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post #301 of 657
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

Any Eco or power saving should be turned off.
Be sure Cell Light is on max of 20.
Dynamic Contrast - off
Digital Noise Filter - Off
Look at the back of the tv, the samsung white lable
where it says 'typical power' what is the number?

The only thing that wasnt set was dynamic contrast to OFF (thought low was the min option but the menu scrolls up). It actually helps a bit but theres still a huge difference...

Typical power says 106W

Pictures (the photos are actually a lot brighter than the actual tv.. but you can see the difference...) White turned grey (Click to show)
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In TV Menu, White is white (Click to show)
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Edited by Delryk - 8/22/12 at 2:23pm
post #302 of 657
set HDMI Black Level to high.

wow only 106w!
How is the heat output from the front?
post #303 of 657
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

set HDMI Black Level to high.
wow only 106w!
How is the heat output from the front?

Theres no high level.. just low and normal... and normal actually makes it worse...

Its actually pretty hot id say..lol.. is this different for every tv? Didnt know that...
post #304 of 657
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Originally Posted by Delryk View Post

Theres no high level.. just low and normal... and normal actually makes it worse...
Its actually pretty hot id say..lol.. is this different for every tv? Didnt know that...


not to worry it's normal for these E series.
my e450 bellowed out a ton of heat the first 5 days (left it on 24/7 for the first 10 days)
and then on day 6 I noted a slight decrease in heat and it has gradually gone down.
2 months later the heat is no comparison to when it was new.
the level of heat is very minimal now.
when I put my hand on the bottom where the speakers are it's not warm at all.
post #305 of 657
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

not to worry it's normal for these E series.
my e450 bellowed out a ton of heat the first 5 days (left it on 24/7 for the first 10 days)
and then on day 6 I noted a slight decrease in heat and it has gradually gone down.
2 months later the heat is no comparison to when it was new.
the level of heat is very minimal now.
when I put my hand on the bottom where the speakers are it's not warm at all.

Not worried as i have a 100% satisfaction/damage protection for 5 years or they change the tv... which is why they're sending a new one on saturday.. just hoping its a manufacturer defect because i love this tv.

My old tv is a samsung dlp and i still get brighter whites with an old bulb compared to the plasma right now on white backgrounds! It cant be possible. Lol.
post #306 of 657
post #307 of 657
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Originally Posted by Delryk View Post

Bought a 60E550.. Tv is awesome.. I love it.. Except for one thing....
The more white on the screen, the greyer the white gets. For example; the xbox logo.. White background and green X logo.. Well, the background is actually pretty grey... someone spoke of hockey in the thread, mine does a bit the same thing. The more ice surface i see on the screen, the darker the screen gets. if i pause the tv on the ice surface and open the tv menu, the white gets brighter and looks very good(from what i can see). i will try to take pictures tonite for show.
Though im getting a new replacement on Saturday.. I wanted to know if you guys think its really a manufacturing problem or not.. Called Samsung and they never heard something like it.......

It's normal for plasmas. it's because of the Auto Brightness Limiter (ABL). On all white screens plasmas dim the brightness I think to maximize the life of the tv. Any screen that only has some white the white will look brighter.

I think this is the reason why a all white screen is not good for getting rid of image retention and that is why the anti image retention scrolling bars are scrolling bars and not just a white screen because the scrolling bar can produce a more true and bright white.
post #308 of 657
Just got my PN60E550 today and have had it running for a few hours now. First impressions:

On first start-up everything was smooth and simple. The TV set itself up, found my network instantly, did a firmware update, scanned my OTA channels and went right to the antenna after ward. Great pic right off!

There is zero buzz. I stuck my head behind the set and can't even hear a hum! Cool!

The picture seems brighter, clearer and crisper than our old PN58B650 (and we absolutely loved that set). Don't know if it's because the 650 is old, the 550 is new or both? But the 550 is definitely better.

I don't seem to have an issue with glare at all? Our living room has 2 patio doors and 2 windows and the 550 doesn't look any different than the 650 and the 650 I had what, 2 layers of coating?

As much as I bitched about it, the 3D is pretty cool. So far I just turned on People's Court for something standard to look at. And the 3D effect was very good. At first I saw a very annoying flicker for a few seconds, but then it just went away and things were good. Watched for a awhile, then flicked around other channels to check it out. All good! Waiting now to watch a 3D blu-ray!

The streaming is awesome. So far I set up our Netflix and Hulu accounts and everything works faster than our Roku's, which we were fine with. I was quiite surprised to see that the built-in Wi-fi runs at the faster 300Mbps (5 Ghz) speed also?

For those with older Samsungs too, the learning curve for the new menu's and picks was pretty fast. I only had to search around twice for certain settings. I used my old B650 settings for this and they seem to produce the same picture (as far as brightness, contrast, cell, etc.).

I now have the 120 break-in slides running and the screen looks totally uniform. No light or dark spots or anything?

This is all for now. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it stays this way! wink.gifbiggrin.gif
Edited by Straybeat - 8/23/12 at 1:04pm
post #309 of 657
Straybeat
What was the default settings for 'Cell Light' in Standard and Movie modes?
Be sure Cell Light is on max of 20.
Thanks.
post #310 of 657
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

Straybeat
What was the default settings for 'Cell Light' in Standard and Movie modes?
Be sure Cell Light is on max of 20.
Thanks.

At first Standard was at 10, then it changed to 20 when I switched to Movie mode. I generally keep it in Movie mode all the time, except for when it changes to Standard for gaming? I'll have to look when I'm playing to see where the settings are? BTW, COD/MW3 in 3D was pretty cool, but too dark. I'll have to work on that later? It didn't appear to be in actual 3D, but created a nice effect for making opponents stand out more. Gaming in 2D was normal, so I'm thinking the darkness had to do with the glasses?
Edited by Straybeat - 8/23/12 at 12:57pm
post #311 of 657
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Originally Posted by Straybeat View Post

At first Standard was at 10, then it changed to 20 when I switched to Movie mode. I generally keep it in Movie mode all the time, except for when it changes to Standard for gaming?


yea they do that to get the low energy star ratings.
the BIG downside is in the stores when they setup the tv it's kept at that default 10 in Standard
so it looks dull and horrible.
Samsung is shooting themselves in the foot with that damn cell light.
quite possibly the worse feature ever go into a plasma.

BTW, for gaming when you change the HDMI input lable to 'PC'.
you get only 16ms lag time.
It does lock out color, etc.
post #312 of 657
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Originally Posted by sonyfan View Post

yea they do that to get the low energy star ratings.
the BIG downside is in the stores when they setup the tv it's kept at that default 10 in Standard
so it looks dull and horrible.
Samsung is shooting themselves in the foot with that damn cell light.
quite possibly the worse feature ever go into a plasma.

BTW, for gaming when you change the HDMI input lable to 'PC'.
you get only 16ms lag time.
It does lock out color, etc.

Thanks for the tips, I'll play around with it when I get there!
post #313 of 657
can someone post their current settings for best picture?
post #314 of 657
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Originally Posted by Z mann R2 View Post

can someone post their current settings for best picture?

what model do you have size, etc.

Try this.
I only use Movie Mode.
Shadow detail is finally looking normal.

Mode - Movie
Cell Light 20
Sharpness 0
Size - Screen Fit
Brightness 50 daytime / 40 for evening and 35 to 30 for a dark room
Contrast 100 daytime / 97 for evening and 95 to 90 for a dark room
Color 51
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma -1 for night (0 for daytime
Dynamic Contrast - off
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Digital Noise Filter - Off

White Balance Calibration

RO - 21
GO - 25
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 25
BG - 23
post #315 of 657
sorry wrong thread.
Edited by strong island 1 - 8/23/12 at 5:05pm
post #316 of 657
Sorry wrong thread but please feel free to give an opinion.


I'm not trying to bash this tv because I love it and I don't want anyone to think it's bad but I have a question.

If anybody here could switch the 60e7000 for a 55" vt50 for no extra money would anyone do it?

The vt50 would be the only tv I would switch this tv for and I can't decide on which one I should pick. I have to decide by tommorrow.
post #317 of 657
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Originally Posted by strong island 1 View Post

Sorry wrong thread but please feel free to give an opinion.
I'm not trying to bash this tv because I love it and I don't want anyone to think it's bad but I have a question.
If anybody here could switch the 60e7000 for a 55" vt50 for no extra money would anyone do it?
The vt50 would be the only tv I would switch this tv for and I can't decide on which one I should pick. I have to decide by tommorrow.

If you're new to the Samsung, just wait. They warm up greatly after you had them a couple months and they start to settle in. We've had the old PN58B650 for a couple years and I had some issues with it at first. Everything got real dark like all the movies were filmed at night. Then all of a sudden one day it "snapped out of it" and was the most perfect picture I ever saw. It happened at about 2 months old and lasted about 2 weeks. Some people thought a firmware update fixed it, others said it's just a Samsung thing? I was right on the verge of sending it back, but didn't want to because it looked so good. Glad I waited it out.
post #318 of 657
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Originally Posted by Straybeat View Post

If you're new to the Samsung, just wait. They warm up greatly after you had them a couple months and they start to settle in. We've had the old PN58B650 for a couple years and I had some issues with it at first. Everything got real dark like all the movies were filmed at night. Then all of a sudden one day it "snapped out of it" and was the most perfect picture I ever saw. It happened at about 2 months old and lasted about 2 weeks. Some people thought a firmware update fixed it, others said it's just a Samsung thing? I was right on the verge of sending it back, but didn't want to because it looked so good. Glad I waited it out.

Ya Ive only had it for 2 weeks. I just feel like Im missing something by not getting the vt50 but I might switch and hate that I did. I really don't like the shadow detail on my tv.
post #319 of 657
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Originally Posted by Straybeat View Post

If you're new to the Samsung, just wait. They warm up greatly after you had them a couple months and they start to settle in. We've had the old PN58B650 for a couple years and I had some issues with it at first. Everything got real dark like all the movies were filmed at night. Then all of a sudden one day it "snapped out of it" and was the most perfect picture I ever saw. It happened at about 2 months old and lasted about 2 weeks. Some people thought a firmware update fixed it, others said it's just a Samsung thing? I was right on the verge of sending it back, but didn't want to because it looked so good. Glad I waited it out.

Yes, agreed. It's a Samsung thing.
My Shadow Detail is finally looking normal after 2 months.
You're not getting a finished pouduct when it's new.
Leave it on 24/7 for at least the first 10 days.
Run the scroll overnight, slides, whatever you like.
That's what I recomend to new owners.
post #320 of 657
Wireless USB keyboard / mouse and the Samsung PN51E550?

I just bought a Samsung PN51E550. It looks like it accepts bluetooth keyboards (I don't own one), but I'm curious whether the USB slots on the TV can be used for a wireless USB keyboard and mouse. I have a Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo and I would love to use it with the TV. I'm a little nervous about causing problems if I plug them into the TV and they start trying to install device drivers that the TV does not want to accept.

Has anyone tried this?
post #321 of 657
For all of you with crushed blacks or missing shadow detail... change your gamma setting! That's precisely what it's for. It doesn't wash out anything else, and gives you exactly what you've been missing. I've never seen a display device that couldn't use a bit of gamma tweaking to get the details right.
post #322 of 657
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Originally Posted by jhachey View Post

Wireless USB keyboard / mouse and the Samsung PN51E550?
I just bought a Samsung PN51E550. It looks like it accepts bluetooth keyboards (I don't own one), but I'm curious whether the USB slots on the TV can be used for a wireless USB keyboard and mouse. I have a Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo and I would love to use it with the TV. I'm a little nervous about causing problems if I plug them into the TV and they start trying to install device drivers that the TV does not want to accept.
Has anyone tried this?

Most USB input devices us a generic driver. That is why they work out of the box. Specialty drivers are for sound control and stuff like that. Either way the TV should be smart enough to not let a device harm it. I believe it even says in the manual it supports USB input devices. I also have Samsung app I use on my phone which helps out a bunch to for a keyboard/mouse. If you want to try it and cannot find it in the android market let me know. I use it on a galaxy nexus. Waiting for a new version that supports the s3 for better display fit etc.
post #323 of 657
Hey Sony, these settings are they for the 60E550? Does anyone have settings they are willing to post cause i have 2 of these and have asked before in my last posting but i havent seen any replies, thanks. Well appreciated.
post #324 of 657
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Originally Posted by ReggaetonSalsero View Post

Hey Sony, these settings are they for the 60E550? Does anyone have settings they are willing to post cause i have 2 of these and have asked before in my last posting but i havent seen any replies, thanks. Well appreciated.

In the owners manual on spec page what is the number for 'Display Resolution'?
Thanks.

E450.
They are a good starting point but the white balance can be tricky.
the main 3 are:
Cell Light 20
Sharpness 0
Size - Screen Fit
Edited by sonyfan - 8/25/12 at 11:02am
post #325 of 657
Hi sony, it says 1920 X 1080...it's the 60" 60e550 plasmas
post #326 of 657
After 7 days, i'm on the 8th day of finishing with the slides/breakin of day and night non stop, the plasma looks like the picture is painted on instead of a nice REAL looking picture like my pioneers had. I know they arent no where near them but i did the same processes with my friends which i recommended for him to buy and his looks better. Weird. So i'm still trying to see if anyone is kind enough to pass along some calibrations for a 60e550. I have everything off, and the light on 20 as suggested in prior notes here.
post #327 of 657
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Originally Posted by ReggaetonSalsero View Post

After 7 days, i'm on the 8th day of finishing with the slides/breakin of day and night non stop, the plasma looks like the picture is painted on instead of a nice REAL looking picture like my pioneers had. I know they arent no where near them but i did the same processes with my friends which i recommended for him to buy and his looks better. Weird. So i'm still trying to see if anyone is kind enough to pass along some calibrations for a 60e550. I have everything off, and the light on 20 as suggested in prior notes here.

Try this.
I only use Movie Mode.

Movie - Mode
Cell Light 20
Sharpness 0
Size - Screen Fit
Brightness 50 daytime / 40 for evening and 35 to 30 for a dark room
Contrast 100 daytime / 97 for evening and 95 to 90 for a dark room
Color 52
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma 0 for daytime ( -1 for night
Dynamic Contrast - off
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Digital Noise Filter - Off

White Balance Calibration

RO - 21
GO - 25
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 25
BG - 23
post #328 of 657
Thanks brotha i'll let u know how it worked out, thanks kindly :0)
post #329 of 657
Ok thanks for the calibration settings. I tried them on both tvs but they actually made the picture worse, made it look dark and no whites, all whites were extremely washed out, looks dark and dull with gray. I am hoping i don't have to shell out for a best buy tech to come calibrate it. Where is chad b when u need him lol. I was gonna buy some kind of calibration disk but i'm a bit on the dumb side to use that correctly.
post #330 of 657
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Originally Posted by ReggaetonSalsero View Post

Ok thanks for the calibration settings. I tried them on both tvs but they actually made the picture worse, made it look dark and no whites, all whites were extremely washed out, looks dark and dull with gray. I am hoping i don't have to shell out for a best buy tech to come calibrate it. Where is chad b when u need him lol. I was gonna buy some kind of calibration disk but i'm a bit on the dumb side to use that correctly.

try 'Dynamic' mode. That gives you the brightest possible picture.
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