Onkyo New AVR's TX-NR818,717,616 official Discussion [No Price Talk]Thread - Page 17

Can you set distances for each sub individually?

no because it's basically an integrated y connector at the back of the Onkyo, meaning in the speaker configuration menu it will only provide you with one sub to adjust. I can see how one can get sub level to match via an SPL meter, however the distance will be hard to do as it will be a global setting for both subs.

I am just wondering of this will make a real sound difference. I have two Velo DEQ subs.

If you have two subs it will.

875 owner here. Looking to possibly upgrade for better video processing, XT32, etc. I don't want to downgrade on the amps though. What model should I be looking at? yet be released 1011 or above?

I have a question on speaker positions. I currently have a 5.1 setup. I was thinking of also setting up a front height system. In the 818 manual, they show the surrounds as being to the sides of you, and then optionally behind you. They don't show it using a setup where the speakers are behind mainly (page 41 of the manual). My surround speakers are in the back corners of the room, behind and to each side of me. Does that matter?

I'm thinking when I set it up, I'd just say those are my surrounds, not back surrounds, as in the 7.1FH picture on page 41, even though my speakers would just be further back than what they show?

I'll be interested to read Jeorod's review especially as it pertains to the sub issue.

Never mind the missing audyssey sub Eq, if I read the manual correctly the real issue is with crossover settings, you can only select 40,80,100,120,150 and 200hz for speakers, Who in their right mind would buy this receiver and use a 200 hz sub/fronts crossover, its ridicilous, at least 60hz should have been included.

80hz setting is too high to configure capable towers(sorry I dont care what thx thinks about this), on the other hand 40 is way too low.

Even if each sub has it's own internal EQ???

How high should you turn up your sub amplifier and crossover before running 32XT?

I'm not to sure how the 818 will be but for the 3009 it asks you to calibrate each sub to 75db with the audyssey mic before starting auto setup. As for XO on your sub you should either disable it or if you can't disable it set to the highest possible and let the receiver handle XO.

That covers crossover, but what about setting the overall sub level with the built in sub amp, do you set it to the mid-point or do you crank it to "11" (yes, my sub has an 11)?

I have no idea about that one. The good thing about Subeq HT is that it ping 2 subs individually to set the levels, distance and delays and then adds them back together to eq them. If your subs already have eq where you can eq them individually I guess missing that step wouldn't hurt. You may have to ask in the Audyssey or subwoofer forum to find out because I really don't know much about subs that come with EQ as I have never used one.

You use the volume/gain control on your sub's amp to adjust the onscreen Audyssey display until your sub is measuring in the 75 decibels range.

Yes, something to think about for me too...I have mains that are very strong down to 40Hz.

I believe the general rule of thumb is to use your subs EQ first and then run XT32.

Ah, makes sense. I had not been considering Audyssey in my next AVR because I read a review of the Denon 4311 last year and they really bagged on it as being cumbersome and actually making the setup sound worse than if they simply disabled it.

Seems like there are a lot of believers here at AVS though.

The crossover settings are 40 to 80 to 100, 120 etc. This means the options are 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, 120, 150, and 200. Same as the NR809...

I have found when running Audyssey XT and XT32 to set my subs gain at the half way point (12 o'clock).


This is an excellent feature with XT32. With XT on the Onkyos I owned you would have to do at least a three position calibration to see if the gain was too high or too low.


This is true as I have an Anti-Mode 8033C which I use to calibrate my sub first then I ran XT32. I have the 8033C so I have sub EQ when using my Parasound 2100 preamp (with HT Bypass).


Where did you read that review of the 4311? I was never really impressed with Audyssey XT with my Onkyo 886 for 2CH music but used it sometimes for MCH music. I'm very impressed with XT32 even with 2CH music. I did a few comparisons today between the 4311 in stereo mode with XT32 and my 2100. The SQ was very close and I found I actually preferred the 4311. With my 886 and plain ole' XT I found the 2100 sounded much better. Even though the 818 does not have SubEQ I think it will be an excellent sounding AVR/prepro with the inclusion of XT32.

Bill

That makes more sense... I'm currently using a crossover of 60 on my 607. I can't imagine they would take a popular setting away.

Does anyone think the 1000 series coming up from onkyo will have subeqht?

So this has no SUB Eq at all ? , thats why I wanted a amp with XT32 as my room layout for subwofoers is not that great.

So now do I need a antimode ? thats going to be another 200ish, not happy about this.

Thanks for the reply if you could answer.

Stupid F***ing Amazon!!! Got an email with Onkyo TX-NR818 in the title. I thought for sure it was shipped.

It was an email saying I might like this or other receivers to buy, even though I have the 818 on pre-order

And no SubEQ. That really sucks. I was hoping I could sell off my sub EQ. Guess I have to keep it for the delay feature for my 4 subs.

I doubt they will sell at all. I can easliy start my 2 Emo's on the remote by selecting zone 3 on & then hit receiver on & the Onkyo starts as well .

Just spoke to my dealer. he called onkyo uk and they advised it will be 100% at the end of the month. so should have first week of june.

Bit annoyed I will have to spend $300.00 on a antiomode for my subwoofer, but hey, dem da breaks, still seems a good amp

I do hope that is the case, even so this is a really awkward way to list the xover options

Page En-7 shows:

• Crossover Adjustment
  (40/50/60/70/80/90/100/120/150/200 Hz)

Sorry if I'm a little slow here but I thought 32XT sets the crossover for you. For example if like I you had a Def Tech CLR 3000 as your center channel which has it's own sub but none of your other speakers had a sub the 32XT would detect the sub and automatically set the center channel to 40hz and set your other speakers to a higher number.

This will take you to the point in the FAQ in the Audyssey thread that does a great job of explaning how crossovers work with Audyssey.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...tcount=51803#C