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post #601 of 928
9/15/12 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

I know this isn't the correct thread but does anyone have any info on the LG LS4600? None on AVS and not much on the net. $1099 at BB.


BB = Best buy? Best buy blows. They closed several stores across the US
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post #602 of 928
9/15/12 at 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by axo409 View Post

BB = Best buy? Best buy blows. They closed several stores across the US

Yes, BB=Best Buy.
Thanks for the info. I did not know they blew.
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post #603 of 928
9/16/12 at 1:01am
So is everyone experiencing the constant buffering when trying to play HD videos from Youtube? My router is situated upstairs and the TV (65LM6200) is downstairs. The WiFi connection is there so I'm losing that, but whenever I'm loading a HD video from YT it will play for a few seconds then stop/buffer then play for a few more and again buffer again...keeps doing this on and off. Is it due to the signal strength of the wifi since I'm so far away from the router or something wrong with the YT app, or wifi card in the TV?
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post #604 of 928
9/16/12 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

So is everyone experiencing the constant buffering when trying to play HD videos from Youtube? My router is situated upstairs and the TV (65LM6200) is downstairs. The WiFi connection is there so I'm losing that, but whenever I'm loading a HD video from YT it will play for a few seconds then stop/buffer then play for a few more and again buffer again...keeps doing this on and off. Is it due to the signal strength of the wifi since I'm so far away from the router or something wrong with the YT app, or wifi card in the TV?

I notice no difference between my LM6200 and any of my home computers in streaming from YouTube...sometimes really good; other times slow and constantly buffering. I think it's either Youtube or my ISP. I usually use my ps3 or bluray player to stream from Amazon and have no problems whatsoever.
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post #605 of 928
9/17/12 at 11:38am
HI i have the same problem TVs can be used for PC GAMING i dont know 1 tv that dont has INPUT LAGG i use and LG E2260 as primary screen for my pc but when i play 3d games i use my 32lm6200 tv and i use this benchmark to detect the lagg http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/index.php the diference is about 30MS that is the best improve that i can make this is my configuration


1st put input then select the HDMI u use for the PC and push the red key to change divice name and then select GAME

2nd and then settings key and select picture and choose game that is the only way to quit input lagg of the tv in HDMI
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post #606 of 928
9/17/12 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

Yes, BB=Best Buy.
Thanks for the info. I did not know they blew.

Hahaha well their ok as long as you dont get "sold" on extra crap.
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post #607 of 928
9/17/12 at 1:23pm
ok...if you go into the user guide/picture,sound setting it says "If the video signal is 60hz, TruMotion may not work"
How do I know if the signal is 60hz??

HELP
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post #608 of 928
9/17/12 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by axo409 View Post

Hahaha well their ok as long as you dont get "sold" on extra crap.

Everyone knows they suck, or "blow" as you put it. I mainly get movies there for they price-match Amazon.
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post #609 of 928
9/17/12 at 2:50pm
Is there anyone out there with an extensive understanding of the different settings who uses the dual play feature for video games with this model? I get a bit of ghosting with my currents settings and if anyone knows which specific settings I should tinker with to eliminate this it would be much appreciated.
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post #610 of 928
9/19/12 at 12:30pm
Re: bestbuy

Sweet...I think I'll start doing that :-)

This thing is not quoting?
Edited by axo409 - 9/19/12 at 12:37pm
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post #611 of 928
9/19/12 at 4:36pm
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Originally Posted by BAYMAN82 View Post

Is there anyone out there with an extensive understanding of the different settings who uses the dual play feature for video games with this model? I get a bit of ghosting with my currents settings and if anyone knows which specific settings I should tinker with to eliminate this it would be much appreciated.
I have the 65" and it does that, I'm not sure you can avoid it. That paired with the distorted aspect ratio kind of ruin the dual play feature for me.
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post #612 of 928
9/19/12 at 8:03pm
Hey everyone, I recently bought the 42LM6200 and am having issues. No matter what settings I change, trumotion, eye care, noise reduction, I'm getting a stuttering picture. Strangely, sports are fine. I can watch ESPN and live sports and they look awesome, but if I'm watching a show and they pan a shot it's painful. (Just checked the news looks fine too) It seems to be movies and TV shows where this is an issue (something like House Hunters looks terrible). I'm coming from a 26" so I know more things will be obvious but it's tough to watch things like this. When I turn off all the aforementioned effects it's almost like I can see the frames per second. I'm seeing something like if the pan once a second or so it stutters and is incredibly distracting. I've tried as much as I can, I really don't want to send this back to Amazon but unless I can find a fix, this is kinda a deal breaker. I've tried a bunch to dial in the picture, which I know I'll be able to do, but want to get this issue out of the way before I spend too much time on that. Also I've put the TV on Just Scan.

Thanks for any help!
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post #613 of 928
9/19/12 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by mikell128 View Post

Hey everyone, I recently bought the 42LM6200 and am having issues. No matter what settings I change, trumotion, eye care, noise reduction, I'm getting a stuttering picture. Strangely, sports are fine. I can watch ESPN and live sports and they look awesome, but if I'm watching a show and they pan a shot it's painful. (Just checked the news looks fine too) It seems to be movies and TV shows where this is an issue (something like House Hunters looks terrible). I'm coming from a 26" so I know more things will be obvious but it's tough to watch things like this. When I turn off all the aforementioned effects it's almost like I can see the frames per second. I'm seeing something like if the pan once a second or so it stutters and is incredibly distracting. I've tried as much as I can, I really don't want to send this back to Amazon but unless I can find a fix, this is kinda a deal breaker. I've tried a bunch to dial in the picture, which I know I'll be able to do, but want to get this issue out of the way before I spend too much time on that. Also I've put the TV on Just Scan.
Thanks for any help!

I think it might just be the set. I was looking to pull the trigger on this set last week until I read about the juddering issues. I could be wrong but I don't think there's a fix for it.
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post #614 of 928
9/19/12 at 9:14pm
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Originally Posted by mikell128 View Post

Hey everyone, I recently bought the 42LM6200 and am having issues. No matter what settings I change, trumotion, eye care, noise reduction, I'm getting a stuttering picture. Strangely, sports are fine. I can watch ESPN and live sports and they look awesome, but if I'm watching a show and they pan a shot it's painful. (Just checked the news looks fine too) It seems to be movies and TV shows where this is an issue (something like House Hunters looks terrible). I'm coming from a 26" so I know more things will be obvious but it's tough to watch things like this. When I turn off all the aforementioned effects it's almost like I can see the frames per second. I'm seeing something like if the pan once a second or so it stutters and is incredibly distracting. I've tried as much as I can, I really don't want to send this back to Amazon but unless I can find a fix, this is kinda a deal breaker. I've tried a bunch to dial in the picture, which I know I'll be able to do, but want to get this issue out of the way before I spend too much time on that. Also I've put the TV on Just Scan.
Thanks for any help!

How are you watching the movies and tv shows, is it the same as sports and news? Or are you playing them from a different input or usb stick?

You should really notice the truemotion effect. If you can't, I would assume you have a problem with your set.

The only time I notice problem with pans, is with 24fps content with truemotion disabled. This is to be expected as 24fps isn't fast enough to capture fast motion smooth enough. Having truemotion enabled in user mode at a setting of 2 fixes all frame rate related problems for me. The default truemotion settings produced far to many motion artifacts.
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post #615 of 928
9/20/12 at 6:28am
I've played movies off a USB stick and they looked fine, but I've only tried HD movies that way so maybe later tonight I can try some other things. I'm watching TV on twc. If I turn on trumotion and real cinema then I get the SOE which smooths things in regards to how things move in a shot but it still every few seconds like stutters as if the video is trying to slow down or something. It's difficult to explain. My girlfriend doesn't notice anything but it's definitely there on certain shots. It's frustrating because it's fine for some things and not for others.

I'm going to spend a few more days with it and see if it's still doing this then I might call LG/amazon and see what my options are. I would exchange the set but I'm just nervous that another set would be the same way making me have to then return that. Maybe if I can find a local store that has one I can check it out there.

My biggest concern for a TV is sports, which this has been fine for, but obviously I want the tv to work right overall.
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post #616 of 928
9/20/12 at 7:35am
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Originally Posted by mikell128 View Post

I've played movies off a USB stick and they looked fine, but I've only tried HD movies that way so maybe later tonight I can try some other things. I'm watching TV on twc.

So movies on usb is fine. Sports and news from twc (no idea what that is btw) are fine, but I'm guessing movies and some tv shows when played via the twc have the problem. Sounds like a problem with whatever the twc is to me.
I'm guessing it's some sort of set top box? Are you using hdmi? Can you check what signal it is outputting to the tv.

I have real cinema turned off, and as mentioned above, truemotion at user setting 2. Works like a charm for me. Smooth motion without any SOE effect.
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post #617 of 928
9/20/12 at 8:57am
My bad I should've been more clear, it's Time Warner Cable. Yeah I'm using HDMI and the box outputs 720p when I set it to auto, I can force it to 1080i but I haven't seen a difference. I'll try it on 2 and real cinema off when I get home. Could it be the HDMI cable itself? Otherwise it seems pretty likely it could be time warner as I do have issues with my box sometimes. I might go buy a digital antenna just to test some OTA channels and see if it's the same.
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post #618 of 928
9/20/12 at 9:59am
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My bad I should've been more clear, it's Time Warner Cable. Yeah I'm using HDMI and the box outputs 720p when I set it to auto, I can force it to 1080i but I haven't seen a difference. I'll try it on 2 and real cinema off when I get home. Could it be the HDMI cable itself? Otherwise it seems pretty likely it could be time warner as I do have issues with my box sometimes. I might go buy a digital antenna just to test some OTA channels and see if it's the same.

I would set your box to 1080i only. It's not going to fix your juddering issue but will not take forever switching definitions when changing channels. Try a different HDMI Cable and see if that helps but I doubt it's the cable. What TWC box do you have, Scientific A, Samsung, Cisco...DVR? I had similar issues with mine a few years ago with channels not coming in or pixelated all the time. I thought it was the box but after changing it out numerous times and complaing to TW they eventually checked my line coming in and found that was losing pockets of data. They fixed it and i've never had any issues regarding TWC Service.
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post #619 of 928
9/20/12 at 2:02pm
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Originally Posted by mikell128 View Post

I can force it to 1080i but I haven't seen a difference.

Is that with picture quality or the juddering?

I agree with Justin, force it to 1080i and I doubt it's the hdmi cable.

If movies work fine via USB, and you don't have problems with FTA when you get the antenna, then that clearly leaves the blame with TWC.
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post #620 of 928
9/21/12 at 9:15am
This might be a stupid question but I have the LG65LM6200 and I have tried dinking around with some of the settings a lot of you have thrown on here to get an awesome picture and I noticed on my set real cinema is greyed out. Is this option only available when watching a dvd?
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post #621 of 928
9/21/12 at 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by horhey1622 View Post

...I noticed on my set real cinema is greyed out. Is this option only available when watching a dvd?
You have to be feeding it a 24hz source.
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post #622 of 928
9/22/12 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by mikell128 View Post

Hey everyone, I recently bought the 42LM6200 and am having issues. No matter what settings I change, trumotion, eye care, noise reduction, I'm getting a stuttering picture. Strangely, sports are fine. I can watch ESPN and live sports and they look awesome, but if I'm watching a show and they pan a shot it's painful. (Just checked the news looks fine too) It seems to be movies and TV shows where this is an issue (something like House Hunters looks terrible). I'm coming from a 26" so I know more things will be obvious but it's tough to watch things like this. When I turn off all the aforementioned effects it's almost like I can see the frames per second. I'm seeing something like if the pan once a second or so it stutters and is incredibly distracting. I've tried as much as I can, I really don't want to send this back to Amazon but unless I can find a fix, this is kinda a deal breaker. I've tried a bunch to dial in the picture, which I know I'll be able to do, but want to get this issue out of the way before I spend too much time on that. Also I've put the TV on Just Scan.
Thanks for any help!

I have the same problem as you and it's a deal breaker for me as well. even on regular DVD'S the panning is terrible. I don't think trumotion is even working. the TV is awesome but the jitter and paning I cant take. I'm wondering if the update didn't take completely I wish I could force another update. I really want to keep it but if there's no fix its got to go back.
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post #623 of 928
9/22/12 at 11:16am
Speaking of panning and Real Cinema, Can anyone comment on how Real Cinema looks for them on a 2D source? I have the 65LM6200 and its awful, if anything the picture produces more judder. Oddly however, Real Cinema engaged on a 3D Blu-Ray looks brilliant. It's as if it only works when the set is in 3D mode.
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post #624 of 928
9/23/12 at 4:30pm
HI, did you ever get any resolution to the "OUT OF MEMORY" issue on your LG Smart TV? I am having the same issu when wqtching videos on certain television web sites and its very random. Also once I get therror, I get that message on pretty much any web site, even while simply checking email or the weather. TV is only 3 weeks old and LG wasnt able to help out so far, they have no idea whta I ma tlaking about!!
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post #625 of 928
9/23/12 at 4:53pm
OK update. I tried it on different video sources and I still see it. It's not a ton of judder but it's noticeable and really annoying while trying to watch things. I watched a 1080p movie off a flash drive and it still did it. I played Madden on it and it was stuttering. It wasn't nearly as bad on the 1080p movie but it was noticeable. With any amount of trumotion on there's some pixelation on anything fast moving. With trumotion off the picture just looks like its stuttering at times. I've already decided I'm going to return this but I don't know if I should exchange it for a different one of the same model or go for the Panasonic ET5. I really like this TV and want to be OK with the picture but it's really too much of a deal breaker for me. Do you think it's possible I just got a bad unit? Also with trumotion I don't get an extreme SOE effect even when it's on 10. It's noticeable but not like I've seen on other units. Not that I like the effect but would that be indicative that there's an issue too?
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post #626 of 928
9/23/12 at 4:54pm
I can't figure this out, I tried Tron: Legacy in 1080p and it was perfect. When I tried HD versions of up and Lord of the Rings it was really noticeable as to the stuttering. Then I was watching the NFL and it looked fine, then a standard def version of the hangover that looked terrible. It seems like its hit or miss as to what looks fine/not so fine...
Edited by mikell128 - 9/23/12 at 7:26pm
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post #627 of 928
9/23/12 at 8:36pm
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Originally Posted by mikell128 View Post

I can't figure this out, I tried Tron: Legacy in 1080p and it was perfect. When I tried HD versions of up and Lord of the Rings it was really noticeable as to the stuttering. Then I was watching the NFL and it looked fine, then a standard def version of the hangover that looked terrible. It seems like its hit or miss as to what looks fine/not so fine...

You may have already mentioned it in previous posts but do you have trumotion off or on when it's juddering? Is it on the lowest or highest form of trumotion (clear, standard, or smooth)? I'm not sure on LG sets but Samsung has a custom setting for Auto Motion Plus/Tru-Motion/Refresh-Rate that lets you take blur down to 0 and judder to 10. I have the Samsung D630 that had slight juddering issues and after putting the judder on 10 it stopped almost completely and still looks good on film-based content as well as tv-shows and sports.
If you return for the same set you're probably just wasting your time as it is surely not just limited to your set but widespread on the 6200. I'm not sure if they have any on display but you might want to check out Best Buy and see what the 6200 looks like in the store. Sorry 'bout your troubles. This is the absolute worst year for tvs. They all have some glitches.
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post #628 of 928
9/24/12 at 10:50am
I recently got the 65LM6200 and like it alot. I used some of the picture settings from this thread to dial in a decent looking pic.

I did have one question for others that have this particular model. Whenever I see commercials with white or grey backgrounds I notice that the picture dims a bit. I don't notice it when I'm watching any programs on TV, but I do notice it during super white backgrounds. Is this normal for this type of sets? I have the energy savings feature off.
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post #629 of 928
9/24/12 at 11:13am
I had mine replaced with a new one but still i'm not satisfied, artifacts or stuttering of images are really noticeable when watching HD movies with fast moving scenes, it's really annoying, at first LG said it's the 1st time they encountered it. I called them again yesterday to check if there's a setting that can fix this.

It really pisses me off when I see this in their website.

LESS BLUR. MORE ACTION.
TruMotion 120Hz technology lets you see sports, video games and high-speed action with virtually no motion blur. Now your TV can keep up with your fast-moving entertainment.

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-42LM6200-led-tv
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post #630 of 928
9/24/12 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

I recently got the 65LM6200 and like it alot. I used some of the picture settings from this thread to dial in a decent looking pic.
I did have one question for others that have this particular model. Whenever I see commercials with white or grey backgrounds I notice that the picture dims a bit. I don't notice it when I'm watching any programs on TV, but I do notice it during super white backgrounds. Is this normal for this type of sets? I have the energy savings feature off.
I have the 65" and can't say I've ever noticed anything like that. Did you enable local dimming via the service menu? I have the option, but have mine turned off.
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