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post #31 of 390
If you are going to do the input lag test, maybe the program SMTT 2.0 is of interest to you.

It is very simple to use. It is much more accurate then the input lag program from flatpanelsHD.

You can download it here:

http://smtt.thomasthiemann.com/index_en.html

Here you can find an photo of what it looks like:

http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imageno...333121317.jpeg
post #32 of 390
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Originally Posted by InYourEyes View Post

I believe Toshiba is using AU Optronics panels at this time, also found in less expensive models. Surprisingly, these AU Optronics panels have been rated highest in picture quality, according to Consumer Reports, so I wouldn't worry about it.

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Originally Posted by SurfingMatt27 View Post

Well what made me choose this Toshiba was even though my past Toshiba tv was most likely a lemon at the time, i liked it's PQ for gaming and Blu-ray and it had great black levels. So what made me most interested in this particular 6200U model was the bezel less design, and the CQ engine processor and upon reading about AU Optronics panels they seem very High quality after reading info from the official AUO website.

Hi, could you guys tell me where did you hear that this tv's panel is gonna be AUO?

If it's true that means this is the first non LG Panel Passive 3D TV (Panasonic and Phillips using LG too, don't know about Vizio though). That also means we can at least expect better blacks and lower input lags. I'll be waiting for reviews.
post #33 of 390
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Originally Posted by Heartquake View Post

Hi, could you guys tell me where did you hear that this tv's panel is gonna be AUO?

That's what Toshiba's customer support told me, plus I opened up the back cover with a screwdriver before.
post #34 of 390
Thanks for the info. 42" and 47" are LG IPS panel sizes. That's why I was confused. AUO has started to produce those sizes too then.
post #35 of 390
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Originally Posted by Heartquake View Post

Thanks for the info. 42" and 47" are LG IPS panel sizes. That's why I was confused. AUO has started to produce those sizes too then.

Toshiba reserves the right to switch to LG without notice, so it could be LG then. I'm not sure. Toshiba is very jumpy in switching manufacturers. And, I don't even know if it's an outsourced Toshiba TV or not.
post #36 of 390
Hi all,
Do you know if L7200 or 6200 coming to uk?
Cant find any info, seem like us only.
Thanks
post #37 of 390
So far I only know one store in Vancouver, Canada that has the 47L6200 (~cad$1,400) and 55L7200 (~cad$2,000) displayed. The 47 was in the 'Store' mode so it looked really punchy. Its lag was not noticable when compared with the other sets around it on the same wall. I was able to switch the 55 to the 'Movie' mode and it looks much more natural. There was a glitch though when I tried to switch to netflix. I guess because the set was not connected to the Internet, the screen blackened, and no matter what buttons I pressed on the remote I could not get it back to the original program (bluray). The salesperson needed to 'reboot' the tv set.

The 47 and 55 were in different areas, not showing the same program and in different modes so I could not tell If the 240 hz and the 'local dimming' made a difference in PQ.

One more thing ... It is not as bezel-less as the official photos suggest but the bezel is quite thin.

I may buy soon.
post #38 of 390
Surfing Matt did you get your set? Can you post some thoughts? I am happy with my 3 year old Toshiba and looking for a larger panel. Toshiba seems to handle SD upconversion better than other screens.
post #39 of 390
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Originally Posted by Kobrinl View Post

Surfing Matt did you get your set? Can you post some thoughts? I am happy with my 3 year old Toshiba and looking for a larger panel. Toshiba seems to handle SD upconversion better than other screens.

I actually cancelled my order about a week and a half ago and Got the LG 47" 7600 instead. The LG is very nice with gaming and movies. Game of Thrones looks great on this tv!

Reason i cancelled was the wait was too long, i got an e-mail of the Toshiba being on back order for another 2 weeks so i decided screw this i'm tired of waiting and got the LG 7600 series instead. And i'm very satisfied to say the least.

Sorry if i can't help you with the Toshiba.
post #40 of 390
The 55L7200 is at the top of my list. I hope it is well reviewed - I am ready to buy. I am looking forward to the Audyssey® Premium Suite and New Ported Speakers Design for better sound - I don't want to always turn on my full home theater system just to look at the news or minor programming as most thin HDTV's sound awful due to very tiny speakers.
post #41 of 390
Bought the 55L6200 model from Amazon for $984 probably a price mistake. but the seller is Amazon and honoring it.
Can't wait to get it. But Amazon says it might take a month to deliver. But for the price I got , I can wait!!
post #42 of 390
That is a great price, as you said worth the wait. Please post your review when you get it.
post #43 of 390
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Originally Posted by jilla60 View Post

Bought the 55L6200 model from Amazon for $984 probably a price mistake. but the seller is Amazon and honoring it.
Can't wait to get it. But Amazon says it might take a month to deliver. But for the price I got , I can wait!!

Could you also test the input lag with input lag measuring software?
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post #45 of 390
Can anyone post a review?
post #46 of 390
Anyone know how this TV (6200) compares to the Panasonic ET5? I can't believe the deals that are available for this TV. Better than the ET5.

I was almost set on the ET5 but if this is a better TV for less money then the choice is obvious.
post #47 of 390
Anyone know whether these have matte screens?
post #48 of 390
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Originally Posted by bluescreen View Post

Anyone know whether these have matte screens?

Nop, they have EXTREMELY glossy screen but funny the person said it doesnt flare that bad ? dont know why.

I also got in on the Amazon order and it is suppose to ship tomorrow, deliver by next Friday. I was quoted for Jun/Jul delivery but I guess they just got stocks so whoever got in is going to get it next week too. Already download the Toshiba remote and media guide for my Touchpad

Also, people who expect a bezel-less will be disappointed, at least I did. The bezel look wider than my Sony 55nx720. Picts were photoshoped onto the set when it was off when it is on you will see the bezel much like Sony monolithic design. No bezel when the set is off.
post #49 of 390
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Originally Posted by tony_tc_lau View Post

So far I only know one store in Vancouver, Canada that has the 47L6200 (~cad$1,400) and 55L7200 (~cad$2,000) displayed. The 47 was in the 'Store' mode so it looked really punchy. Its lag was not noticable when compared with the other sets around it on the same wall. I was able to switch the 55 to the 'Movie' mode and it looks much more natural. There was a glitch though when I tried to switch to netflix. I guess because the set was not connected to the Internet, the screen blackened, and no matter what buttons I pressed on the remote I could not get it back to the original program (bluray). The salesperson needed to 'reboot' the tv set.

The 47 and 55 were in different areas, not showing the same program and in different modes so I could not tell If the 240 hz and the 'local dimming' made a difference in PQ.

One more thing ... It is not as bezel-less as the official photos suggest but the bezel is quite thin.

I may buy soon.

Which store was this? I am having trouble finding one to view here in Vancouver, so am reluctant to buy.
post #50 of 390
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Originally Posted by jackq45 View Post

Which store was this? I am having trouble finding one to view here in Vancouver, so am reluctant to buy.

Visions on Marine Drive intersecting Argyle. I also saw a 55 inch at Futureshop downtown but it was not set up yet
post #51 of 390
Please post pics and input lag (if possible) after setup. I am very curious to see how this tv performs because it could be the best tv for the money.

I am throwing this into my tv shoot out before I buy.

Right now I am looking at: size 47" price range $800-1200
LG lm7600
Panasonic et5
Panasonic st50 (obviously plasma 50")
Panasonic e50
Toshiba l6200u

These are the tv's I am having a terrible time choosing between.
post #52 of 390
Ugh, I have 2 6200's sitting in the living room and no time over the next week to setup. Anticipation is a beach.
post #53 of 390
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Originally Posted by Hurricane_777 View Post

Ugh, I have 2 6200's sitting in the living room and no time over the next week to setup. Anticipation is a beach.

I'll sub for you at work!!! go go go! I wish a review would come out about the blacks. I am assuming there close to the lg performance.
post #54 of 390
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Originally Posted by Hotthree View Post

Please post pics and input lag (if possible) after setup. I am very curious to see how this tv performs because it could be the best tv for the money.

I am throwing this into my tv shoot out before I buy.

Right now I am looking at: size 47" price range $800-1200
LG lm7600
Panasonic et5
Panasonic st50 (obviously plasma 50")
Panasonic e50
Toshiba l6200u

These are the tv's I am having a terrible time choosing between.

You and I are shopping for the same exact thing.

I'm leaning toward ET5 or L6200U because I've read less than good things about the LM6700 in the thread about it.

I would get the ST50 if energy consumption weren't an issue. Plus I want passive 3D.

I'm hoping the L6200U is stellar. I like the look of it better than the ET5 and I'm hoping the dual core processor gives it better PQ and other abilities.
post #55 of 390
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Originally Posted by SuperAmmo View Post

You and I are shopping for the same exact thing.

I'm leaning toward ET5 or L6200U because I've read less than good things about the LM6700 in the thread about it.

I would get the ST50 if energy consumption weren't an issue. Plus I want passive 3D.

I'm hoping the L6200U is stellar. I like the look of it better than the ET5 and I'm hoping the dual core processor gives it better PQ and other abilities.

Wow that is eerie how similar we are thinking! St50 would be my #1 choice if I wasn't looking for passive or knew I had no plans of hooking my laptop up to my tv some. I actually have only heard great things about its 3d so I am going to head to a B&M store this weekend to do some testing to make sure I still am in love with passive 3d. The fact of all those things and how I generally watch sports during the daytime doesn't sit well.

If l6200u is stellar its a done deal. I love the sound features and all i really want is decent blacks and 20-35 input lag. If it comes through in the reviews i'll be stoked. Hopefully I'll see one this weekend.
post #56 of 390
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Originally Posted by Hotthree View Post

Wow that is eerie how similar we are thinking! St50 would be my #1 choice if I wasn't looking for passive or knew I had no plans of hooking my laptop up to my tv some. I actually have only heard great things about its 3d so I am going to head to a B&M store this weekend to do some testing to make sure I still am in love with passive 3d. The fact of all those things and how I generally watch sports during the daytime doesn't sit well.

If l6200u is stellar its a done deal. I love the sound features and all i really want is decent blacks and 20-35 input lag. If it comes through in the reviews i'll be stoked. Hopefully I'll see one this weekend.

I haven't actually seen one in person. I've looked everywhere. I've seen the ET5 and it looks nice, but it's not bezel-less, which has really grown on me.

I like the idea of the LM6700's local dimming but the blacks could stand to be blacker, or so I've read.

I'm buying my first house and my first major purchase is going to be a TV. 47" for the upstairs then at some point I'll do 55" for the basement.
post #57 of 390
Yea I agree. If I am going LG I am going for the LM7600. The sales on this tv alone have been good and its a much better than the 6700. The blacks are better than the ET5 though which is the only downside to the ET5.

If the Toshiba can deliver on decent blacks, no banding, minimum flashlighting, and and input lag I am in for one.
post #58 of 390
Got my TV yesterday. Good service from CEVA/Eagle. The guy who brought in was professional and knew what he had to do. Got it out of the box and fixed the stand and even adjusted my settings!! all within 15 min & gone!

The TV is amazing. I am not saying it because of the price I got it for ($984). 2D content is excellent. Even SD is much better compared to my 2009 SHarp LED or UN55D6400. No soap opera and lag. I played 3D using Bluray & it was stunning!! No drop in brightness in 3D at all. Only thing is I didn't feel it did a good job converting a 2D to 3D.
I put it in a family room with 3 big windows. Yes the TV screen is glass like but even with blinds open even, when the picture is on, no problem. Also no flashlighting or any other problem.

Setting up the network went with a flash. Setup using "Assited" and find the network and adjust the security settings using "Manual". Otherwise the push button setup will not recognize as it defaults to something which you may not have.

Played some Youtube/Netflix. 3D content in Youtube also look amazing. Only cavet is certain picture settings cann't be set in Mediaplayer or in Network. No big deal as I liked the way it defaulted.

I haven't had time to play with the settings yet & I plan to do it in this longweekend. I just got it yesterday evening. I liked the STANDARD mode for Sports & Movie mode for Movies. I am not expert like many of you are but my eyes didn't see any problem (Flashlighting/Lag/soapopera etc). The thin bezel makes the tv look small when on & off. Because I put it in a family room (15 x 15) which is open to the big (12x18) kitchen, the TV looks small to me. May be I need 65/70" TV
post #59 of 390
Just got it yesterday...the thing looks amazing because of the super small edges...just pure screen ...the 3D is awesome on the ps3...tried super stardust and a few other ps3 3d demos...and the passive glass were perfectly fine...box came with 4 of em...it is very thin...some of the pictures on futureshop website are missleading...it looks thick when it really isnt...check it out at the store to see how thin this LED really is...ummm had some problems with no 2D to 3D conversion but it turned out to be my hdmi cable...so just make sure you got a high speed one...the 2D to 3D looks good on some HD channels...and some barely noticible on others...havent tried blue ray 3D but im sure that will be awesome...also had some problems with a bright 4 inch line at the bottom of the screen...it went away after i reset the TV...

Some suggestions...if you are like me and you want it bright...TURN OF THE DYNALIGHT...aslo put the picture on DYNAMIC...it was really dark on the PS3 and now it looks like it should...also turn noise reduction to high for better 1080i HD channels...

There seem to bee some mirror effects?...with some 3D games on the PS3...but i dont know if thats the PS3's fault or not...overall this is an awesome TV for the price and passive 3D...got it for a little under 1,500 + warrenty...if you can get it under a 1,000 i would consider that a steal

The funny thing is when we got this TV...you then find out this year they are comming out with OLED TV's 84 inch credit card thin...

Edit/Update;

I notice some problems when the PVR changes channels from 720p to 1080i to standard...there is a noticible flicker and it looks pretty bad...maybe they can fix this in a software/firmware upgrade...i dont really recommend trying to update by internet because i tried and got an error and nothing happend...but that was enough not to try to update wireless anymore...even tho every thing was setup fine for online...also when i said the 2D to 3D wasnt noticible on some channels i should have said that it depends what program is on...if its sports than there is alot of depth...especially with basketball and the players on the court...also there is no analog L/R audio inputs on the back of the tv...it came with a L/R/Video converter?...but it caused a "humm" on the reciever...so you got to get a L/R cable converter?...that combines the audio into one jack...as i like analog sometimes.

Edit/Update 2,

Just did a recent firmware update off their website for the 47L600U and the flicker problem remains with the standard to 720p to 1080i on HD channels...it looks like the picture flickers and dies for a second or two...doesnt happen with any other HDTV i have...its a little annoyance but is it really hard to have a smooth transition?...come on tobishiba...ill be waiting for a fix in a future update and calling consumer support/emailing...IF i can find their email...also the media player doesn't play very many video files...but w/e...overall pretty happy with the TV...if anyone knows a fix for the bad transition to 720p and 1080i channels that would be great...

Edit/Update 3

I turned off 480i/480p and 720p in my PVR settings and only have 1080i running now...and there is no crazy flicker between channels.
post #60 of 390
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Originally Posted by jilla60 View Post

Got my TV yesterday. Good service from CEVA/Eagle. The guy who brought in was professional and knew what he had to do. Got it out of the box and fixed the stand and even adjusted my settings!! all within 15 min & gone!

The TV is amazing. I am not saying it because of the price I got it for ($984). 2D content is excellent. Even SD is much better compared to my 2009 SHarp LED or UN55D6400. No soap opera and lag. I played 3D using Bluray & it was stunning!! No drop in brightness in 3D at all. Only thing is I didn't feel it did a good job converting a 2D to 3D.
I put it in a family room with 3 big windows. Yes the TV screen is glass like but even with blinds open even, when the picture is on, no problem. Also no flashlighting or any other problem.

Setting up the network went with a flash. Setup using "Assited" and find the network and adjust the security settings using "Manual". Otherwise the push button setup will not recognize as it defaults to something which you may not have.

Played some Youtube/Netflix. 3D content in Youtube also look amazing. Only cavet is certain picture settings cann't be set in Mediaplayer or in Network. No big deal as I liked the way it defaulted.

I haven't had time to play with the settings yet & I plan to do it in this longweekend. I just got it yesterday evening. I liked the STANDARD mode for Sports & Movie mode for Movies. I am not expert like many of you are but my eyes didn't see any problem (Flashlighting/Lag/soapopera etc). The thin bezel makes the tv look small when on & off. Because I put it in a family room (15 x 15) which is open to the big (12x18) kitchen, the TV looks small to me. May be I need 65/70" TV

The fact that reflection seems not to be such a problem sounds great.
If you could do an input lag test, i will be eternally grateful
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