cause dithering or dancing colored pixels at close range. I hope I am correct in my understanding of the Plasma tech and I explained correctly.

Dr.Shankenstein is correct.
Dithering.
It's normal, after the break-in period when the phosphors finally reach their normal
operating temperature it's less obvious or less dancing movement.
The little buggers really do move around when the set is new.
Kinda cool looking to me.

Tested with MPO files last night in the photo viewer via a USB stick, and all the files displayed correctly in 3D. That's an improvement over previous Samsung 3DTV's that didn't support any 3D photo formats.

On dithering: It's not really noticeable for me unless I'm very close to the set.

Nvidia 3D is a completely different standard and I believe you need a specific NVidia enabled monitor (or their own kit) to make it work.

Nice to see another South African here.

Where do you get 3D images from? Would like to have a look at that.


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From South Africa, so your explanation makes perfect sense.




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since Best Buy neglected to pick up the e550 this weekend, and i can't schedule a pickup until the upcoming weekend that means i have another few days to make my decision. i can finally have my samsung 60e550 VS panasonic 60ST50 face off. I'm determined to make sure I keep the right one.

I'm planning on purchasing my first plasma tv soon (currently own an LCD flat panel) and I've been doing a ton of research on the e550 and so far I really like it. The only issue is that on many forums, comments, reviews, etc. people have been saying that their brightness pops and fluctuates a lot during hockey games. I'm a big hockey fan so I really want to get this cleared up before I take the plunge and buy it. I noticed some people in the first few posts of this thread mentioned this but I have yet to see a solution. Has anyone else experienced this?

Out of the office this morning with mandela day but will post a few links for hi res mpo photos later. You can find some 3d photo galleries via googles though. I think I'm going to purchase tridef 3d instead of the nvidia 3dtv drivers and give it a bash. It seems to support newer 3dtv's and shutter mode without proprietary hardware and quite a list of games and 3d video playback via pc. $50 or so isnt too bad i suppose.

I have a question for any of you familiar with the service menu.

I'm getting the following errors under the service tab

T-con checksum- error
T-con. Tempread - error
Temp last - error

Dcc version - error
Dcc check local - error
Dcc check total - error

Multiacc checksum - error

Chip test - failure.

Anyone have any idea what any of these errors are? How they should manifest themselves on screen? Should I expect future issues arising with these errors?

The reason I ask is that the tv seems to work great, the display is perfect on netflix, on screen display menu,s etc, but the cable hd channels don't look quite as good as my old 720p did and has what looks like compression artifacts around some of the (white especially) text, like if you blow up a jpeg (from a reasonable viewing distance it looks great though)..

I figured it was a result of the up conversion and my cable companies compression of the signal. But given the errors I'm wondering if any of them can cause this. I could call a tech but I can't really say hey I was screwing around in the service menu and noticed.. Blah blah blah.

Anyone getting the same errors or have any Insight on this? How is your picture around the text from close up. Like foxnews for instance. Around the logo and the topic titles.

Thanks for any insight.


I'll tell you one thing the 3d on these units is excellent...

Also, If anyone else has the netflix issue I posted earlier. It seems the esn server just goes down randomly for a few days at a time..or has a huge backlog.. But eventually one day you turn the tv on and the code is just there. Took me like 5 days before it appeared. So just be patient. Hope that helps.

If you have a 60" panel, this might be because of the pentile pixel arrangement.

I'm down to the UT50 or Samsung E530 or E550 right before the Wii U launches in November. Normally i'd totaly opt for the UT50 but apperantly it's not up to snuff in the input lag department boasting 40ms+....I need 16-20ms and that's that.
I do have this years X5 and while it performs pretty good(2 frames I'm guessing) i'm still not quite satisfyed with it.

However, the X5 has very good black levels, amazing color gamut where you can achieve colors that basically leap of the screen and it's possibly the' brightest plasma i've ever seen when in game or Vivid mode. Picture quality wise i'm very happyw ith it.
But, i need 1080p(or native 720p in the Wii U's case, and the X5 is only 1024x766 so i'm missing out on 256 pixels plus there's that wierd fixed upscaling going on) and of course 16-20ms for gaming .

Somebody said when in Game Mode and using HDMI 2 labeled as 'PC' there's 16-20ms of input lag.
If that's the case than this set owns panasonics 2012 plasma lineup! I'm just hopeing this set can deliver the color and brightness of the X5 when in game mode...

Personally I despise Game Mode.

Not only is it badly placed on the menus, but it also locks all the other Picture Profiles and I really find very little benefit to using it. If anything it makes the picture overly bright and very cold.

I've had no issues with input lag, but then again I am already using HDMI2 by default because of the ARC that is only supported on that interface.


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Hi Guys - especially the South Africans in this thread :-)

I also bought my 51E550 locally in South Africa and am trying to get the PVR functionaity to work. I have tried a powered HDD as well as a USB-only powered HDD, but whnever I press the "Record" button on the remote, I get a "Not Avialbale" message popping up. Tried both USB ports - but I guess it is supposed to work with the one marked "HDD".

Does our models locally support recording? Will be pretty lame if it doesn't!

Thanks for any help!

So what have been the input lag measurements for the 530 & 550?
Somebody who says "I game on this TV and have no issues at all" or "it's fine"
doesn't really mean much. I mean 'fine' compared to what? People were saying the same thing
about the D450, and that was a horrible set for gaming imo. pretty sluggish actually. XP

If this set can deliver 16-20ms than i'm on board seeing as how Panasonics UT50 can't. Anything
more than i'm passing. I hear in GameMode with HDMI'2' set to PC mode it's at it's lowest...
Hopefully it's in the range that i want and hopefully it doesn't cripple any of the standard Picture controls
while in that mode. XP

What do you mean when it locks the other picture profiles? And overly Bright? Sounds
good to me! XP that's exactly what i want, and i want it set to 'cool' Hopefully there's a color
temp adjustment for it unless it locks that out too while in Game mode...which it shouldn't. XP

How are the black levels btw? It's sucks that Panasonics UT50's input lag is in the low 40ms. because other
than that it's supposed to be a phenomenal looking set.

Game mode locks down the majority of the picture settings. So if you don't like something about how Game Mode looks, you don't have a full set of sliders and options to make adjustments you may want.

Also presuming this is like other Samsung's, Game Mode will *only* use the "Standard" picture mode.

As far as game mode is concerned the only PQ options i need are


Contrast, brightness, color, Hue, sharpness and a color temp control(Cool, Normal, Warm), and of course
the ability to switch the aspect ratio, be it 16:9, 4:3 ect. XP

I just want to get a bright beautiful colorful picture with good black levels.
Expert-like controls aren't needed.

Hell my panasonic X5 delivers an outstanding picture for gaming(1024x768 res aside)
The color is wonderful, the blacks levels are pretty good, the brightness in 'game mode' is fantastic(especially for a
plasma) and overall it's just very punchy. But again, the 2+frames of lag for me is a wee' bit
dissapointing.

So I received an unexpected USB firmware upgrade in the mail yesterday from Samsung for my 51E550 stating that there is a "potential issue" with the 51E530, 51E550, and 51E6500 that may arise, and this firmware is supposed to prevent that "potential issue." Anyone have any idea what this is about? Guy in the E6500 thread got one as well.

I think this may be the set i end up turning too for my main display if the input lag truly does hold up. XP
Well, the cheaper E530 that is. How does the brightness and color stack up in comparison to the Panasonic UT50?
And does the E530 or 550 have one of those nasty screen filters(like the ST50) that makes the image look soft and less crisp?

The screen filter you are referring to is very likely the anti reflective (AR) coating. Samsung does not use AR coating until you get to the 6500 series of PDPs.

And the AR coating for the 6500 series results in a softer less crisper image? Which at keast seems to be the case with the ST50 when stacked up the Filter Free UT50.
Also, what are differences between the E530 and E550 '3D' aside. The Price range is quite the gap.


Also, this is what HDTVUK.test had to say about last years 'D'550 when it came to input lag.

"We weren’t expecting the PS51D550 to do wonderfully or woefully when it came to gaming, because most of Samsung’s plasmas have managed respectable, but not leading amounts of responsiveness lately. The 51D550 exceeded our expectations with an exceptionally speedy 16ms, but we had to use the “PC” input label (accessed by pressing Source > HDMI1/DVI > Tools > Edit Name > PC) to achieve this speed. We’re also not sure if it will enable with all sources, although it did with our Xbox 360 Elite feeding the panel. (This also results in full uncompressed colour being displayed in the 4:4:4 format, for those of you who are both hardcore gamers and hardcore videophiles). Remember that this trick only works on the HDMI1 input, so gamers should give their favourite system priority when connecting.

Without this trick, the Samsung PS51D550 still managed a respectable, but slightly game-altering 31ms of input lag.
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Matt,I was wondering the same thing,as I received my usb drive also yesterday stating the same generic fixes for e550 & 6500 models.

Anyone know what this firmware update does?
has anyone tried updating with new samsung supplied drive update?

I remember a few big issues last year or so with samsung usb firmware updates making some C&D series worse or killing the panels.
There isnt anything on samsung support or online yet,I guess one of us will have to try it out.
The thing is my TV is working perfectly,No buzz,awesome 3D and color performance etc.I wonder what samsung means by preventing future issues as they don't specify anything exact.????????

Hey guys. Need some advice. Looking for a 60 inch plasma for my bedroom. I have a 120inch DLP projector for the main theater room so size is important to me

It's not really critical viewing... Late night in bed watching & will be used for college football replays via HD DVR. I work weekends. Certainly want the best TV I can get.
I'm considering:
Samsung 60e550 (free 3d BD player tossed in) & glasses.
Samsung 60e6500 ( free glasses)
Panasonic 60ut50
Panasonic 60st50

Most of the reviews are good for them all. Haven't seen a lot of reviews for the e550 tho. 3d bd player & glasses is a nice perk but I honestly doubt I'll watch much 3d content in the bedroom.

Light is pretty controlled in the room that late at night. Will have a lamp on.

Samsung E550 is about 100 less than the PanUT50 & $200 less than the e6500/st50.

Thoughts?

Okay, my LG plasma turned into a nightmare. In dealing with LG and NewEgg, I can basically choose another LG plasma (no way) or buy one of their 60 inch Samsungs.

The PN60E530A3F or the PN60E550D1F

What is crucial to me is the ability to turn OFF the Soap Opera-vision. I despise 120hz.

I prefer 1080p/60 for my HD Cable content and 1080p/24 for my Blu-Rays.

1080p/24 is a must. Period.

Will either set give me that? Honestly, why do these manufacturers make it so stinking hard to discover these specs?

I have owned the e550, saw the st50 numerous times, and the wd73740 dlp.
The e550 is a huge gamble. The buzzing is soo loud on most of the sets. If you watch in your bedrrom at night, I don't recommend it.
The st50 competes with last years top of the line pq model (vt30). I would highly recommend it.
Since I did not need to hang my tv up on the wall, I chose the 73 inch dlp tv. I could not be more happy.

Wait, what? Those two samsung's you mentioned are plasma's
and plasmas dont have that nasty & Gimmicky 120hz feature that makes
film look like video. Or maybe I'm wrong? Anyways, I despise it as well. XP

Hey everyone. Just joined the forum. I can already tell this site is full of great information.

Yesterday I picked up a Samsung PN64E550D1FXZA as Best Buy. The first set had to be returned due to the screen being all broken when I opened it up at home. I have already picked up my second tv and it is great.

The issue I am having though pertains to audio. Call me old school, but on my previous Samsung I used the Analong/RCA audio in from my sony receiver and connected them to the Analog/RCA audio in on the back of the samsung tv. For some reason I am unable to get audio from the tv through my receiver speakers. I have turned the tv settings to "external" audio, but I still have no luck.

Any advice would be helpful?

The Samsung tech told me that this tv can only do external sound through an optical out cable... Is this true?

Thanks again!!!

If your receiver supports ARC (Audio Return Channel) you could do that.

You have to use the hdmi input that says ARC below it.
Not all the inputs have ARC capability.

Note, the optical cable is 5 dollars. If your receiver doesnt support it, it is really no big deal.

From what I understand, numerous plasmas don't do 1080p/24.