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post #331 of 367
1/24/13 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by Lloyd Hillier View Post

Hello all,

I have an issue that's not being addressed, or at least not that I can find an answer to. My 55L6200U suffers from crosstalk. I'm not sure if its my PS3 or my HDMI cable or what. My question is more along the line of is there any way to calibrate the 3D settings in the TV to fix the crosstalk, I tried dicking around with the settings and nothing seems to help. Also I have updated the firmware, or at least the TV says theirs no new updates. Would there be settings in the ps3 to fix? I use it for games and blu-rays. or maybe even in the HDMI cable. If a HDMI cable is say 1.2, or 1.3 would that cause crosstalk or just not work at all with 3D. I watched the movie Avatar and it was pretty good but still lots of crosstalk, and the game killzone 3 and COD black-ops 2 also suffer.

One more question. I had a 50" Sony Bravia TV and it had a "picture off" feature. I cant seem to find such a feature on the L6200U, not sure if it exists, but would be great if somebody knows if there is a way to get it. the reason is. I use it for my dog tongue.gif just to have some noise in the house while I'm at work.

Thank you all in advance, for your time and help.

Lloyd Hillier

If it's the same crosstalk I noticed, it had to do with the viewing angle. The TV was hung on the wall and seating was lower. Easy fix was to tilt the screen downward.
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post #332 of 367
1/24/13 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by avsfanatic View Post

i am concerned that the 55L6200U does not have a 120hz panel.

according to this discussion 24p True Cinema , a 60hz set can handle 1080/24p with 3:2 pulldown or by switching to 48hz (2:2 pulldown). however, 60hz sets cannot do 5:5 pulldown so that feature would prove its 120hz or higher.

120hz or higher refresh rates (for 1080/60p) are required to insert a new frame using motion interpolation (e.g., MotionFlow, TruMotion, ClearFrame). toshiba describes ClearFrame 120hz using Motion Vector Frame interpolation whereas the description for ClearScan does not mention any such thing.

also, active 3D requires 120+ hz but passive 3D does not.

since i have not found any documentation for the 55L6200U having 5:5 pulldown or motion interpolation, i suspect that it may have a 60hz panel.
there was also uncertainty about LG models having 120hz as well.

having said that, this set is a superb choice given its features (3D, frameless bezel, ultra-thin, 1080/24p, 4 hdmi, wifi, smart, keyboard) at sub $1000. i think this is a keeper for those that don't worry about whether they have a 60hz or 120hz set.

Update:
Toshiba USA describes ClearFrame 120Hz & ClearScan 240Hz together but suspiciously leaves out ClearScan 120Hz. now ClearFrame 120hz uses MEMC (motion estimation-motion compensation) to insert a generated frame. cnet reports that ClearScan 240Hz uses MEMC to double the frame rate to 120Hz and Scanning Backlight to produce a 240 effect since flashing the backlight generates a "black" frame effect but doesn't actually generate a new frame with content.

So what is ClearScan 120Hz? there is little information available but I now believe that it is simply a 60Hz panel with Scanning Backlight to produce a 120 effect. This explains why Cinema Mode (i.e.,MEMC) is not available since that requires a 120Hz panel.

In summary, i believe the 55L6200U is a 60Hz set with Scanning Backlight whereas the 55L7200U is a 120Hz set with MEMC and Scanning Backlight.
Note that the 55L7200U has 5:5 pulldown.
Something that I think supports your theory is I had seen someone posting the panel part number matches a LG TV that also has dubious claim to 120 Hz. I might not be describing this properly, but it was something about how it didn't actually insert picture frames as per a 'proper' 120 Hz, but a black frame to trick the eye.
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post #333 of 367
1/25/13 at 2:41pm
MY TV is doing the same thing.
I use a Digital optical cable and always have the TV on MUTE and my girlfriend noticed the whistling. At first, I didn't notice it at first.
Did you get anywhere with it?
Mine was delivered 4 days ago and now I'm on the phone with Best Buy to see what they might be able to do.

Please let me know if you got anywhere with Toshiba's Help centre.
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post #334 of 367
1/25/13 at 2:48pm
I have the Toshiba 47" (47L6200U) 120htz 1080P Smart TV and and having the same whistling noise, described in an earlier post, after the TV has been turned on for about a minute.
The noise goes away about 20 seconds after it's been turned off though.
I just bought the TV and it was delivered 4 days ago. Should I deal with the manufacturer or the point of sale, Best Buy?
I'm not all that techy, and would really appreciate some guidance.
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post #335 of 367
1/25/13 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by Jux69 View Post

Hi All,

I have a Toshiba 55 L7200U (April 2012 build) that I bought from Visions in May. I have noticed that after the TV has been on for about 10 minutes, I can hear a faint high pitch buzz coming from the TV. I have done a bunch of tests like unplugging all of my devices (video/sound) as well as trying different power bars and electrical outlets and the TV still makes this sound. The noise is present even when there is no video source but the TV is on and has "warmed" up (black screen). The noise is not related to audio and also does not increase/decrease in sound level when I change video settings like back-light or brightness.

My question is to other owners of this TV, have you guys heard anything like what I am describing? I want to get a bit more info before I call Toshiba Tech support.

Thanks!

Did you get this sorted out? I think I am having the same problem.
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post #336 of 367
1/26/13 at 8:53pm
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Originally Posted by Neild View Post

Something that I think supports your theory is I had seen someone posting the panel part number matches a LG TV that also has dubious claim to 120 Hz. I might not be describing this properly, but it was something about how it didn't actually insert picture frames as per a 'proper' 120 Hz, but a black frame to trick the eye.

yeah, there are some unhappy LG owners that discovered trumotion 120Hz was disabled for them ... does that sound familiar to a disabled cinema mode?
the discussion is here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1408659/lg-trumotion-missing-specific-to-42lm-47lm-55lm-series-excludes-lm7600-and-newer
Edited by avsfanatic - 1/26/13 at 9:01pm
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post #337 of 367
1/28/13 at 12:54pm
With Toshiba announcing their new "Cloud" tvs to be coming out in march. Will there be any more updates to our TVs or will they just be pushed aside and forgotten about.
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post #338 of 367
2/9/13 at 5:11pm
Any luck with getting cinema mode enabled?

I only get it with my roger called box (1080i)

Cinema mode (120hz) is disable for any progressive setting??? Had the blur.. especially coming for a 120hz Samsung.

Any insight would be great.. btw im on
0.8.5.oct 242012
FW 0150
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post #339 of 367
2/10/13 at 9:56pm
Hey, all of a sudden when I select 3D mode all I get is static and with a little colour and the usual warning message (eye fatigue etc. etc.). I konw long have the option to switch between SBS and top and bottom (though I made sure it was on the right one through the Quick menu). Anyone know what is going on? Did I change a setting by accident? I have a 47L6200U.

Scary, as I just bought the TV a few months ago...
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post #340 of 367
2/18/13 at 12:01pm
Hey everyone first time poster here. I've had my 47l6200 for a few months and I absolutely love it. In coming from a 42" Vizio 3d set that got stolen. I love the thin design both in width and along the edges. The picture is superior to the Vizio set and the 3d is spectacular. I have a ps3 and directv box hooked up via hdmi. I don't have a good sound system but I have a stereo with aux input. When I plug my aux cable into the set the stereo makes a hissing sound with no audio. This happens with both the ps3 and directv box. If I plug my phone into the stereo it works perfectly. I have the latest firmware installed (November 2012 I believe it is). Anyone able to replicate this and provide any help? Apologies if this has been asked and answered before. I did a Google search and browsed this thread but with 12 pages is a lot to read.

Thanks for any help.
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post #341 of 367
2/19/13 at 8:04pm
Had the same problem @Decado2... reset seemed to fix it ....which means you have to rescan channels and redo your wifi settings ...a real pain
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post #342 of 367
3/5/13 at 6:51pm
I unplugged for about 5 secs. And it worked.
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post #343 of 367
3/5/13 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by blakedecoste View Post

SOMEBODY HELP ME! Just bought the 55L6200 today and cannot get it to detect my wifi. I've done the update from Toshiba via the network (hard wired) and still nothing. I have no idea what to do! I've never had any problems with any devices connecting to my router until today. My router is a Netgear WNR2000
.cost me $70 for 2 signal boosters which plug into the eletrical outlets one at the router end the other at the t.v.
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post #344 of 367
3/5/13 at 6:59pm
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post #345 of 367
3/5/13 at 6:59pm
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post #346 of 367
3/5/13 at 7:02pm
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post #347 of 367
3/21/13 at 10:29am
Hi all I'm about to get the 55l7200 delivered after returning a lg 55lm6200 that had horrible lag.I'm looking for some input on some picture settings that will give a good vivid picture.Any input with some settings will help get me started.I'm looking forward to getting this TV. If u guys have any tips with anything I should know about this set,that would be great.I have read most of the earlier posts. Thanks
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post #348 of 367
4/4/13 at 7:32am
If anyone is still curious, Input Lag Display database has the 55" unit with 24ms input lag. That is about 1.5 frame of delay which is pretty good for a non monitor.

http://www.displaylag.com/display-database/#participants-list

I just ordered one, and it'll be delivered next week.
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post #349 of 367
4/6/13 at 1:01pm
47" $599 shipped.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2021848&sku=T24-4760&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=WxHRncoD05Y-g.a020cO0LhUEvwaBhiPng
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post #350 of 367
4/8/13 at 1:31pm
Has anyone experienced the Youtube is not working with only black screen?
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post #351 of 367
4/10/13 at 1:25pm
TV is good so far for gaming (I play Street Fighter) and movie watching. I am having a bit of trouble with watching sports. Some things look a bit grainy and I notice it's only displaying at 60hz. How do you set it to the full 120hz?
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post #352 of 367
4/11/13 at 8:05am
I did not get a 2012 55L7200 with passive 3D so I was eagerly awaiting the 2013 L7300 models. Excited about the size moving up to 58" and having built in Intel WiDi but disappointed with Toshiba going Active 3D.

http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/tv/58L7350U_spec.pdf
Edited by E55 KEV - 4/11/13 at 8:12am
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post #353 of 367
4/14/13 at 10:20am
Please help!!! I just got the 55L6200U tv and i love it but i am having an issue that i cant figure out. I have one of the older 60gb PS3's and the HDMI port is bad on it (i have tried 3 cables on 2 different tv's and it keeps saying "no signal") Since this TV has "colorstream" instead of traditional component, i am having issues. I used the cable adapter the tv came with but am only getting video and no audio. Tried going composite using the cable adapter and selecting "video 2" like the manual says and the tv keeps saying "no signal". How can i get my ps3 hooked up any way besides HDMI? Thanks for any help
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post #354 of 367
4/15/13 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by Jason Black View Post

Please help!!! I just got the 55L6200U tv and i love it but i am having an issue that i cant figure out. I have one of the older 60gb PS3's and the HDMI port is bad on it (i have tried 3 cables on 2 different tv's and it keeps saying "no signal") Since this TV has "colorstream" instead of traditional component, i am having issues. I used the cable adapter the tv came with but am only getting video and no audio. Tried going composite using the cable adapter and selecting "video 2" like the manual says and the tv keeps saying "no signal". How can i get my ps3 hooked up any way besides HDMI? Thanks for any help
You have to reset the PS3 cause it locks its video settings so while the ps3 is off hold down the power button for like 20 seconds...Or hook it up to the TV it works on and then reset the PS3 video settings on that
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post #355 of 367
4/16/13 at 6:23am
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Originally Posted by Jason Black View Post

Please help!!! I just got the 55L6200U tv and i love it but i am having an issue that i cant figure out. I have one of the older 60gb PS3's and the HDMI port is bad on it (i have tried 3 cables on 2 different tv's and it keeps saying "no signal") Since this TV has "colorstream" instead of traditional component, i am having issues. I used the cable adapter the tv came with but am only getting video and no audio. Tried going composite using the cable adapter and selecting "video 2" like the manual says and the tv keeps saying "no signal". How can i get my ps3 hooked up any way besides HDMI? Thanks for any help

If you are using colorstream, check if HDMI CEC and make sure to turn it OFF. I have learn this the hard way on my "videoke" machine smile.gif.
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post #356 of 367
4/16/13 at 4:21pm
now im having 3d issues. When i switch to 3d, i just get a screen of colored static. It worked fine the first few days. I have the hdmi cable and 3d blu-ray player. I dont think its the player or the movie because they work fine in 2d and even when i try to do the 2d to 3d conversion now, i get the colored static screen. any ideas?
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post #357 of 367
4/17/13 at 2:25pm
Did you recently do a firmware update on the TV? If so then you need to do a TV reset so hit menu>settings> scroll down till you see tv reset

BTW does anymore know how to change video settings while using Netflix?
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post #358 of 367
4/18/13 at 7:39pm
Hello everyone, I am new to this thread. I currently own a L6200U that I got for $600. So far I love it but it has a few quirks that take some getting used to. I have updated to the latest 8.5 firmware

I have two questions:

1) What is a good mouse to use with the TV? I like the browser but the mouse I am using Microsoft wireless 3500 is a bit choppy, so I am wondering if anyone has any better experience with it and what mouse are you using?

2) How do you use the IR blaster to shut off said devices? I seriously sat infront of the TV for 1hr and a half turning the TV on and off, trying different combinations not able to get it working. But what's frustrating is that in the test it successfully turns on and off the device so I know it can do it...

Thanks.

Thoughts on the TV:
-I have tried the 2D to 3D conversion and it is minimal even though I turned it up all the way.
-I like the PQ using the settings that someone recommended in this thread. The TV Is so thin that the sound vibrates the whole TV causing the sound to be unable to get that loud. It gets a little frustrating because it means the quality suffers just due to the design, but it seems everyone wants things to be thin.
-I got it to work with Hulu which was awesome and youtube (I prefer it here than the App because for some reason you can't use the keyboard on the youtube app, please someone correct me if I am wrong). Like I said before it really does need a mouse for the browser, and after getting used to it, I like the browser.

Please help with the Mouse and IR Blaster.

Thanks.
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post #359 of 367
4/20/13 at 11:34pm
So what is the overall feeling about the 55L7200U? I notice that Best Buy has it for under $1k right now, and I'm hoping to find a good passive 55" set for under 1k. This thread sounded positive at first, but seemed to take a turn for a worse. How do people feel about this set, especially at that price? The 240hz is awfully good at that price point.
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post #360 of 367
4/21/13 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by Irishdoom View Post

So what is the overall feeling about the 55L7200U? I notice that Best Buy has it for under $1k right now, and I'm hoping to find a good passive 55" set for under 1k. This thread sounded positive at first, but seemed to take a turn for a worse. How do people feel about this set, especially at that price? The 240hz is awfully good at that price point.

I'd like to know also. That's a great price at BB. I would like recommendations (or not) from owners. I also want to know if the 7200U has decent sound. I prefer a HDTV with decent sound quality as I don't fire up my 7.1 system just to watch the news or general TV broadcasts. Thanks.
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