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post #1741 of 4575
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post

Why not just play on PC? Seems like a waste of the console benefits to go that route. I've never played a game with a mouse and keyboard so it would be starting all over and I'd lose the comfort of sitting on the sofa, that's a deal breaker.

Trust me, I would prefer to play on the PC but all my friends play on Xbox and PC games are full of hackers. And I've been playing PC games for 15 years, so picking up a controller and trying to play shooters was just not in the cards for me.

I play at a desk but I've seen pics of a lot of XIM users who play in their living rooms. Some creative setups here: http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=7786.0

I'm still barely over 1.0 K/D, but with a controller I'm sure it'd be 0.5.
Edited by Biggrich76 - 12/1/12 at 12:37pm
post #1742 of 4575
Does it really feel exactly like the mouse used to on PC though?
post #1743 of 4575
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Does it really feel exactly like the mouse used to on PC though?

Yep. It's slightly more responsive on some games, IMO, but it's pretty dead on.
post #1744 of 4575
Damn, that must be a pretty overwhelming advantage then.
post #1745 of 4575
Ugh, got a care package with 2 seconds left in a game the other night. Care package contents - Swarm.
post #1746 of 4575
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Originally Posted by hushh View Post

Ugh, got a care package with 2 seconds left in a game the other night. Care package contents - Swarm.

I wonder how many kills the swarm gets you when you get it though? I got a VTOL Warship in a care package the other day and got 20 kills with it on Hijacked. lol.
post #1747 of 4575
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Originally Posted by juke_box View Post

I wonder how many kills the swarm gets you when you get it though? I got a VTOL Warship in a care package the other day and got 20 kills with it on Hijacked. lol.

It depends on the map. I've gotten two in care packages. One was Slums and that got me probably 15-20 kills and the other was on Turbine and that only got me maybe 10.

I'd say on average the swarm will give you the most kills of any streak. The VTOL is really good but it can be shot down. The swarm really has no defense except to use flak jacket and hope for an indirect hit or to camp out inside until it's over.
post #1748 of 4575
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Originally Posted by bd2003 View Post

Damn, that must be a pretty overwhelming advantage then.

This has been argued to death, and it's probably one of the reasons Microsoft won't include native Mouse/KB support. The only advantage for me is that I'm able to play how I like, it certainly doesn't give me any unfair advantage over people using modded controllers, etc. I don't want to get too far off topic here so I will just give you some numbers.

AVS XIM users
JoKer FCF KDR - 1.11
Mystaphyer KDR - 1.60

AVS Non-XIM users
A Sneaky Shark - 1.83
bucwylde23 - 2.31
I 4M CONM4N - 1.82
Dubs4President - 1.52

* Disclaimer: This is just a small sample of the folks I play with, there are many more XIM users and Contoller users who have higher KDRs.

Back on topic, I was having some serious lag last night and even got logged out of Xbox Live twice in the middle of games before finally giving up and going to bed. After struggling through some serious lag for the past few days I was reading that setting a static IP for the Xbox and forwarding port 3074 has helped some people so I'm going to give that a try.
post #1749 of 4575
Anyone else place into league play yet? I did randomly run into jammy in one match, but didnt recognize any other names. I lost a few placement matches but still somehow managed to get into platinum in moshpit....I dunno if my ranking from the trial season helped me out.

Word is you'll display your highest ranking on your global playercard after first season is over, so my top 10 platinum should look pretty spiffy. But I'm mostly playing it just for the fun of it, the matches are way more intense and the outcome actually matters.
post #1750 of 4575
A co-worker has a XIM and i borrowed it to try it out a while back in MW3 or Blops 1 can't remember.

Anyways, I didn't really feel like it helped much at all. Probably helps for fine aiming like sniping but I don't have much of a problem with that anyways.

It was definitely more cumbersome to use IMO and i much prefer to use a scuf controller. I think it's all just personal preference.
post #1751 of 4575
So which game modes is everyone playing now? I've noticed everyone is playing different modes since switching to Blops 2. I'm still a Dom fan myself. Seems that I die a ton in Hardpoint, maybe it's just me.
post #1752 of 4575
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Originally Posted by Biggrich76 View Post

This has been argued to death, and it's probably one of the reasons Microsoft won't include native Mouse/KB support. The only advantage for me is that I'm able to play how I like, it certainly doesn't give me any unfair advantage over people using modded controllers, etc. I don't want to get too far off topic here so I will just give you some numbers.
AVS XIM users
JoKer FCF KDR - 1.11
Mystaphyer KDR - 1.60
AVS Non-XIM users
A Sneaky Shark - 1.83
bucwylde23 - 2.31
I 4M CONM4N - 1.82
Dubs4President - 1.52
* Disclaimer: This is just a small sample of the folks I play with, there are many more XIM users and Contoller users who have higher KDRs.
Back on topic, I was having some serious lag last night and even got logged out of Xbox Live twice in the middle of games before finally giving up and going to bed. After struggling through some serious lag for the past few days I was reading that setting a static IP for the Xbox and forwarding port 3074 has helped some people so I'm going to give that a try.
Conman and buc both use Scuf, not sure about sneaky or dubs.
post #1753 of 4575
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Originally Posted by Biggrich76 View Post

This has been argued to death, and it's probably one of the reasons Microsoft won't include native Mouse/KB support. The only advantage for me is that I'm able to play how I like, it certainly doesn't give me any unfair advantage over people using modded controllers, etc. I don't want to get too far off topic here so I will just give you some numbers.
AVS XIM users
JoKer FCF KDR - 1.11
Mystaphyer KDR - 1.60
AVS Non-XIM users
A Sneaky Shark - 1.83
bucwylde23 - 2.31
I 4M CONM4N - 1.82
Dubs4President - 1.52
* Disclaimer: This is just a small sample of the folks I play with, there are many more XIM users and Contoller users who have higher KDRs.
Back on topic, I was having some serious lag last night and even got logged out of Xbox Live twice in the middle of games before finally giving up and going to bed. After struggling through some serious lag for the past few days I was reading that setting a static IP for the Xbox and forwarding port 3074 has helped some people so I'm going to give that a try.

Hmmm... You forgot J4mmy - 0.02
post #1754 of 4575
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Originally Posted by Skipdalou View Post

Hmmm... You forgot J4mmy - 0.02
post #1755 of 4575
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Originally Posted by General Kenobi View Post


Hah! That made me laugh.
post #1756 of 4575
Lol Good Stuff. My KD is not stellar im not no beast. The buck dosnt stop here nor am i the conman either. But i am the master of worthless guns and combos.
post #1757 of 4575
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Originally Posted by rudubb1n View Post

Lol Good Stuff. My KD is not stellar im not no beast. The buck dosnt stop here nor am i the conman either. But i am the master of worthless guns and combos.

And gas. Don't forget the gas.
post #1758 of 4575
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Originally Posted by Skipdalou View Post

Hmmm... You forgot J4mmy - 0.02

Nice.

There's a reason Buc, Conman and Shark get so many kills....because I soften up the targets for them and then they run in for the killing blow.
I may be a lousy shot, but I'm a team player.
post #1759 of 4575
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Originally Posted by jammybastard View Post

Nice.
There's a reason Buc, Conman and Shark get so many kills....because I soften up the targets for them and then they run in for the killing blow.
I may be a lousy shot, but I'm a team player.

Jammys dirty work is always appreciated. I know I always try harder for objectives knowing that hes putting his butt on the line over and over.
post #1760 of 4575
Sigh......rather than type up ANOTHER rant detailing a problem I have with BLOPS II, I am going to let this video do the talking for me. To sum it up, these FREAKING PISTOLS, have got to have a nerf, it is getting insane.

post #1761 of 4575
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Originally Posted by jammybastard View Post

Nice.
There's a reason Buc, Conman and Shark get so many kills....because I soften up the targets for them and then they run in for the killing blow.
I may be a lousy shot, but I'm a team player.

Oh, I know, I know! I love playing with the Jamster. We've had this discussion before and there's nobody I'd rather have on my team.
post #1762 of 4575
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

Sigh......rather than type up ANOTHER rant detailing a problem I have with BLOPS II, I am going to let this video do the talking for me. To sum it up, these FREAKING PISTOLS, have got to have a nerf, it is getting insane.

was that dubs smile.gif
post #1763 of 4575
I will use the Kap-40 today for a bunch of games and I will bet I do not get 1/3 of the kills he got in that video. He obviously was on the right side of the lag for that video. You can see a few times in that lower hallway where the enemy was aiming 6 feet to his left.

The community always figures this stuff out and through 41+ hours I have been killed by all pistols combined a total of 70 times. I don't think it's that easy to dominate with them.
post #1764 of 4575
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Originally Posted by juke_box View Post

So which game modes is everyone playing now? I've noticed everyone is playing different modes since switching to Blops 2. I'm still a Dom fan myself. Seems that I die a ton in Hardpoint, maybe it's just me.


TDM and Kill Confirmed as always for me. 36 out of 41.25 hours played in either TDM or KC. smile.gif
post #1765 of 4575
HA that guy got most of his kills with kill streaks. Im mostly a UAV hunter killer / Care package guy. I have had 50- 15 matches with a pistol before. Its fun. but that guy really isnt showcasing anything fantastic....

Ask people that have played against someone that is competent with a pistol. They are definitive right now. at least for fast paced game modes like KC.
post #1766 of 4575
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Originally Posted by Myrtledog View Post

I will use the Kap-40 today for a bunch of games and I will bet I do not get 1/3 of the kills he got in that video. He obviously was on the right side of the lag for that video. You can see a few times in that lower hallway where the enemy was aiming 6 feet to his left.
The community always figures this stuff out and through 41+ hours I have been killed by all pistols combined a total of 70 times. I don't think it's that easy to dominate with them.

Well I don't mean to pretend that everyone is going to get 60+ kills with them, my point though is that the pistols are TOO POWERFUL and Fist's video shows a good example of how and he explains why. I'm seeing a lot of people run them as primary weapons when we all can probably agree, they shouldn't WANT to run them as primary weapons because pistols shouldn't even be competitive that way. None of us here are "Fist good", the guy is a God at CoD, but when people like him show things like this and people like him call for nerfs and show just how insanely overpowered some of these things can be, I pay attention, especially after encountering a shitload of KAP40's recently, online.

I personally think this "balance" many people were trumpeting early on with BLOPS II, is a mirage. I might be in the minority, but I think the weapons are balanced terribly and a lot of that has to do with the map design. Snipers have it made in this game due to some remarkable sight lines on high traffic areas....BUT, a lot of the combat benefits people that run with Shotguns or those god damn knifers, so what do you see a lot of in TDM and Domination? Snipers and Shotgunners. I thought the SMG guys really had it made in BLOPS, but I was wrong, it's the Shotgunners that win a lot of 1v1 fights. People like me that use LMG's and AR's are just afterthoughts in BLOPS II, the game designers are almost penalizing you for using them. For me to maintain my BLOPS I KDR which was 1.70 - 1.80 I would have to snipe in this game, but in BLOPS I, I was almost exclusively an AR player. I'm currently at a 1.47 on my GiantM0nkeyman account and that is dropping FAST from a high of 1.64 around Thanksgiving because I'm at such a remarkable disadvantage in 1v1 fights with the SCAR or QBB LSW, PLUS, in spite of an Internet connection that is probably faster than 90% of US households, and as rock solid as it gets, I know and can tell, that the lag compensation is costing me at least 20% in kills. The game is just full of warts and flaws right now! The best way of describing it would be that it's a supermodel with severe mental problems. On the outside, it looks perfect, but the more you're around it/her, the more issues you see and experience.

FRUSTRATING!!!!
post #1767 of 4575
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Originally Posted by rudubb1n View Post

HA that guy got most of his kills with kill streaks. Im mostly a UAV hunter killer / Care package guy. I have had 50- 15 matches with a pistol before. Its fun. but that guy really isnt showcasing anything fantastic....
Ask people that have played against someone that is competent with a pistol. They are definitive right now. at least for fast paced game modes like KC.

And how did he get the streaks? With pistols, lol. Take away the killstreaks and he goes what, 40-3?
post #1768 of 4575
Why shouldn't pistols be good though? You have to burn the one point on them, just like a primary. None of them have the clip size or the range of any SMG. They're nasty up close, but beyond that, not so great.

Theyre def better than ever before. It's unusual compared to previous cods that they're even competitive with primaries at any range, but the pick 10 system means they have to be.
post #1769 of 4575
The pistols are the last thing I really care about them fixing right now. This game is so lag and spawn fuq'd right now it is amazing I keep playing it. And here's a question, if the host always has such an advantage why does it always host migrate when the worst player quits the match? I didn't think spawns could be worse than MW3 Parish but Blops 2 has pulled it off.
post #1770 of 4575
BD, use the KAP40 and tell me the range isn't good on it. Plus pistols shouldn't be good enough to be a competitive primary weapon....PERIOD.....how is that even debatable? Do we really want CoD to devolve into more of a game that de-emphasizes assault rifles and light machine guns? I think you and I just fundamentally disagree on what Call of Duty should be BD. You seem to be almost embracing this move towards an even more arcade kind of game, while people like myself want the game to try to retain as much of its "realism" as possible. That is why I complain so much about the speed knifers, the halo jumping shotgunners, the quickscopers, over-abundance of snipers, etc., because to me, when Treyarch just gives these guys a pass, it sucks more fun out of what I think made Call of Duty the series it is today. CoD needs to be about gun on gun combat FIRST, and that means focusing on the major weapon classes. Pistoleers with Lightweight need to be at a severe disadvantage, running knifers need to be so vulnerable nobody would even want to attempt it, but no, we have the Pick 10 system so you can turn someone with nothing more than a knife into an almost impossible to shoot killing monster and make it so they can get 20 kills in a match, OR, we can make people use a glorified SMG as a pistol, like the KAP 40 is, and make it so that they don't NEED anything else that shoots because it can be just as effective as the MSMC or the PDW or MP7.
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