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post #571 of 998
You should use over/under if possible.

Passive 3D displays half the vertical resolution and then interlace the frames. So with O/U you end up with frames 1920x540 interlaced together by the TV to produce 3D.
With SBS, you lose half the horizontal resolution also, so you end up with only 960x540 (just above SD resolution)

I've tried SBS myself, and at best, you lose sharpness.
post #572 of 998
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Originally Posted by Villagepeople View Post

Backlight: 100
Contrast: 95
Brightness: 68

Do you wear welding glasses while watching!!
post #573 of 998
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Originally Posted by Audionut11 View Post

Do you wear welding glasses while watching!!

Yea, that brightness level is insane. 68!? Seriously?
post #574 of 998
Backlight at maximum is not good for longevity. You're running your TV at maximum power output.

This is all besides the fact that I prefer 85cm/d which I've measured on my TV at,

Backlight 23
Contrast 82
Brightness 63

I also know that Backlight around 30 = approx 120cm/d.

Do you have the sun shining on your TV?

I do not need to try your settings because I know just by looking at them that I would never be able to watch tv with those settings.

Seriously, do you have the sun shining on your tv?
post #575 of 998
Hello all! My 42LM6200 arrives this afternoon. I plan on spending a lot of tonight getting it set up. I keep seeing information about local dimming only being available in the "service menu". Cannot understand this as I would think it'd be the default or at least easily accessible. But am I understanding it correctly?

My question is, how do you access the service menu? Is it a difficult process meant for techs? Or is it simply the name of a menu I'll have easy access to?
post #576 of 998
OK....got it set up last night. Service menu after looking through this thread more closely looks like it may be beyond me. I do have a couple of questions if you wouldn't mind as you have time:

1. Trumotion - Turned it on and DEFINITELY saw soap-opera effect. I guess I am still confused between this feature and the 120hz refresh rate. Is the 120hz refresh rate now native with the firmware updates? Anyone know? If trumotion = 120hz then I suppose I simply don't like it.

2. Is this horrible sound quality pretty standard with these ultra thin tvs? Sometimes I just flip it on without turning on the audio system but with this TV I cannot stand it....so tinny and absolutely no bass to speak of. Is that the norm these days?
post #577 of 998
Hi can someone help me please?

I bought the 32LM6200 from Amazon. I got this tv to mainly use as a PC monitor but I have a problem:

  • HDMI input = nice crisp text (1:1 Pixel mapping), BUT there is input lag (very slight but very noticeable in FPS games when pressing the mouse button and hearing/seeing the gun shoot about 2/3 of a second later), yes, and I'm talking about in "Game mode" with all features turned off.
  • RGB/PC input = incorrect pixel mapping (only slight blurring but it is distracting), even after the auto screen setup from the LG picture settings, BUT there is no input lag at all! smile.gif
  • Both inputs are in the native resolution 1920 x 1080p 60Hz

Ok so i know there is probably no solution for the HDMI input with the input lag as all tv's are probably like that, but can someone tell me (if it's possible) how to get 1:1 pixel mapping with the RGB/PC input. I've tried doing the auto setup over and over again but it yields the same results; the pixel mapping is off just a tad bit . I really love the color and contrast this display outputs. I have the tv connected to an NVIDIA GTX 570 if that helps, and I have also tried the connection from my laptop's VGA output ..the laptop also has a NVIDIA card (9650m GT).


Thank you for reading.

-Jim
post #578 of 998
The picture Quality seems a little pixelated in some colors for like red, blue, green. For example watching the big bang theory when the color of a shirt that is red, green, or blue I can see the pixel of the shirt like it is not sharp enough. Is there a way to fix that?This is for the 55lm6200 model.
post #579 of 998
Had in mind entering the service mode (menu hidden) from the tv, and review any option that would reverse the input and output audio convert, I have the hope that this might be possible.
Currently achieves access from your computer to sync menu of TV with the Python programming language, but I can only handle basic options and still can not access the hidden menu since the code change from previous models of lg tv.
post #580 of 998
Hi all
I just bought an lm6200 and the update had trumotion. My problem is that weather it's on or off I can never get the soap opera effect. I don't see any difference. Also when I choose game trumotion is grayed out.Im new to Lg and HDTVs But I am one of the few that likes the soap opera affect but can't see it no matter what I do in settings.
Can someone help me?
Thanks
Edited by axo409 - 9/9/12 at 7:58am
post #581 of 998
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Originally Posted by Audionut11 View Post

Do you wear welding glasses while watching!!
lol
post #582 of 998
So getting my 65LM6200 delivered this afternoon. Do I need to udpate right away to latest firmware since I've been reading of people updating to latest and losing the Trumotion option? Will it give me an option if I don't want to update right away or once I setup the wifi settings it will automatically update itself.

Can someone comment on this?
post #583 of 998
I just got this TV today. Pretty cool! I'm clueless when it comes to the proper adjustments. Anyone have any advice?
post #584 of 998
How can I output the audio from a mkv file on a usb drive or a while playing a Youtube video thorough my 5.1 sound system using my audio receiver? Right now I have 1 HDMI hooked to the TV from the HDMI out from audio receiver which which has HDMI ins from my cable dvr as well as blu ray player.
post #585 of 998
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

So getting my 65LM6200 delivered this afternoon. Do I need to udpate right away to latest firmware since I've been reading of people updating to latest and losing the Trumotion option? Will it give me an option if I don't want to update right away or once I setup the wifi settings it will automatically update itself.
Can someone comment on this?


it will give you a message that an update is available and ask if you want to download it. there is also an option in the settings that allow you to turn off all updates so you wont even get notification of an available update if thats what you want.
post #586 of 998
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Originally Posted by Eddieranger View Post

I just got this TV today. Pretty cool! I'm clueless when it comes to the proper adjustments. Anyone have any advice?

please take time to read entire thread. you can also read threads of other LG models in that a lot of the info applies across the board to all models
post #587 of 998
Got the 55" and love it. Thanks to all for the settings advice. Can't seem to use the TM without SoE with most if not all HD cable channels through TiVo but most of my preferred channels are not too compressed so they're OK.

Anyway, just wanted to let people know that Tiger Direct has been running sweet but very short term deals on these and similar LG LEDs. I got the 55" 6200 for $799 but it only lasted for a hour or 2. This was after I just missed a 55" 6500 for $899 a few days before. Haven't seen an Lg deal for a few days but keep checking TECHBARGAINS or similar.
post #588 of 998
I'm about to purchase this set but in reading all the review I can find, I just want to get some other's experience on the following part of this review:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-65LM6200-65-Inch-LED-LCD-Glasses/product-reviews/B007075OFW/

Cons:
1. Very laggy when using the remote before the TV decides to obey. This includes pausing a video, selecting a movie (Netflix), or other content
2. Can't get Amazon videos, which is a service we regularly use, and can't get Pandora
3. Netflix videos regularly hang. Probably related to number 4
4. It regularly loses the wireless connection and we have to reconnect
5. When you turn the TV off, it doesn't "save state", remembering what you were watching before.
6. The remote is not well designed in terms of the available buttons and their locations. For example, the power on/off is near the position of the regular selector, making it relatively easy to power off instead of select.


Is there a significant lag time to navigating this TV or is this just a picky user?
post #589 of 998
I recently got the 65" model and when using the YouTube app it seems to be buffering constantly when trying to play a HD video. Is this an issue that is common to this model and is it something that a updated firmware might possibly fix?
post #590 of 998
I saw this TV at BB and PQ looked good for a reasonably priced TV. Most TVs in 2012 suck in all regards with the exception of the Sony HX850 and maybe the Vizio M3D550KD. I've had the Vizio and I must say the PQ was very good. Not as good as the Sony but very similar. (Black Level better on Sony)
I've taken TVs back without hesitation due to flashlighting, poor colors, backlight-bleed, and dirty screen effect. (All in last 4 mos.) I currently have the Samsung EH6000 and I'm not to thrilled about keeping it any longer. I have 10 days left on my 30 day return at BB and I'm wondering if I should take a stab at this LG. I'd like to know a few things about this set before I pull the trigger...

1. Will the Tru-Motion Settings be on the 55" if I buy it new next week?
2. How bad, if any, is the flashligting?
3. Are the colors accurate or is there any kind of a red, blue-push or tinge?
4. Any backlight-bleed?
5. How are the blacks?
6. Is there good shadow-detail or are the blacks crushed?

Thank you in advance.
post #591 of 998
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

1. Will the Tru-Motion Settings be on the 55" if I buy it new next week?
2. How bad, if any, is the flashligting?
3. Are the colors accurate or is there any kind of a red, blue-push or tinge?
4. Any backlight-bleed?
5. How are the blacks?
6. Is there good shadow-detail or are the blacks crushed?
Thank you in advance.

1. Tru-Motion came with a firmware update. So that might be required. Depends when the unit was produced I suppose. I read that April or May models already had the firmware with it enabled.
2/4. I'm not 100% certain on the difference between flashlighting and blacklight-bleed. I can all but remove "bright-spots" (corners/edges )on the screen by loosening the screws on the rear cover. The only negative effect I found was a rattling of the rear cover with sufficient volume levels. Not a problem with external audio. <-That's blacklight bleed correct? I don't notice any "flashing" of luminance levels on my set.
3. Here is a Chromapure greyscale report on my display (also a 55" (march production code)) at default settings. Very blue. And here is a ChromePure color gamut report at default settings but with basic greyscale calibration via gain/cut settings in the service menu. I don't have post-calibration reports yet as I'm still tinkering, but I can get my set to almost perfect greyscale (+/- 10k) and the gamut also very close to BT.709.
5. Measured at 0.45 cd/m2 on my set. black signal+dark environment = you can see faint glow over the entire screen (ie: it's not pitch black obviously). Unless it's a completely black scene, personally I don't notice it. And of course, if you have a small amount of ambient light, the issue disappears. Also I've found that when watching 3D, due to the glasses reducing light entering the eyes, black looks black.
6. Personally I think there is excellent shadow detail.
Edited by Audionut11 - 9/14/12 at 5:52pm
post #592 of 998
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Originally Posted by Audionut11 View Post

1. Tru-Motion came with a firmware update. So that might be required. Depends when the unit was produced I suppose. I read that April or May models already had the firmware with it enabled.
2/4. I'm not 100% certain on the difference between flashlighting and blacklight-bleed. I can all but remove "bright-spots" (corners/edges )on the screen by loosening the screws on the rear cover. The only negative effect I found was a rattling of the rear cover with sufficient volume levels. Not a problem with external audio. <-That's blacklight bleed correct? I don't notice any "flashing" of luminance levels on my set.
3. Here is a Chromapure greyscale report on my display (also a 55" (march production code)) at default settings. Very blue. And here is a ChromePure color gamut report at default settings but with basic greyscale calibration via gain/cut settings in the service menu. I don't have post-calibration reports yet as I'm still tinkering, but I can get my set to almost perfect greyscale (+/- 10k) and the gamut also very close to BT.709.
5. Measured at 0.45 cd/m2 on my set. black signal+dark environment = you can see faint glow over the entire screen (ie: it's not pitch black obviously). Unless it's a completely black scene, personally I don't notice it. And of course, if you have a small amount of ambient light, the issue disappears. Also I've found that when watching 3D, due to the glasses reducing light entering the eyes, black looks black.
6. Personally I think there is excellent shadow detail.

Thanks for all the info.
Flashlighting is from the corners and looks like the name suggests, a flashlight beaming light out from the corners to the middle.
Backlight-bleed is random light that can be found anywhere on the screen. Sometimes found as a splotchy mass of light along the edges of the bezel.
post #593 of 998
Quote:
Hi can someone help me please?

I bought the 32LM6200 from Amazon. I got this tv to mainly use as a PC monitor but I have a problem:

•HDMI input = nice crisp text (1:1 Pixel mapping), BUT there is input lag (very slight but very noticeable in FPS games when pressing the mouse button and hearing/seeing the gun shoot about 2/3 of a second later), yes, and I'm talking about in "Game mode" with all features turned off.

•RGB/PC input = incorrect pixel mapping (only slight blurring but it is distracting), even after the auto screen setup from the LG picture settings, BUT there is no input lag at all!

•Both inputs are in the native resolution 1920 x 1080p 60Hz

Ok so i know there is probably no solution for the HDMI input with the input lag as all tv's are probably like that, but can someone tell me (if it's possible) how to get 1:1 pixel mapping with the RGB/PC input. I've tried doing the auto setup over and over again but it yields the same results; the pixel mapping is off just a tad bit . I really love the color and contrast this display outputs. I have the tv connected to an NVIDIA GTX 570 if that helps, and I have also tried the connection from my laptop's VGA output ..the laptop also has a NVIDIA card (9650m GT).


Thank you for reading.

-Jim

You shouldn't have lag, I don't on HDMI, but I do have weird blurring and a lot of Jutter. This thing is going back
Edited by axo409 - 9/15/12 at 10:58am
post #594 of 998
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Originally Posted by axo409 View Post

You shouldn't have lag, I don't but I do have weird blurring and a lot of Jutter. This thing is going back

Sometimes the tv lags and or stutters. I don't know if it is the channel but it only happens on a few channels I encounter. Sometime it goes to normal, i don't know but Im guessing is how the tv is. maybe a new firmware will fix it?
post #595 of 998
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Originally Posted by JayFx2 View Post

Sometimes the tv lags and or stutters. I don't know if it is the channel but it only happens on a few channels I encounter. Sometime it goes to normal, i don't know but Im guessing is how the tv is. maybe a new firmware will fix it?


Mine shutters and blurs on any channel and on dvds. our TV's have to be bad. I think we all have the same firmware but only a few have our problem.

I cant get true motion to work at all. no matter if it's on or off or on user it does nothing. I love this TV but but I cant keep it with blur and jaggies
post #596 of 998
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Originally Posted by Desilva212 View Post

I'm about to purchase this set but in reading all the review I can find, I just want to get some other's experience on the following part of this review:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-65LM6200-65-Inch-LED-LCD-Glasses/product-reviews/B007075OFW/
Cons:
1. Very laggy when using the remote before the TV decides to obey. This includes pausing a video, selecting a movie (Netflix), or other content
2. Can't get Amazon videos, which is a service we regularly use, and can't get Pandora
3. Netflix videos regularly hang. Probably related to number 4
4. It regularly loses the wireless connection and we have to reconnect
5. When you turn the TV off, it doesn't "save state", remembering what you were watching before.
6. The remote is not well designed in terms of the available buttons and their locations. For example, the power on/off is near the position of the regular selector, making it relatively easy to power off instead of select.

Is there a significant lag time to navigating this TV or is this just a picky user?

Does your computers/phones lose wifi? if not your tv wifi card is bad. When you say remote lag do you mean it takes a few sec to show up on screen? Mine does that too.
Edited by axo409 - 9/15/12 at 12:36pm
post #597 of 998
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Originally Posted by Desilva212 View Post

I'm about to purchase this set but in reading all the review I can find, I just want to get some other's experience on the following part of this review:

http://www.amazon.com/LG-65LM6200-65-Inch-LED-LCD-Glasses/product-reviews/B007075OFW/
Cons:
1. Very laggy when using the remote before the TV decides to obey. This includes pausing a video, selecting a movie (Netflix), or other content
2. Can't get Amazon videos, which is a service we regularly use, and can't get Pandora
3. Netflix videos regularly hang. Probably related to number 4
4. It regularly loses the wireless connection and we have to reconnect
5. When you turn the TV off, it doesn't "save state", remembering what you were watching before.
6. The remote is not well designed in terms of the available buttons and their locations. For example, the power on/off is near the position of the regular selector, making it relatively easy to power off instead of select.

Is there a significant lag time to navigating this TV or is this just a picky user?

So several of you have mentioned that the lag referenced in this review should not be a concern, but are you referring to Netflix as well? We Netflix it up for the kids all the time and this is a very important feature for me.

Thanks!
post #598 of 998
I know this isn't the correct thread but does anyone have any info on the LG LS4600? None on AVS and not much on the net. $1099 at BB.
post #599 of 998
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Originally Posted by hibeta View Post

No jaggies, no blurs, solid streaming, tru motion works great. So far the 65lm6200 has met my expectations nicely.

Trade you smile.gif
post #600 of 998
It took a while to get the picture dialed in...but has been worth the effort.
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