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post #301 of 998
I've watched a few movies now set to 24fps output and haven't noticed anything like is described in the other threads. I am assuming that the 65" probably uses a different panel than the other sized sets, but I might be wrong.

The biggest complaint I can muster at this point is how reflective the screen is. I've gotten somewhat used to it, but my gf still complains that she wants to watch tv and not stare at herself.


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post #302 of 998
Have had a 42LM6200 for 3 weeks now. Am happy with it overall, but here are some specific observations/complaints/questions:

1) Light Bleed: There's some minor bleed around the edges that's most pronounced in a dark room. It's certainly noticeable but not a deal breaker since it's fairly common with edge lit LED TV's.

2) Smart Functionality: Looks pretty but it's disappointing. Am primarily using this functionality for Netflix and similar streaming apps. For the most part, the navigation is slow and inferior to other methods of accessing these apps on different devices. The Youtube app doesn't allow you to access entire playlists and feeds. You can see a few, but not all. The web browser is also sub-par. MLB.tv still isn't functioning. The Twitter app is awful.

3) Menus and Navigation: Cumbersome, particularly when you're using smart features. Want to enable the sleep timer while you're using Netflix? You can't and must return to the home screen in order to access things like the quick menu. Why in the heck is it called a quick menu if it isn't quick? If anyone knows how to enable the sleep timer easily, without having to exit what you're doing, please let me know.

4) Bundled Magic Remote: A neat idea but I prefer a balance between function and form. The magic remote has its uses but it makes simple tasks much more time-consuming and awkward than they should be. Will be buying a Logitech Harmony remote or the standard LG to use instead.

5) Magic Remote App: Again, a great idea but the execution leaves something to be desired. Like the bundled magic remote, it does not allow direct access to settings like I'd wish for. It should be a no-brainer to add more direct access to this app since there's no real limitation.
post #303 of 998
How's the glare on this? I'm looking for an LED tv for a room that gets a lot of sun in the morning and early afternoon. If not this one, can someone recommend a similar TV?
post #304 of 998
I really like this TV but I am starting to worry. I had a reboot tonight in the middle of playing a video game. Big white areas at corners of screen when picture is black. Missing Trumotion controls.

I want to keep it... Still have 25 days of Amazon return to figure it out.
post #305 of 998
my only main complaint about the 65LM6200 so far is also the reflectiveness of the screen. To combat it, I'm lighting the room from slightly behind and to the side of the tv, while turning off light from behind or near the couch. This minimizes the glare on certain scenes (esp. space/dark scenes) For normal TV viewing (esp. sitcoms and romcoms that tend to be 'well lit') the reflectiveness is pretty much non-existent.

if you have directv and an HD box (and if you have this tv, why wouldn't you have an HD box!?) you can program the DTV remote tv mode to work with the 65LW5600 (iirc) which works pretty much 100% (so far) and makes the magic remote only needed to turn on and off 'special' 3D mode. I say special, because when I switch between 3D and non-3D content, the TV automatically switches mode fairly competently. The only time I need to touch the 3D button is if I want to turn on 2D-to-3D conversion.
post #306 of 998
Anyone else having issues with smartshare? DLNA from a PC inparticular. In the user guide for smart share it says to use windows media player if running windows 7, I am doing that but the software seems extremly flaky (constant drop outs, tv not even seeing the pc etc.

One the other hand using smart share from my lg phone and throwing content over the wifi works great.

Keen to here of otheres experience and set ups with media streaming. Maybe I should just use the media link function with Plex? (I don't really like Plex though, seems rather fiddly)
post #307 of 998
still no solution to how to access service menu options after keying in the pass number 0413 for the various tool options?
post #308 of 998
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Originally Posted by gvc View Post

still no solution to how to access service menu options after keying in the pass number 0413 for the various tool options?

I have the 65LW6500 and have accessed the service menu. Trust me, if the 6200 is anything like my 6500....the SM is HIGHLY overrated. Ive tried most everything but the OTA DVR and its all pretty lame. The dimming option leaves a 4 or 5 inch wide gray colored bar on the left and right sides, luckily if you turn it off it goes away. The THX settings are WAY too dark IMOP...gives the set kind of a plasma look. I mean if I wanted the plasma look, I couldve saved a few hundred and bought a plasma. The 5.1 setting does work but I didnt need it with my surround setup as I run the Comcast feed into my receiver before it gets to the TV and get the same result. Don't drive yourself nuts looking for a solution because you'll only be disappointed if you do find one.

I will say this, Im loving this TV....outstanding picture quality and the excellent 3D is a nice bonus as well. And thats without changing anything in the Service Menu.
post #309 of 998
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Originally Posted by bhchan View Post

my only main complaint about the 65LM6200 so far is also the reflectiveness of the screen. To combat it, I'm lighting the room from slightly behind and to the side of the tv, while turning off light from behind or near the couch. This minimizes the glare on certain scenes (esp. space/dark scenes) For normal TV viewing (esp. sitcoms and romcoms that tend to be 'well lit') the reflectiveness is pretty much non-existent.
if you have directv and an HD box (and if you have this tv, why wouldn't you have an HD box!?) you can program the DTV remote tv mode to work with the 65LW5600 (iirc) which works pretty much 100% (so far) and makes the magic remote only needed to turn on and off 'special' 3D mode. I say special, because when I switch between 3D and non-3D content, the TV automatically switches mode fairly competently. The only time I need to touch the 3D button is if I want to turn on 2D-to-3D conversion.

I'm in the market for a 65" TV and I'm considering this unit or the Sony 65HX729 (Dell has this set for $2200). Can you tell me how are the viewing angles on LG? Do they drop off as soon as you are away from the center? Since I have not seen either of these models in person I'm just going by what others have said about either of these sets and make a final decision on one unit.
post #310 of 998
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Originally Posted by gvc View Post

still no solution to how to access service menu options after keying in the pass number 0413 for the various tool options?
I worked my way from 0000 to 1200, trying different codes here and there. Nothing that lets you enable settings outside of the 0413 code.
post #311 of 998
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I'm in the market for a 65" TV and I'm considering this unit or the Sony 65HX729 (Dell has this set for $2200). Can you tell me how are the viewing angles on LG? Do they drop off as soon as you are away from the center? Since I have not seen either of these models in person I'm just going by what others have said about either of these sets and make a final decision on one unit.

I'm sitting approx. 8feet from the 65....at that distance the picture quality falls off very quickly when moving from center. The sweet spot is directly center....moving even 2-3 feet to either side dramatically reduces picture quality. I'm guessing that at a further distance that might not be the case, though.
post #312 of 998
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Originally Posted by hibeta View Post

I'm sitting approx. 8feet from the 65....at that distance the picture quality falls off very quickly when moving from center. The sweet spot is directly center....moving even 2-3 feet to either side dramatically reduces picture quality. I'm guessing that at a further distance that might not be the case, though.


I have the 65 inch and think the viewing angle is quite good. I don't notice and quality drops even when viewing from a very side angle. Very happy with this TV!! Some light bleed and clouding, but welcome to LED. It certainly doesnt distract me whatsoever.

Definitely great value for money!!
post #313 of 998
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I'm in the market for a 65" TV and I'm considering this unit or the Sony 65HX729 (Dell has this set for $2200). Can you tell me how are the viewing angles on LG? Do they drop off as soon as you are away from the center? Since I have not seen either of these models in person I'm just going by what others have said about either of these sets and make a final decision on one unit.

Color fade is very distinct when moving from center to off center at a viewing range of 8 feet or so. Do yourself a favor and check it out in the stores before purchasing if you feel that will be a problem. Relying on the opinions of others on the 'net might not always be the best decision.
post #314 of 998
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Originally Posted by hibeta View Post

Color fade is very distinct when moving from center to off center at a viewing range of 8 feet or so. Do yourself a favor and check it out in the stores before purchasing if you feel that will be a problem. Relying on the opinions of others on the 'net might not always be the best decision.

Which retailer actually have these on display? Would Best Buy, Fry's, Sears have this model on display?
post #315 of 998
It's been a few months since I checked but HHGregg did have it on display.
post #316 of 998
Ordered my 65lm6200 through amazon won't be delivered till Monday. has anybody had theirs calibrated and if so have they posted their results? I am coming from a Samsung ln52A650 that's currently in a rebooting loop. I was on the fence with this and a 65vt50 but I figure I would try this first as I like the passive 3d better then active. How are the black levels compare to a 2006 Samsung LCD? I know the vt50 will own all Tvs in the black levels minus the infamous kuro and elites.
post #317 of 998
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I'm in the market for a 65" TV and I'm considering this unit or the Sony 65HX729 (Dell has this set for $2200). Can you tell me how are the viewing angles on LG? Do they drop off as soon as you are away from the center? Since I have not seen either of these models in person I'm just going by what others have said about either of these sets and make a final decision on one unit.

For what it's worth, I tend to watch from between 8' to 12' away from the TV, depending on whether I'm sitting near at the coffee table (when playing on the ps3 or xbox360, for instance) or standing behind my couch (when someone else is watching the tv and I'm biding my time, for instance). I've also watched the tv while walking around the room, mainly when my son's hogging the tv watching his Disney shows. Cel-shaded shows tend to be less forgiving in that you can easily see any color changes or drop-off on a fairly uniformly colored object. I did not notice any. I'm probably just not as picky as some, because I notice no problems at all once I'm watching content and enjoying whatever show I'm watching. I've been off center by as much as being practically parallel to the tv itself (our adjoining breakfast area is next to the tv), and while I wouldn't recommend watching it that way (you're looking at a 3 inch wide screen, basically) I didn't notice any dramatic drop in brightness and definitely no color-flipping like old LCD monitors used to do.
Edited by bhchan - 6/20/12 at 4:05pm
post #318 of 998
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Originally Posted by hibeta View Post

Color fade is very distinct when moving from center to off center at a viewing range of 8 feet or so. Do yourself a favor and check it out in the stores before purchasing if you feel that will be a problem. Relying on the opinions of others on the 'net might not always be the best decision.

I definitely agree with the 'see it for yourself in person' advice, because I had no problems with the tv when I'm walking around the room (and off-center vertically and horizontally) from various distances. Granted, I wear prescription glasses. smile.gif
post #319 of 998
I noticed from the pics that the 65" version does not have the same stand as the the screen sizes below it correct? I like that new design they have in the smaller sizes for this model and why didn't they use it for the 65" version?
post #320 of 998
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Originally Posted by bhchan View Post

I definitely agree with the 'see it for yourself in person' advice, because I had no problems with the tv when I'm walking around the room (and off-center vertically and horizontally) from various distances. Granted, I wear prescription glasses. smile.gif

I can't argue, of course, with what you think you are seeing, although I am somewhat surprised. I do admit to being picky and the level of color fade at off angle viewing is substantial, at least at closer distances. At broad enough angles there are even artifacts in the darker areas (shadows, dark clothing) as there are with other LCD's I've seen. Perhaps you are watching in a torch mode and maybe the dropoff is far less pronounced or maybe at a longer distance the same is true. I just don't know. I've had the set for several weeks and have tweaked the settings to produce what I perceive as an excellent picture...from dead center. I too sit at multiple positions when viewing the picture. Even the off angle is tolerable...for me....but there is a very clear visual distinction from dead center to even slightly off angle. The original poster needs to be aware that this at least may occur as it does in my case. YMMV and all that.
Edited by hibeta - 6/21/12 at 11:42am
post #321 of 998
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Originally Posted by hibeta View Post

I can't argue, of course, with what you think you are seeing, although I am somewhat surprised. YMMV and all that.

yup, totally agree. I checked again, maybe I'm just blind biggrin.gif Someone posted their settings and that's what I've been using for my DirecTV hdmi and PS3.
post #322 of 998
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I noticed from the pics that the 65" version does not have the same stand as the the screen sizes below it correct? I like that new design they have in the smaller sizes for this model and why didn't they use it for the 65" version?

the stand is indeed different from the one pictured. the stand that came with mine is a heavy, center post, glossy/piano black trapezoidal shape with a cut-out area in the front half... if that makes any sense.
post #323 of 998
Been working on calibrating the 47" model and I'm having a hard time getting the colors to SMPTE standards. There seems to be an issue with the settings that doesn't allow me to bring the color of red down and the greens are way off. I really hope they fix this with a firmware update because while most people won't notice the problem, it is bad. For now I'm just going to get the color the closest I can and I'll post my settings in a few days.
post #324 of 998
I´m a lg lm611s owner, i think quite similar to 620 about picture settings. This is the best settings for me:

Expert 1 mode

Backlight: 50
Contrast: 88
Brightness: 47
Sharpness H/V: 50
Color: 51
Tint: 0
Color Temp: warm

Advanced Control:
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Dynamic Color: Off
Clear White: Off
Gamma: 2.2
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Black Level: High
Real Cinema: On
Colour Space: Wide
post #325 of 998
Thanks for the settings.
post #326 of 998
Just installed Firmware Version 3.12.03 from Australian LG Website on my 42LM6200.
TruMotion is enabled and all seems OK.
When checking for updates via my TV (Via WiFi Dongle) no new updates are shown, but I found the firmware on the website...
Has anyone noticed that the EPG doesn't display current or upcoming programs for any channel except the current one? The only fix I can find is to manually cycle through 1 channel at a time... Very frustrating...
Also, does anyone have any recommended picture settings for this model? Thanks.
post #327 of 998
This review is pretty positive for the most part, but where it falls apart is in the inabaility to adjust factory settings to acceptable ranges especially for the blues and reds I believe.

http://revision3.com/hdnation/lg-lm6200

That being said, does anyone have settings they are really happy with that they can post? I have been fiddling, but seem to sacrifice one thing for another in my tweaks.

C
post #328 of 998
Can someone that has the 65" model please let me know the distance from the front of the stand to the front of the screen? I know the TV measures about 14" with that stand, but wanted to know how far back the screen actually sits from the from the front of the stand.
post #329 of 998
Here are my initial settings for the 47LM6200 using a SpectraCal C6 and CalMAN v4 software.

Expert 1:
Backlight (My setting is for a pitch black room, adjust to your needs) :35
Contrast: 88
Brightness: 52
H. Sharp: 0
V. Sharp: 0
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Dynamic Contrast: OFF
Super Resolution: OFF
Edge Enhancement: OFF
Gamma: 2.2
Noise Reduction: OFF
Mpeg NR: OFF
Black Level: Low
Color Temp: Warm
Color Gamut: Standard
Real Cinema: OFF

White Balance:
Method: 2pts
Pattern: Outer
Points: High
Everything else at 0 for now since I am having problems with the red levels being off too much when changing these settings

Color Management:
Green - Saturation: 10
Tint: 0
Luminance: 0

Blue - Saturation: 3
Tint: 0
Luminance: 0

Red - Saturation: -2
Tint: 3
Luminance: 0

These will probably change more in the future as I'll be constantly trying to get better results. Look for an update in August when I get back from vacation.
post #330 of 998
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

Can someone that has the 65" model please let me know the distance from the front of the stand to the front of the screen? I know the TV measures about 14" with that stand, but wanted to know how far back the screen actually sits from the from the front of the stand.

I measured 6.5 inches from very front of stand to screen.

C
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