CNET reviews ST50

sounds great except for 3d - even though that is not very quantifiable - shows more xtalk than most competetors- it doesn't bode well for those who consider 3d imporatant.

Is there any chance the st50 65 inch would be better at 3d ?

Why wouldnt Panasonic improve 3d this year? Would there be a firmware upgrade to fix this 3d problem?

3d. Ehh...... what's that?

I would think unlikely. If anything, cross talk would be more noticeable. Although, this is my logical assumption, so i may be wrong. At least i do know that 3D has a better immersive effect at larger sizes since it fills up you peripheral vision more.

Damn, that review is kind of giving me buyers remorse about my Samsung 59D7000.

Equal or better picture quality than the VT30? Wow

Sorely lacking? Where have you been?

The 7000 is the 2011 CNET winner for best PQ and TV??

Certainly the best bang for the buck. I saw the UT50 and even that set impressed me. I think we may be seeing some of the Pioneer tech spill over into the new series. Getting these sets to Kuro levels can be foreseen, but a lower cost factor has to weigh in before it can be achieved.


Ian

Did you read the review or skim it?

3D is equal to the VT30 while using a film noted for it's problems with crosstalk. Also, the sets the ST50 was compared to are the top and most expensive TVs last year.

Sorely lacking? I think you're exaggerating.

''its color accuracy and gamma are superb, allbeit not quite reference.'' Color isn't quite perfect''

So, according to Katzmaier ST50 color accuracy is superb but not quite reference, not quite perfect. What does that mean

Hope panasonic enjoys it while they have this.

Once oled hits everything else will be has-beens.

I think they meant 3D content in the marketplace, such as movies.

Except for the price. A lot of people will not want to spend significantly more money for a new technology that hasn't been put through the paces yet (i.e. extensive home use).

Ugh, seriously. I'm so tired of people saying "forget about plasma! OLED is where it's at!". It's going to be a while before OLED competes with plasma on quality, choice, and price. I believe there's been one OLED announced for release this year, a 55" LG, and it's going to be $8000. Yes, OLED has the potential of outshining plasma, but it will probably before a few years before they start landing in most people's households.

NICE! VT30 performance or slightly better in a mid level plasma thats value priced means WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER folks!


3D is a bonus feature that never needs to be used.

That's my theory as well. Just bought a 65GT30 and I figure my next TV will be an OLED sometime around 2016.

Exactly.

It means just what it says: ST50 is really, really good (superb) but not the best he has ever seen (reference).

Not really - 2d wise The Sony nx 720 an edge lit led gives a Plasma like display. Cnet listed it as their cnet 2011 winner .
Inky blacks & accurate color make the Bravia a superb panel .

Huh? The Sony nx 720 is LED-lit LCD television. Not what I'm talking about at all. OLED is a completely different technology.

Forgive me, you're right.

As a D7000 owner: read the same review and I didn't feel buyer's remorse at all.

DKatz had the VT30 as a "hair" or "nose" better than the D7000 PQ...and now he says the ST is "equal" or "slightly better" than the VT30 was.

Improvements, yes....but only slight in my mind....and considering the 59D7000 for me is $400 cheaper than the new 60" ST50 .....I'd still take it today....

The ST50 sounds like a great set, but don't feel so bad - the D7000 is no slouch.

I know but that tv bring " only " led is giving off near Plasma perfection

Samsung has already anounced its oled. They say it will cost a little more then the top line lcd/plasma, which sounds sub $7k usd.

That $8k is the LG price in Korea, noting is known outside of that.

Anyone that thinks the first samsung oled won't be better then the top of the line samsung plasma hasn't been paying attention to oled news.

No, it means that color isn't really that good. Color is accurate or it is not accurate. You won't get a really really good new 50 inch flatscreen for that kind of price ($1.300). If that was the case i would buy me one tomorrow.

Its a really, really good flatscreen in its price class, nothing more nothing less.

That's a ridiculous comment.

I guess you own a ST50 and consider its color to be superb