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post #61 of 390
Comments trickling in from users who are (slowly) getting their TVs seem very positive.

I'm gonna pull the trigger on this one.

47L6200U for the upstairs, and a few months from now (for Christmas), 55L7200U for the downstairs.
post #62 of 390
I myself am in search of a tv and passive's (due to their excellent 3d) are my choice (so far, if i change it will be only for plasma).

Anyway, i have found Amazon byers reviews (sorry cant post link due to not having yet 3 posts) on Toshiba L6200U to be quite helpful...
So far for what i've read there:
good picture quality, some flashlighting may occur on some screens, good design, good motion, passive 3d (which means GOOD) and unforunately a bad media player of the tv (can not play most video files, including divx).

Once again: Those are not my conclusions (havent seen the tv so far), only based on buyers reviews on Amazon (which reviews can be misleading).
post #63 of 390
If you go over to slickdeals. There are several who have gotten them. Also flash is not supported currently. It has a sheet of glass over the screen so it is glossy as well. Most of the problems seem to be related to the keyboard and apps, ect.
post #64 of 390
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Originally Posted by Jchop View Post

If you go over to slickdeals. There are several who have gotten them. Also flash is not supported currently. It has a sheet of glass over the screen so it is glossy as well. Most of the problems seem to be related to the keyboard and apps, ect.

Most of the comments over there are very positive concerning PQ. Most of the bugs appear to be firmware related.

I wish a professional review was floating around teh internetz though.
post #65 of 390
Since this TV offers Local-Dimming turning OFF the Dynalight setting will essentially turn OFF the Local Dimming. Basically making the TV look like a CCFL LCD. Leave the Dynalight feature ON.
post #66 of 390
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Originally Posted by ruudboek View Post

The fact that reflection seems not to be such a problem sounds great.
If you could do an input lag test, i will be eternally grateful

I would. Can anyone point me how best to do it & present.

So far picture is fantastic even with SD channells.

No reflection when picture is on for me. Like I said I have put it in the family room with 3 big windows. The only downsides I have seen so far are

1. Like I said before only certain media files can be played. I have the media player hooked up, so no problem for me! I believe when the software is updated, this will be solved.
2. Audio is ok not good but that is with my Samsung as well. Most of us don't use the tv audio & Hence ok.
3. 2D to 3d conversion is ok. but native 3D is Awesome!!

I have not seen any other problem so far.
post #67 of 390
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Originally Posted by BFJ 96 View Post

Since this TV offers Local-Dimming turning OFF the Dynalight setting will essentially turn OFF the Local Dimming. Basically making the TV look like a CCFL LCD. Leave the Dynalight feature ON.

People can turn it on or off whatever their preference...i can tell you it looks like GARBAGE with it on...i would turn it on if you are allergic to bright colors and have a sun allergy...



Anyone know why the "Expert Picture Settings" are grayed out under "Advanced Picture Settings"?
post #68 of 390
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Anyone know why the "Expert Picture Settings" are grayed out under "Advanced Picture Settings"?

For some picture modes it is grayed out. If you select "Standard" for example, it is not.
post #69 of 390
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Originally Posted by jilla60 View Post

I would. Can anyone point me how best to do it & present.

So far picture is fantastic even with SD channells.

No reflection when picture is on for me. Like I said I have put it in the family room with 3 big windows. The only downsides I have seen so far are

1. Like I said before only certain media files can be played. I have the media player hooked up, so no problem for me! I believe when the software is updated, this will be solved.
2. Audio is ok not good but that is with my Samsung as well. Most of us don't use the tv audio & Hence ok.
3. 2D to 3d conversion is ok. but native 3D is Awesome!!

I have not seen any other problem so far.


No problem, the best program to test input lag with is the program SMTT 2.0

You can download the program here:

http://smtt.thomasthiemann.com/index_en.html

It is very simple to use. It is much more accurate then the input lag program from flatpanelsHD.

If you have a normal CRT monitor, then that would be perfect to test with, however a laptop is also possible, but not preferable, because the laptop screen could also suffer from some input lag.

So the steps are:

1. If available, hook up the CRT monitor to the vga port of your laptop or desktop.
2. Connect the HDTV to the hdmi port of the desktop or laptop.
3. Make sure that the same image is shown own both the HDTV aswell as the CRT monitor or the Laptop screen (dual monitor: clone mode).
4. Select the game mode on your HDTV.
5. Turn off the lights in the room.
6. Run the program.
7. Take several photos in which the screen of both the HDTV as well as the CRT monitor or laptop screen is visible.
8. The difference of the number shown on the HDTV and the CRT monitor or laptop screen represents the input lag.
9. Post the photos here if you like, or inform us about the lag.

Here you can find a photo of what it looks like when you run it:

http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imageno...333121317.jpeg
post #70 of 390
Thanks. I don't have a CRT monitor. I have to use my laptop. I will do it & let you know.
post #71 of 390
jilla60 thanks for testing the input lag. can't wait to see the results. can you test for 4:4:4 subsampling also? thanks in advance
post #72 of 390
has anyone been able to get cinema mode to work? It just stays grayed out no matter what mode I put the tv in.

Also anyone having problems with getting ePortal to work? I have established and internet connection but When I hit the ePortal or Netflix button it does nothing.

It seems a little buggy. I have not updated the Firmware yet. I still at April 11th 0.4.6.0
post #73 of 390
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Originally Posted by jilla60 View Post

Thanks. I don't have a CRT monitor. I have to use my laptop. I will do it & let you know.

Just one more thing, SMTT 2.0 costs 5 euro, i can image that you don't feel like paying for that. Also, it currently only works with 64-bit windows.
However, you can also use the input lag testtool from flatpanels HD which is free.
You can download that one here:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.ph...&id=1229335064

It is just as simple to use as the SMTT 2.0 tool.
post #74 of 390
I ordered one of these today to replace my Sony SXRD. I bought it thru Amazon from Paul's TVs, I then went to Pauls site where the same set is listed for $500 more. I guess they must be selling pretty well, prices seem to be going up. I've been shopping for a few weeks, this seems to be a well rounded set for my limited budget.
I will post my impressions with the set in a few weeks, hopefully the set should ship this week.
post #75 of 390
ya it is a good tv for the money I got it from Amazon for $984! Be sure to update the firmware, it is better after the firmware update. I have the 55L6200U
post #76 of 390
anyone got any calibration settings for this Toshiba yet? I got the Disney WOW and used it. It's really helped the picture. Just wondering if anyone has done an ISF professional calibration ect?
post #77 of 390
There's a review up on www.televisioninfo.com of the 7200 model but the 6200 should be the same, it scored excellent results!smile.gif
Edited by SurfingMatt27 - 6/8/12 at 10:20am
post #78 of 390
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Originally Posted by SurfingMatt27 View Post

Theres a review up on television.info.com of the 7200 model but the 6200 should be the same, it scored excellent results!smile.gif

a direct link to the review would be nice. I can't find it on that site.
Edited by E55 KEV - 6/8/12 at 5:09am
post #79 of 390
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a direct link to the review would be nice. I can't find it on that site.

I updated the link, on the website it's on the right hand side under latest reviews.
post #80 of 390
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Originally Posted by SurfingMatt27 View Post

I updated the link, on the website it's on the right hand side under latest reviews.

heres the actual direct link - http://www.televisioninfo.com/content/Toshiba-47L7200U-LCD-HDTV-Review.htm

I've been dying to see a pic of the remote keyboard:

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post #81 of 390
Is the l7200u available yet? It is not on any of the sites I frequent...

I am dying to see information on this tv...Money is burning a hole in my pocket and the LM7600 deals have been all the more enticing lately. I am still trying to hold off to see input lag on this tv.

The only down side to this tv over the LG is the smart tv (but a nice blu-ray player suite can solve this), but its not that big of a deciding factor like the blacks and input lag are though. It's hard to just not go plasma.
Edited by Hotthree - 6/8/12 at 12:58pm
post #82 of 390
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Originally Posted by SurfingMatt27 View Post

There's a review up on www.televisioninfo.com of the 7200 model but the 6200 should be the same, it scored excellent results!smile.gif

I believe 7200 and 6200 have different backlighting. L7200 has a crude form of local dimming whereas l6200 does not. L6200 dynamically adjusts the backlight of the whole panel to increase the dynamic range. Also l7200 runs at 240hz, though I don't know if it affects picture quality ...

The review mentioned some negatives ... Uncomfortable and crosstalk prone 3d glasses, and not so great smart tv features. For those of you who have used it for some time, do you agree with the assessment?

Thanks,
Tony
post #83 of 390
No. That review is rubbish in regards for the 3d. There is absolutely no cross talk on my set. So what they are seeing I don't know unless it's 7200 specific. I do have the 55" L6200U though which is different. The flashlighting is also terrible on the two LG sets I've had.

I've owned both the55" LG 7600 and 8600 and the black levels and contrast are better than both those LG's. Also the 3d is just as good if not better. The only downside as mentioned is the Smart apps stuff. However that will I'm sure in time be better as new firmware updates come out.
post #84 of 390
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Originally Posted by yoshi47 View Post


People can turn it on or off whatever their preference...i can tell you it looks like GARBAGE with it on...i would turn it on if you are allergic to bright colors and have a sun allergy...

What you say is true, about what ever the preference. I am just giving my experience as an owner of the 55SV670U TOSHIBA which is a Local-Dimming TV. When you turn-OFF Dynalight, you in fact turn-OFF the Local-Dimming making the TV look like a CCFL LCD.
post #85 of 390
I'm interested in the 55L6200U but not that familiar with TVs now a days. Recently my old DLP died and interested in a 3D TV. I am leaning toward passive 3D. I watch mainly sports, and have an Xbox. The other TV that has caught my eye is LG 55LM6700. Any recomendation/suggestions from you guys? To the novice (that's me) it seems like Toshiba is not as big of a player as it used to be in TVs.
post #86 of 390
Just my opinion as I've said alreadu having owned both. The Toshiba is better, better deeper blacks, no flashlighting problems and the 3d is just as good if not better than the LG LM6700. I had the LG LM8600 55" which is a couple steps higher than the 6700 and it is still not as good as the toshiba 55L6200U. Not to mention the price I got the Toshiba hands down is the better deal. If you can get the Toshiba for under $1500 you are getting a good deal.
post #87 of 390
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Originally Posted by Jchop View Post

Just my opinion as I've said alreadu having owned both. The Toshiba is better, better deeper blacks, no flashlighting problems and the 3d is just as good if not better than the LG LM6700. I had the LG LM8600 55" which is a couple steps higher than the 6700 and it is still not as good as the toshiba 55L6200U. Not to mention the price I got the Toshiba hands down is the better deal. If you can get the Toshiba for under $1500 you are getting a good deal.


Thanks for you help Jchop. One question regarding passive 3D as it is regarded to FPR. From my understanding you need to be viewing the TV from a certain height. In my living room I have some stadium seating set up which mean 2 different heights of viewing. Will this be an issue? Should I look at active 3d for this set up?
post #88 of 390
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Originally Posted by Jchop View Post

Just my opinion as I've said alreadu having owned both. The Toshiba is better, better deeper blacks, no flashlighting problems and the 3d is just as good if not better than the LG LM6700. I had the LG LM8600 55" which is a couple steps higher than the 6700 and it is still not as good as the toshiba 55L6200U. Not to mention the price I got the Toshiba hands down is the better deal. If you can get the Toshiba for under $1500 you are getting a good deal.
Jchop really how would you rate this TV compared to LG i had the 8600 detail looked good but the flashlighing, and halos was really bad which swapped out for the sammy es7500...Now my kid has gotten bad headaches from watching the active 3d, And I might have to go passive 3d yet again...I mean this TV looks just like the LG in photos if seen, never have seen one live and what up the 7200u its now where to be found
post #89 of 390
The Toshiba compared to the LG8600 is better. The color and black levels are better. The blacks go deeper which give a better contrast. The colors are also better within range and look great after calibration.
The only downside is the Apps thus far. Which could be made better but they function. I'm sure a firmware update could really take these further. The set is dual core as well.

As far as seating if you do get to high off axis above zero you do begin to see some crosstalk. But it's nothing any different I"ve experienced from any other passive or active 3d set. But overall the 3d delivers a great picture.

The thing about the LG's having owned 3 is the flashlighting and clouding was horrible, and the re-booting issue on one. They seem hit and miss.

From my understanding the Toshiba 6200U and 7200U panels are AU Optronics. Which is a very good panel. I've noticed the 3d has great depth and a very good pop out effect. But as with any 3d tv seating distance will make 3d okay or great. I set approx 10ft away from mine and its' great. Watched Imax Under the Sea with my family last night and it was brilliant. The Cod scene and pop out were great!

Overall I'd say it's a better set than the Lg's. I've had no issues thus far besides a few hiccups and the firmware update took care of them and that was involving the Apps ect. I've read other reviews that a few have had issues with flashlighting ect. However one must understand that Edge Lit LED will have a little it's just the nature. Having said that the Toshiba at least mine has the least amount of flashlighting I've seen with the exception of some very expensive Samsungs. I must say though mine has none even on very dark black scenes. Settings brightness ect being properly adjusted will also make a difference. hope this helps those wondering about this Toshiba.
post #90 of 390
I would really appreciate if any of guys would be able to do an input lag test.
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