Originally Posted by scredly
Just got off the phone with Toshiba. The tech (John) and I have verified that, as suspected, Cinema Mode is only available on interlaced content - seems to basically be 3:2 pulldown - no way to verify
that it actually enables a 120Hz refresh rate - other than they say it does. I watched some basketball on the NBA channel and couldn't see any difference in the picture of guys running across the court at 10' or 6" from the screen with Cinema Mode off/on.
The tech verified that the 7200's version of ClearScan DOES process progressive content. Although the 6200 is advertised as having CleanScan - it really doesn't - it has Cinema Mode which does not have all the features as true ClearScan in the 7200 as stated in the manual on pg 119 and verified by the tech's tests on his TV simulators of these models.
Good new, the 6200 does process 1080p/24....but Cinema Mode will not enable for this content either.
I have no idea if other 120Hz TV's operate similarly. I only have this one.
Toshiba says they will kick my concerns up the ladder, about what may be construed as false advertising, regarding ClearScan/Cinema Mode in the 6200.
So, basically it's love it or leave it. For the $918 I paid for it, I'm going to keep it.
My Toshiba case # - if someone else decides to ring them up - is : 130103-005483. The notes on my case may save you some time.
i am concerned that the 55L6200U does not have a 120hz panel.
according to this discussion 24p True Cinema
, a 60hz set can handle 1080/24p with 3:2 pulldown or by switching to 48hz (2:2 pulldown). however, 60hz sets cannot do 5:5 pulldown so that feature would prove its 120hz or higher.
120hz or higher refresh rates (for 1080/60p) are required to insert a new frame using motion interpolation (e.g., MotionFlow, TruMotion, ClearFrame). toshiba describes ClearFrame 120hz
using Motion Vector Frame interpolation whereas the description for ClearScan
does not mention any such thing.
also, active 3D requires 120+ hz but passive 3D does not.
since i have not found any documentation for the 55L6200U having 5:5 pulldown or motion interpolation, i suspect that it may have a 60hz panel.
there was also uncertainty about LG models having 120hz
having said that, this set is a superb choice given its features (3D, frameless bezel, ultra-thin, 1080/24p, 4 hdmi, wifi, smart, keyboard) at sub $1000. i think this is a keeper for those that don't worry about whether they have a 60hz or 120hz set.
Toshiba USA describes ClearFrame 120Hz & ClearScan 240Hz
together but suspiciously leaves out ClearScan 120Hz. now ClearFrame 120hz
uses MEMC (motion estimation-motion compensation) to insert a generated frame. cnet reports that ClearScan 240Hz
uses MEMC to double the frame rate to 120Hz and Scanning Backlight to produce a 240 effect since flashing the backlight generates a "black" frame effect but doesn't actually generate a new frame with content.
So what is ClearScan 120Hz? there is little information available but I now believe that it is simply a 60Hz panel with Scanning Backlight to produce a 120 effect. This explains why Cinema Mode (i.e.,MEMC) is not available since that requires a 120Hz panel.
In summary, i believe the 55L6200U is a 60Hz set with Scanning Backlight whereas the 55L7200U is a 120Hz set with MEMC and Scanning Backlight.
Note that the 55L7200U has 5:5 pulldown.Edited by avsfanatic - 1/23/13 at 10:13pm